Mystery foreigner found hanged from tree on Pratumnak Hill

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Mystery foreigner found hanged from tree on Pratumnak Hill

 

Picture: Pattaya Update News

 

Pattaya police were called yesterday evening after a local man found an unidentified foreigner hanged from a tree in a vacant lot on Pratumnak Hill. 

 

Forensics officers and Sawang Boriboon rescue foundation joined the cops at the waste ground which is surrounded by barbed wire on Soi 6. 

 

There they found a white male aged 40-45 said Rak Siam News. (Pattaya Update News put his age as 35 - 40 and additionally said his height was 180 - 185 cms). 

 

The man was attached to a five meter high branch by a three meter long green cord around his neck. The man was found on his knees. 

 

He had a small blood injury to his right thigh believed to have been cause by coming into contact with the branch.

 

There were no signs of a struggle or other injuries and he was thought to have been dead for two days.

 

There was no ID on the body that was clothed in black and white clothing, white shoes and a black cap.

 

Police said it looks like suicide - the body has been sent for autopsy.

 

The body was found by a member of the public who went in the lot to relieve himself and noticed a foul odor. 

 

Source: Rak Siam News | Pattaya Update News

 

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[LomSak27]

Must be murde ..............uh er, ...................    suicide

 

Can only be suicide. Nothing to see here folks

[sammieuk1]

Must be suicide he was found on his knees ????

[steven100]

where was his mobile ?  did he have a thai gf .... to open to draw any conclusion .... smells fishy.

[darksidedog]

I really wish the cops would do at least some primary investigations before drawing their suicide conclusions. I mean has the idea ever crossed their heads that it might be a murder, set up to look like suicide? Having said that, their powers of deduction are not that bright, so they probably couldn't work anything complicated out anyway.

[MARK74]

7 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

I really wish the cops would do at least some primary investigations before drawing their suicide conclusions. I mean has the idea ever crossed their heads that it might be a murder, set up to look like suicide? Having said that, their powers of deduction are not that bright, so they probably couldn't work anything complicated out anyway.

but they didn't conclude anything. they said it looks like suicide which it certainly does. the body has been sent to autopsy which is part of an investigation into the death. they will investigate further to find out who he is no doubt. it might end there or they may uncover some suspicious circumstances. but the reality is the guy probably topped himself. 

[Kadilo]

Another opportunity for people to tell us how the Police call everything suicide before investigating. Yippee


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[Peterw42]

29 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

I really wish the cops would do at least some primary investigations before drawing their suicide conclusions. I mean has the idea ever crossed their heads that it might be a murder, set up to look like suicide? Having said that, their powers of deduction are not that bright, so they probably couldn't work anything complicated out anyway.

"Looks like suicide" is an initial observation not the final conclusion to the investigation, as the story says the body is being sent for an autopsy, ie: the investigation is ongoing.

[madmen]

Fair observation by cops. It "looks" like suicide. I would have closed the case right there only because it's Pattaya and so predictable usually the same 3 triggers, bar girl, alcoholic running out of money

Next!

[mikebell]

What kind of troubled mind commits suicide at the age of 40?

[seahorse]

23 minutes ago, mikebell said:

What kind of troubled mind commits suicide at the age of 40?

A very troubled mind. 

[tabarin]

My feeling says it is murder with attempt to be hidden away.

[MARK74]

29 minutes ago, mikebell said:

What kind of troubled mind commits suicide at the age of 40?

it's really sad but it is most likely he had history of depression or mental illness and perhaps drug and alcohol abuse. take keith flint for example. he was lined up to play glastonbury this year, had a hit album at the end of last year. went on a local 10k run a few day ago and just killed himself. everyone said he seemed happy. but, he did have a history of depression, had split from his mrs and was in the process of selling the farmhouse he loved and reports say he had started abusing drugs again. seems those that close to him have mixed feelings of both sadness and anger. it happens too often and there is nearly always a way out if they reach out for help but depression is often a lonely condition which one suffers inwardly and ultimately can lead some to take their own lives.

Not saying this bloke suffered from depression but a significant number of people who commit suicide have histories of depression rather than just some bad news in their lives

[Henrik Andersen]

44 minutes ago, mikebell said:

What kind of troubled mind commits suicide at the age of 40?

Money problems perhaps 

But let it be up to all Sherlock Holmes in here to find out what really happened 

[Hummin]

14 minutes ago, MARK74 said:

it's really sad but it is most likely he had history of depression or mental illness and perhaps drug and alcohol abuse. take keith flint for example. he was lined up to play glastonbury this year, had a hit album at the end of last year. went on a local 10k run a few day ago and just killed himself. everyone said he seemed happy. but, he did have a history of depression, had split from his mrs and was in the process of selling the farmhouse he loved and reports say he had started abusing drugs again. seems those that close to him have mixed feelings of both sadness and anger. it happens too often and there is nearly always a way out if they reach out for help but depression is often a lonely condition which one suffers inwardly and ultimately can lead some to take their own lives.

Not saying this bloke suffered from depression but a significant number of people who commit suicide have histories of depression rather than just some bad news in their lives

You made this up, or you have a source? 

[Briggsy]

Just now, Hummin said:

You made this up, or you have a source? 

You may have misread the post from @MARK74 He is using the example of the artist Keith Flint's suicide to show how depression can strike quickly leading to suicide. He is not saying Keith Flint hanged himself on Pratumnak Hill.

[impulse]

1 hour ago, MARK74 said:

1 hour ago, darksidedog said:

I really wish the cops would do at least some primary investigations before drawing their suicide conclusions. I mean has the idea ever crossed their heads that it might be a murder, set up to look like suicide? Having said that, their powers of deduction are not that bright, so they probably couldn't work anything complicated out anyway.

but they didn't conclude anything. they said it looks like suicide which it certainly does. the body has been sent to autopsy which is part of an investigation into the death. they will investigate further to find out who he is no doubt. it might end there or they may uncover some suspicious circumstances. but the reality is the guy probably topped himself. 

 

The problems is that there is now face attached to the initial declaration that it looks like suicide.  And we all know how much Asians enjoy admitting they were wrong, and losing face in the process.

 

[steven100]

38 minutes ago, seahorse said:

A very troubled mind. 

one that has a thai gf, has spent lots of money and she is leaving ....  imo

[KittenKong]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

The man was attached to a five meter high branch by a three meter long green cord around his neck. The man was found on his knees. 

Perhaps someone can explain to me how those numbers can possibly add up? Unless of course the guy was about 2.5 metres tall.

[CMNightRider]

2 hours ago, darksidedog said:

I really wish the cops would do at least some primary investigations before drawing their suicide conclusions. I mean has the idea ever crossed their heads that it might be a murder, set up to look like suicide? Having said that, their powers of deduction are not that bright, so they probably couldn't work anything complicated out anyway.

Thai police are woefully unprepared to conduct an investigation of any type.  About a year or two ago the Junta leader publicly suggested his police commanders start watching the American Television series CSI, so they would know how to properly process a crime scene.  You just can't make stuff like this up.   

[Vacuum]

1 hour ago, mikebell said:

What kind of troubled mind commits suicide at the age of 40?

Post#9.

[ChipButty]

2 hours ago, Kadilo said:

Another opportunity for people to tell us how the Police call everything suicide before investigating. Yippee


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Suicide is only 10cm of paper work, Murder 30cm simple!

[Hummin]

40 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

You may have misread the post from @MARK74 He is using the example of the artist Keith Flint's suicide to show how depression can strike quickly leading to suicide. He is not saying Keith Flint hanged himself on Pratumnak Hill.

I just learned about Keith´s suicide. I believe more and more expats do struggle with their mind down here, when they do not find what they are searching. And of course on top of that ending up in a bad economic situation. 

 

 

[balo]

Pratumnak is very popular among the Russians. I would start there.

[CGW]

4 hours ago, tabarin said:

My feeling says it is murder with attempt to be hidden away.

Don't quit the day job! ????

[GreenerGrass]

5 hours ago, darksidedog said:

I really wish the cops would do at least some primary investigations before drawing their suicide conclusions. I mean has the idea ever crossed their heads that it might be a murder, set up to look like suicide? Having said that, their powers of deduction are not that bright, so they probably couldn't work anything complicated 

Upset the wrong people in that place, you could end up being strangled, followed by being hung up on a tree. Case closed, if it is indeed suicide what a dark way to go!

[Mavrix]

5 hours ago, mikebell said:

What kind of troubled mind commits suicide at the age of 40?

No money....no family back in his home country....probably suffers from depression.

[ParadiseLost]

From experience, turning 50 can be quite scary too...

[Tongjaw]

7 hours ago, mikebell said:

What kind of troubled mind commits suicide at the age of 40?

Depression like cancer does not discriminate between age or sex. It’s a vile unseen disease which has taken many lives male, female, young and old.  

If in fact it was suicide I hope he did not suffer and is at peace now. 

[Farangwithaplan]

6 hours ago, KittenKong said:

Perhaps someone can explain to me how those numbers can possibly add up? Unless of course the guy was about 2.5 metres tall.

One simple response is to say that the branch broke. nowhere in the type you quoted does it say the branch is still connected to the tree.

 

Let's not forget a lot of local reporting in english may not have been tracked by native speaking english staff throughout. A loss in translation needs to be accounted for.

 

I am often baffled why so many people in life try to find alternative motives when Occam's Razor fits neatly.

 

I hope the person who was found has finally found peace. I just couldn't image how it could ever get to that point with the exception of having painful terminal illness or similar. 40 years old is not too late to start from nothing. It will take hard work, but it can be done.

 

If it is mental illness, it is sad they had no one to reach out to for help. Unfortunately on occasions I drop into pubs or whatever and have a chin wag when away on weekend trips, I all too often fall into a chat or conversations with so many westerners who reveal they seem either addicted to something, someone, or filled with resentment of their home country or Thailand or whatever.

 

If one feels that way, I would have thought most western countries are better equipped to deal with that mental anguish rather than a place like Thailand where cheap booze, women and drugs are so accessible.