Why do TVF Expats so dislike other expats?

[4MyEgo]

19 hours ago, BritManToo said:

As my gf always says, buying a woman a drink in a bar is the start of negotiations for buying the woman for the night.

I dare believe what your wife is trying to say is, with respect, she is worried that you might end up with that women for the night if you buy her a drink.

 

My wife is ok with me buying a woman at a bar a drink or two, if she wasn't I wouldn't be with her, and if I negotiate to have her for the night or not, is up to me, although it's short-time 100% of the time if I negotiate to take the woman for the night, so buying the woman a drink is not necessarily opening negotiations for the night. I have bought women drinks to pass the time, i.e. not in the mood for a cardio workout, just a chat, some pool, some fun and they appreciate it.

 

If drinking at a particular place that I was always drinking at when I visit Phuket, I would bar the guy behind the bar a drink too, does that mean I am opening negotiations to have him for the night, I think not.

 

Too much is accepted on the insecurity some, or a lot of women have, i.e. they control their husbands, and their husbands allowing their wives/gf to control them, personally I wouldn't be with such a creature, and I am not referring to your wife, just speaking out aloud. If a bloke wants to buy a girl a drink in a bar, what's the problem, and if he wants to buy her time, what's the problem, do women not realise that a man can leave his woman at any given time, or go with another woman at any given time, what then, will his wife or g/f put superglue in his KY gel ?

[Odysseus123]

5 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

I dare believe what your wife is trying to say is, with respect, she is worried that you might end up with that women for the night if you buy her a drink.

 

My wife is ok with me buying a woman at a bar a drink or two, if she wasn't I wouldn't be with her, and if I negotiate to have her for the night or not, is up to me, although it's short-time 100% of the time if I negotiate to take the woman for the night, so buying the woman a drink is not necessarily opening negotiations for the night. I have bought women drinks to pass the time, i.e. not in the mood for a cardio workout, just a chat, some pool, some fun and they appreciate it.

 

If drinking at a particular place that I was always drinking at when I visit Phuket, I would bar the guy behind the bar a drink too, does that mean I am opening negotiations to have him for the night, I think not.

 

Too much is accepted on the insecurity some, or a lot of women have, i.e. they control their husbands, and their husbands allowing their wives/gf to control them, personally I wouldn't be with such a creature, and I am not referring to your wife, just speaking out aloud. If a bloke wants to buy a girl a drink in a bar, what's the problem, and if he wants to buy her time, what's the problem, do women not realise that a man can leave his woman at any given time, or go with another woman at any given time, what then, will his wife or g/f put superglue in his KY gel ?

I don't believe you.

 

Your wife would cut your cojones off..

 

Stop peddling fantasy..the only "legal tender" which is seemingly allowed on ThaiVisa to dopey Western males.

Edited March 11, 2019 by Odysseus123

[Spidey]

3 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

I don't believe you.

 

Your wife would cut your cojones off..

 

Stop peddling fantasy..the only "legal tender" which is seemingly allowed on ThaiVisa to dopey Western males.

My experience is exactly the same as the poster you replied to. I'm not dopey and still have my cojones.....for now!

[gamb00ler]

19 hours ago, marcusarelus said:

But what really makes me different?  I don't like farmers.  One of my exwives in America was a farmers daughter and her large family all farmers.  Deadly boring, uneducated illiterate bumpkins.  I don't like the culture or housing or morals.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience with a farming family.  But please don't generalize to the entire farming community.

 

I grew up in a community of small family farmers.  They were generally some of the most genuine people I ever met with no subterfuge.  They were happy to share and glad to help as best they could.  If someone violated the unspoken social contract they would find themselves unofficially and quietly ostracized with no confrontation.

 

I definitely would consider them boring now but that is only because of lack of desire or opportunity to broaden their horizons.

 

My Thai wife's parents, aunts and uncles were also all farmers. Only a couple of that generation are still living.  I see little difference from that generation to that of my parents.

 

Both I and my wife had so much more opportunity than our parents mainly because of that generations determination, dedication and generosity to ensure a better life for their children.

 

Please judge those farmers more on their intentions than on their social skills or status.

Edited March 11, 2019 by gamb00ler

[Sakeopete]

20 hours ago, Spidey said:

You get it even more if you declare that you live in Pattaya. If you are British and live in Pattaya, you must be the scum of the earth.

 

I am in a similar situation to you with a wife, son and nice house, yet I still get labelled in the way you describe.

 

Primarily, the vitriol is from people who are unhappy with their own lives, for one reason or another, and take their frustrations out on their keyboards within the safety of the forum's anonymity. They use it to elevate their low self esteem by pretending to be holier than thou, superior to others. I guarantee that if you met them personally, they would be meek and mild and not say anything to your face, such as they do on this forum.

 

If you met them, you, being a normal reasonable person and happy with your life, would pity them. The internet is full of sad little puppies such as you describe.

Freudian Sour Grapes 

[NoshowJones]

19 hours ago, marcusarelus said:

Right on.  Whatever the lady wants to drink in her lady drink is her business.  The guy was a typical jerk wanting to get the woman drunk in hopes of getting a free something or other. 

If the guy got the woman drunk, it would not be free, think of the cost of the drink, and no guarantee of getting it off for free.

[gamb00ler]

19 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

You do need to trade them in when they wear out. I told my xgf that when she has her 24th birthday this month, she will have finally aged out for me after 5 years. Time for a new one.

I think you could have been a little more generous in terms of notice given.

[4MyEgo]

20 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

I don't believe you.

I didn't ask you to believe me, I live my life how I want, not how other want me too or believe how it should be lived.

 

The only fantasy here is yours !

[Odysseus123]

30 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Being boozers, they probably forgot which day his funeral was. Too much alcohol destroys brain cells.

He was a Phantom pilot and told me that when they took off from Ubon Ratchathani they used to sing..

 

"Moon River wider than a mile."

 

RIP my gallant American friend..

Here is the Mun River..

 

 

[Nyezhov]

5 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

I think you could have been a little more generous in terms of notice given.

Im not a nice person according to her, my Mom and My kid.

[seasia]

3 hours ago, jesimps said:

I agree with the OP, especially the last para. All you have to do is wait for the anti-farang replies from the usual suspects. Their names crop up repeatedly, especially in threads concerning the new immigration rules, slagging off their fellow foreigners and praising the Thais to high heaven. I could post several culprits on here, but I won't because it's so obvious who they are. I don't pretend to know what's wrong with these people, but they definitely have a personality disorder and are bucking the natural way of things.

I agree with you 100%. I also agree with the OP.

 

I have met loads of expats/long stayers/winter snowbirds.
Majority by far  have been OK, a handful have become friends.

Fairly large mix of nationalities, mostly European.

Edited March 11, 2019 by seasia

[Odysseus123]

10 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

I didn't ask you to believe me, I live my life how I want, not how other want me too or believe how it should be lived.

 

The only fantasy here is yours !

Sure..buddy..

 

It's kinda like soft porn aint it?

 

You can add a few other addled soft porn peddlers on this forum,cant't you?

 

Your post was pure nonsense.

 

I used to listen to obese 70 year olds (Scandinavians,Germans and Australians peddle this boozy crap...

 

Which is why I avoided the ugly,obese,brain dead fantasists..

 

Oh..and with the honourable exception of Britman2 (forced into it) not a single one of you have ever posted a photo of Thailand here on this forum.

Edited March 11, 2019 by Odysseus123

[sharktooth]

1 hour ago, ianezy0 said:

At this stage of the thread, I feel like I have walked into an old western style saloon after a gunfight, all the tables have overturned and blood is mixed with the sawdust on the floor.

Settle down and have a watered down whiskey on me!

Bit of a myth really. Most of them couldn’t afford guns, or bullets for that matter. Kick the sh1t3 of each other and a few stabbings, but gun fights were rare. Must be bored, burd with huge knockers is still in the shower.

[Spidey]

13 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

Sure..buddy..

 

It's kinda like soft porn aint it?

 

You can add a few other addled soft porn peddlers on this forum,cant't you?

 

Your post was pure nonsense.

 

I used to listen to obese 70 year olds (Scandinavians,Germans and Australians peddle this boozy crap...

 

Which is why I avoided the ugly,obese,brain dead fantasists..

 

Oh..and with the honourable exception of Britman2 (forced into it) not a single one of you have ever posted a photo here on this forum.

I would be happy to post a photo of myself on this forum but I have learned that it's not a wise thing to do.

 

I'll PM you one.

 

Feel free to comment but not publish on an open forum.

Edited March 11, 2019 by Spidey

[4MyEgo]

6 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

Sure..buddy..

 

It's kinda like soft porn aint it?

 

You can add a few other addled soft porn peddlers on this forum,cant't you?

 

Your post was pure nonsense.

 

I used to listen to obese 70 year olds (Scandinavians,Germans and Australians peddle this boozy crap...

 

Which is why I avoided the ugly,obese,brain dead fantasists..

 

Oh..and with the honourable exception of Britman2 (forced into it) not a single one of you have ever posted a photo of Thailand here on this forum.

You know trying to convince others how one lives his real life, is like trying to take the blinkers off a horse, best you keep them on and keep on the straight and narrow.

[blazes]

17 hours ago, champers said:

Or someone else's Missus. More fun with forbidden fruit.

If your own missis is the bee's knees, as good as it gets, the best you will ever get, you don't want even to think about this.

If you're caught, your life is over (not to mention  the possibility that the "other" husband might come calling.)

[CharlieH]

Post and responses removed.

 

Please do not discuss specifics of prostitution (prices etc). 

[Lacessit]

48 minutes ago, Spidey said:

 

BTW. I hope that it doesn't hurt your feelings when I tell you.....I'm a Brit.

No one is perfect.

[GalaxyMan]

20 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Most of the ones I've met appear to be mentally ill, or desperate and trying to steal/borrow money off me.

PS.

I'm a drunk, take drugs, hire hookers, but am fully financed, best off not mixing with the likes of me.

Water seeks its own level...

[CharlieH]

Post removed. Rule 11.

[scorecard]

53 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

I'm sorry you had a bad experience with a farming family.  But please don't generalize to the entire farming community.

 

I grew up in a community of small family farmers.  They were generally some of the most genuine people I ever met with no subterfuge.  They were happy to share and glad to help as best they could.  If someone violated the unspoken social contract they would find themselves unofficially and quietly ostracized with no confrontation.

 

I definitely would consider them boring now but that is only because of lack of desire or opportunity to broaden their horizons.

 

My Thai wife's parents, aunts and uncles were also all farmers. Only a couple of that generation are still living.  I see little difference from that generation to that of my parents.

 

Both I and my wife had so much more opportunity than our parents mainly because of that generations determination, dedication and generosity to ensure a better life for their children.

 

Please judge those farmers more on their intentions than on their social skills or status.

 

Here's another take on farmers.

 

My Thai son (he looks very Thai) has had a good education in Thailand and in Singapore, his Thai mother (Dr. of medicine) and myself deliberately pulled him into broader worldly discussions from an early age, but never too serious. 

 

 

He met a girl at Thai uni, she's a sweetheart, from an uncountry old style farming family in a remote mid Northern area.

 

At first her family didn't accept my son because he knew nothing about farming and in their view he therefore knew nothing at all. That was 15 years ago. And at first there was some roadblock because his father is a farang.

 

The first few times they came to our house they were very uncomfortable to come into the house and sat on the floor. So I quickly got some cushions for them and me to sit on and I sat with them on the floor. 

 

Today son's MIL and FIL and 1 SIL listen to my son when he carefully explains broader subjects, in fact many times they have asked they ask him to explain some things, and son makes sure they feel comfortable and he makes sure he gives reasons for his arguments.

 

A simple example, when son's first baby was born his MIL came all prepared to take the baby home. Son and his wife said 'NO, our child is our responsibility 24 hours a day for her whole upbringing and more'. They used arguments about responsibility, the benefits of daily family discussions at the dinner table, planning and executing good education and daily monitoring homework completion, learning from mum and dad about right and wrong and more - parents absolute responsibility.

 

Slowly MIL and FIL and the 1 older SIL realized that son and wife had valid points and they now support these points, and son's oldest daughter (14) is teaching her 78 yo grandmother to use the internet and teaching her some basic English.

 

Grandmother speaks to me in Thai and she's now embraced a bigger world, if we go to the supermarket together she disappears to get a french stick and a bag of mixed salad and more. FIL has learned to use the small fresh coffee steam coffee maker at our home and is always quick to make me a coffee in the morning.

 

But not all the family have embraced some new ideas, there's still an old SIL and BIL in law who can't / don't want to see anything past / outside of old style farming. 

 

 

 

Edited March 11, 2019 by scorecard

[Odysseus123]

31 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

You know trying to convince others how one lives his real life, is like trying to take the blinkers off a horse, best you keep them on and keep on the straight and narrow.

Ha..ha..ha..and no photo either...

 

'You ladies of lubricity

who dwell in fine bordello.."

 

(British sailor's song-1800.)

[losworld]

Westerners are being socially engineered for self destruction.  Prime examples here are self hate, guilt complexes, anti family, anti woman, pro feminism, pro abortion, anti woman, anti man, gender confusion, etc.  Funny thing is very few can see how they are being manipulated to hate their own.  In fact I even read a comment on here by a caucasian guy saying white people are the cause of all evil and should basically be eliminated lol.  Ignorance aplenty.  The key to a happy world is to unite as one not fall prey to divide and conquer.  Cultures and people can exist harmoniously without hate but this makes it much more difficult for the elite of the world to rule.

Edited March 11, 2019 by losworld

[Destiny1990]

What makes u think that the Tvf members are expats?

Most of the posters aren’t even living  in Thailand and those who are in Thailand are simply long term staying tourists just living alone or staying with some bar girl..

[gamb00ler]

I remember the following quote from a roommate in a previous life.

 

"Some folks need an eyerectumy to remove the connection between their anus and their eye that gives them such a sh*tty outlook on life."

 

Thanks, Phil.

Edited March 11, 2019 by gamb00ler

[Nanaplaza666]

21 hours ago, sanemax said:

They usually have two identical bottles side by side , one with alcohol and the other with water , the "jerk" was probably right about getting ripped off

Thai whiskey doesn't even look like water ,so your comment makes no sense .you just complain for the complaining ,you are clearly on of the people the OP means. negative all day shouldn't even be writing or reading here, but clearly have nothing else to do whole day . Pitty 

[BritManToo]

28 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

 ......... are simply long term staying tourists just living alone or staying with some bar girl..

Who else would we be?

How are you different?

Edited March 11, 2019 by BritManToo

[Psimbo]

"I have been a member of TVF for several years now, and I am still a bit shocked at the low opinion that TVF members have of other TVF members in particular and other Thai expats in general."

 

Personally I would flip that around 180 degrees. ????

 

My vision of a typical TV serial poster is of a baldy tattooed older bloke who has nothing better to do in his adopted country then beatch about it all the time. Opinions are normally based on twenty years ago and any subject such as 'Red Bull Boy' or changes to the Retirement Permit system requires at least 30 separate threads of 'knowledge, angst, chest beating and opinion' on issues that to be quite honest do not affect them either directly or indirectly. ???? 

 

Edit: 21 pages of comment above already sort of proves my theory. ????

Edited March 11, 2019 by Psimbo

[Kerryd]

2 minutes ago, Psimbo said:

Edit: 21 pages of comment above already sort of proves my theory. ????

The rate (and number) of posts should start dropping as most of the local watering holes have opened by now and all those old, balding, tattooed TVF members have to scramble to get to their preferred bar before some other expat (or worse, some "foreigner") steals "their" favourite stool !

 

[tweedledee2]

20 hours ago, Leaver said:

There's a lot more than 100,000 foreigners living in Thailand.

 

This is an old wiki, but in 2010, there was 2.5 million foreigners living in Thailand, and I am sure that doesn't take into account the hundreds of thousands living here on tourist visas. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Thailand

 

There are a lot more farangs in Muaeng Surin than when I arrived 5 years ago.  When I first came here I maybe would see only 1-2 farangs every couple of shopping trips at Big C. Now I see at least 5-6 every time I'm there and many new faces. When my wife and I moved into our rural home 12 km NE of Surin in 2014, I was the only farang in the area. Now there are at least 3 that I know of within a 2 km radius.