Saudi woman, 18, barricades self in Thai hotel to avoid being sent home

[KhunFred]

NEVER knuckle under to the Saudis. Send her ANYWHERE but KSA.

[realenglish1]

Under UN rules you must allow her to claim asylum and respect it 

[jackdd]

5 minutes ago, outsider said:

"Qunun was refused entry on Saturday by Thai immigration officials. Thai authorities deny acting at the request of the Saudi government and say she did not have the correct documents for a visa on arrival."

 

I could be wrong, but if she has a connecting flight to Australia, then there is no need for her to pass through immigration in Thailand, right? And if she doesn't pass through immigration, that means she's 'not in Thailand' and is therefore not subject to Thai laws, no? If the above is true, then she has no need for visa on arrival - in which case, Big Joke and the Thai gits are bullshitting and plainly meddling, potentially at the cost of a human life.

 

Maybe it were two independent flights (so nobody in Kuwait could see that she had a flight booked to Australia). If this is the case she needed to go through immigration (and get a visa before), pick up her bag, check in for the other flight, and through immigration again to board the flight to Australia

[Enoon]

30 minutes ago, Suradit69 said:

If she was refused entry to Thailand and allowed to check-in to the hotel she's been allowed some freedom of movement.

 

I hope she is afforded safe sanctuary somewhere, but the main source of her problems isn't Thai immigrations. If she publicly renounced Islam before she was in a safer situation, that didn't demonstrate a great deal of sense on her part. It just added fuel to the flames.

 

 

 

She is in hotel in transit area.

 

She did not try to enter Thailand.

 

She was prevented from taking her connecting flight by having her passport taken from her.

 

Big Joke (soon to be renamed Big S***bag) is colluding with Saudi by claiming repatriation on the basis of not having requirements to enter Thailand.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-46777848

"Gen Surachate said he was unaware of any passport seizure.

He told AFP the case was a "family problem" and the teenager "had no further documents such as [a] return ticket or money".

 

However, Human Rights Watch Asia deputy director Phil Robertson told the BBC: "It seems that the Thai government is manufacturing a story that she tried to apply for a visa and it was denied... in fact, she had an onward ticket to go to Australia, she didn't want to enter Thailand in the first place."

 

He argued that the Thai authorities had clearly co-operated with Saudi Arabia as Saudi officials were able to meet the plane when it arrived."

 

 

 

 

Edited January 7, 2019 by Enoon

[Camilo Diaz]

I wish her all the best. Strong girl!

[klauskunkel]

Thai authorities have an unparalleled record of selectively misunderstanding and bungling things. So, put on your ineptitude goggles and the "I-don't-know-how-that-happened" expression and help the girl go to the UN in Bangkok. It should be as easy as letting 2 former PMs and a bunch of abbots "escape" from justice. You can always blame a ghost, or a Burmese later on.

Edited January 7, 2019 by klauskunkel

[Orton Rd]

As usual in such cases no outrage from the feminist lobby, anywhere.

[NextStationBangkok]

Rahaf Mohammed al-Qunun should be immediately given asylum in Thailand, as Saudi Arabia is not friendly with Thailand. Friendly countries will not take asylum as Saudi punish them.

 

She was having valid visa to Australia. Most Muslim countries having influence in Saudi will not respond to her voice. US/UK can help, but don't her be like another Koshoggi.

 

Don't let her enter any Saudi consulate in the world. If there there way, people should generously donate her so that she can stay safely in Airport before she is given asylum somewhere.

[NextStationBangkok]

19 minutes ago, realenglish1 said:

Under UN rules you must allow her to claim asylum and respect it 

Thailand is a perfect country for her. Woman are free here, more than any other country in Asia.

[Skeptic7]

Those Saudis...those Muslims...and their ridiculous, misogynist backassward, silly...scary... superstitious stupidity  ????

 

I fear for this girl's life (or welfare) if she is sent back. 

[White Christmas13]

1 hour ago, racket said:

Brave girl, I really hope the international community can stand up. But of course, not if you want to loose business relations with the Saudis...

Does that mean the USA won't help?

[Enoon]

 

"A 20-year-old friend of Qunun, whom the Guardian has chosen not to name and who recently moved from Saudi Arabia to Australia, told the Guardian the threats to her were real. “She’s ex-Muslim and has a very strict family, they’re using violence with her and she faced sexual harassment,” she said. “She received a threat from her cousin – he said he wants to see her blood, he wants to kill her.”

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/06/saudi-woman-held-bangkok-fears-will-be-killed-repatriated

 

 

Edited January 7, 2019 by metisdead
Edited as per fair use policy.

[anon537687643]

Let’s remember the evil, (Christian term ) that Islam spreads when someone wants to renounce its inhumane beliefs !-

 

 

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[Kieran00001]

1 hour ago, onera1961 said:

She does not. But Thai authorities should allow her to go to Australian embassy. This is outrageous. I hope UN human rights Asia director intervenes on her behalf and humanity's behalf. Western countries should also start pressuring Thai government. 

 

Thailand has had a bit of an issue with refugees over the years, Chinese, Myanmarese, Cambodian and Laotian, at least they are not keeping anyone in cages anymore.

[outsider]

25 minutes ago, jackdd said:

Maybe it were two independent flights (so nobody in Kuwait could see that she had a flight booked to Australia). If this is the case she needed to go through immigration (and get a visa before), pick up her bag, check in for the other flight, and through immigration again to board the flight to Australia

Hmm... You're right, it is possible. I was just assuming 'connecting flight' meant she has bought passage to Australia and Thailand was just a stop-over.

[Muhendis]

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

Can't say I blame her, the BBC reports she says she has renounced Islam.

 

That does not go down well in Saudi.

 

If she has a visa for Australia let her go there.

 

Mystified as to why thai immigration stopped her as she was in transit to Australia, again according to the BBC report, and not attempting to enter Thailand, when she landed in Bangkok.

I read the BBC account (Jonathan Head) of this story and it seems the girl had her passport taken from her by Saudi officials whilst in transit. Without that passport there's no way she could travel anywhere. The question is, How did the Saudi officials, if that's who they were, get into the transit area of Suvanabumi. 

[simple1]

18 minutes ago, NextStationBangkok said:

Rahaf Mohammed al-Qunun should be immediately given asylum in Thailand, as Saudi Arabia is not friendly with Thailand. Friendly countries will not take asylum as Saudi punish them.

 

"Thailand is home to an estimated 130,000 refugees, but it is not a party to the 1951 Refugee Convention and has no domestic laws governing refugees. Refugees are considered illegal migrants and are routinely denied fundamental rights including legal status, freedom from detention and deportation, access to safe and lawful employment, and equal protection of the law"

 

The above is often applauded by a number of TVF members.

[ronrat]

Thailand need to see the bigger picture or it cost them money. I assume she is being sponsored to Australia. Let her go there and put a face saving ban on her returning to Thailand.

 

I was on a cruise around the South Pacific in 1983/4 on a Sitmar ship. It was all pretty casual, no going through customs at any of the ports except Sydney. At that stage the the NZ Govet had quite rightly arrested 2 French agents for blowing up the Rainbow Warrior and killing someone.

 

There were a few hundred Kiwis on board the ship and when we were approaching Noumea the ship was informed that any NZ citizen stepping on to French soil would be arrested as spies. So the ship put a Hangi on for the Kiwis while the rest of us spent running amok and spending money,(a drink at a nightclub was something like 15 dollars).

 

Sitmar who were Italian owned were pretty annoyed and cancelled all further visits to French terrorities and made arrangements with other pacific nations who wer also pissed off with nuclear testing. That ban stayed for years. The traders on Noumea who were also in the firing line of those tests would have lost millions.

 

The point is if Thailand decides to allow countries to ride roughshod over accepted transit airport norms some airlines may choose to use Singapore (not KL for obvious reasons) for stopovers and deprive Thailand of business opportunities.

 

[metisdead]

Off topic posts, troll posts and the replies have been removed. 

[Chippy151]

Let's see some humanity from the Thai officials. I wouldn't bet on it though. 

[skippy]

Rahaf Mohammed al-Qunun

 

https://www.gofundme.com/rahaf-mohammed-alqunun

[Denim]

1 hour ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

Death penalty for all apostates.

 

Public beheading and then the dead body is publicly crucified for days after.

Presumably in the name of Allah the compassionate and the merciful.

[Tony125]

1 hour ago, Suradit69 said:

A bit over the top since we really don't know all that's involved or on-going. Repeatedly calling Thai immigrations stupid and brainless or suggesting that Thai immigration officers should go rogue and cease to follow orders isn't likely to lead to a resolution of the situation.

 

Obviously if she's being allowed to remain in the hotel room someone has decided to take some time to see what can be done.  I doubt a woman refusing to leave her room and supposedly barricading herself in would actually mean there would be no way to remove her if they wanted to forcibly put her on a plane bank to Saudi. If she was refused entry to Thailand and allowed to check-in to the hotel she's been allowed some freedom of movement.

 

I hope she is afforded safe sanctuary somewhere, but the main source of her problems isn't Thai immigrations. If she publicly renounced Islam before she was in a safer situation, that didn't demonstrate a great deal of sense on her part. It just added fuel to the flames.

 

 

She publicly announced it from the hotel room ( texts ) as she said she had nothing to lose as she would be killed soon after boarding the plane to Kuwait and wanted the public to know why she was stopped from going to Austrailia and her reasons for wanting to go there. It would be  an honor killing. Her family must kill her as she has renounced Islam which is a death sentence in Sauidi Arabia and if the family did not do it they would be persecuted for not taking control of her.

[Tony125]

This has garnered world attention from many news organizations. The Thai authorities should put her on a plane to AUS  because if she is returned to her family in Saudi Arabia and killed I think Thai tourism will take a big a hit as the sinking of the ferry that killed the Chinese.

[CanuckThai]

1 hour ago, outsider said:

in which case, Big Joke and the Thai gits are bullshitting and plainly meddling, potentially at the cost of a human life.

The Thai government will not only buckle, but will also spin the shit out of it.  Thais working as slave laborers in SA send money home...

Edited January 7, 2019 by CanuckThai

[sawadee1947]

Other sources report that Saudi officials from the embassy ceased the passport together! With Thai immigration. 

Why Saudis got permission to step into international area? 

It's breaking law...... but then, what does law means here? 

Law breaking and bending is daily exercise. 

[Moon6966]

1 hour ago, racket said:

Brave girl, I really hope the international community can stand up. But of course, not if you want to loose business relations with the Saudis...

I think it's not just brave but what other choices has she got? 

Its basically life or death question 

Do anything to not put on plane back cause that means 99.9% death 

[RandolphGB]

Thailand should not get involved. Send her back to Saudi Arabia and let them deal with it under their laws. 

[johnhw]

1 hour ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

They'll definitely do that for you Simon.

 

????

I'll give Simon credit for his attemt, futile or not, while your sick attemt at sarcasm here deserves something else

[evadgib]

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