Should Cardiff pay or not? What do you think?

[ChipButty]

Help us avoid Emiliano Sala payment: Cardiff seek Premier League clubs' advice on escaping £15m transfer fee

 

Cardiff City have contacted other Premier League clubs in an attempt to establish whether there may be grounds to avoid paying the full £15million transfer fee being demanded by Nantes for Emiliano Sala, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

Letters sent in the past few days by lawyers acting for the club request help in ‘fighting off Nantes’ legal claim’, according to one source. They ask clubs for assistance in ‘sharing your knowledge of Sala as a player’.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-6713003/Help-avoid-Emiliano-Sala-payment-Cardiff-seek-Premier-League-clubs-advice.html

[mrbojangles]

IMO they should pay up. If they persist with this they may end up never being able to buy/sell players again. I know I wouldn’t want to do business with them. 

[Crossy]

Leaving aside the fact that we are talking about a human being here.

 

Simplistic view.

 

Consider you have just bought a car on finance, great, you jump in it having just made the down payment and off you go. On the way home you wrap it round a tree, car is no more, but the finance people still want paying.

 

Of course you would expect your car insurance to cough up to pay off the finance.

 

One assumes that Cardiff would insure their "asset" but hadn't gotten around to it (clubs do insure players don't they?).

 

Sorry but they have to pay up, or negotiate a reduced fee.

[mauGR1]

37 minutes ago, Crossy said:

Sorry but they have to pay up, or negotiate a reduced fee.

I think this is what Cardiff is trying to do, the 2 clubs should try to find a reasonable agreement.

[Bredbury Blue]

On the  face of it, without knowing  the inside and outside of the Contract terms and conditions, it looks like Cardiff or their insurance will have  to  pay up. It would have been nice though if the Frenchies had waited a while AFTER his funeral before chasing the money.

[ChipButty]

1 hour ago, Crossy said:

Leaving aside the fact that we are talking about a human being here.

 

Simplistic view.

 

Consider you have just bought a car on finance, great, you jump in it having just made the down payment and off you go. On the way home you wrap it round a tree, car is no more, but the finance people still want paying.

 

Of course you would expect your car insurance to cough up to pay off the finance.

 

One assumes that Cardiff would insure their "asset" but hadn't gotten around to it (clubs do insure players don't they?).

 

Sorry but they have to pay up, or negotiate a reduced fee.

I read the other day that Barcelona took a massive insurance on that player from Ajax who has not joined them yet 

[sanemax]

54 minutes ago, Bredbury Blue said:

On the  face of it, without knowing  the inside and outside of the Contract terms and conditions, it looks like Cardiff or their insurance will have  to  pay up. It would have been nice though if the Frenchies had waited a while AFTER his funeral before chasing the money.

As the pilot wasnt licensed to carry passengers , the insurance may not cover it

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, mauGR1 said:

I think this is what Cardiff is trying to do, the 2 clubs should try to find a reasonable agreement.

No the other club has nothing to do with the accident, just pay.

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, Bredbury Blue said:

On the  face of it, without knowing  the inside and outside of the Contract terms and conditions, it looks like Cardiff or their insurance will have  to  pay up. It would have been nice though if the Frenchies had waited a while AFTER his funeral before chasing the money.

I think it is disgusting from Cardiff to make a big scene and try to screw over Nantes because there was a tragic accident.

[sanemax]

Just now, FritsSikkink said:

I think it is disgusting from Cardiff to make a big scene and try to screw over Nantes because there was a tragic accident.

Although Cardiff are not making a public scene , the letters were private and publicized by the newspaper

[champers]

It is clear to me that this is an insurance issue. The question is: did Cardiff get round to paying for it before the plane crash? 

They must pay Nantes what is due and then recover monies from their insurers, if insured.

The owners must also tell Neil Warnock to say nothing more. I suspect some of what he has said, at a very emotional time, may be used agsinst him. Kudos to him and the CEO for attending the funeral.

[madmen]

41 minutes ago, sanemax said:

As the pilot wasnt licensed to carry passengers , the insurance may not cover it

very good point. He was a private pilot who could carry non paying passengers. I presume he was hired  and payed for his services in which case he needs a commercial licence so of course insurance wont pay.

 

 

[FritsSikkink]

20 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Although Cardiff are not making a public scene , the letters were private and publicized by the newspaper

No way you could keep something like this quiet.

[Jane Dough]

What sort of insurance do the clubs have for any of their players? 

 

Rooster

[mrbojangles]

Quote

Cardiff have been ordered by FIFA to pay £5.3m to Nantes for the transfer of Emiliano Sala.

 

The sum corresponds to the first instalment that Cardiff were due to pay the Ligue 1 club, as per their deal for the transfer of Sala agreed on January 19.

 

"The FIFA Players' Status Committee, which never lost sight of the specific and unique circumstances of this tragic situation during its deliberations on the dispute at stake, refrained from imposing procedural costs on the parties," a FIFA statement read.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11704/11823849/cardiff-must-pay-nantes-5-3m-for-emiliano-sala-says-fifa