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Woman hurt in Bang Saray road wreck

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Bang Saray:--A 20-year-old woman was knocked unconscious when her motorbike was hit by an SUV in Bang Saray.

 

The unidentified victim was transported to Queen Sirikit Naval Medical Center.

 

Sitthiporn Subpreecha, driver of the Isuzu Highlander, said he was approaching Chuetong Village when the victim darted across lanes on Sukhumvit Road to make a U-turn. He was unable to stop in time.

 

-- PATTAYA MAIL 2019-04-06--

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The most remarkable thing about the picture is it has been raining, been a long time since I witnessed such an event ???? 

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1 hour ago, sammieuk1 said:

Being unable to stop is a national pastime perfected over generations ???? 

 

So is motorcycles darting out without looking and getting collected by the oncoming vehicle they failed to see.... 

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1 hour ago, Kim J said:

Maybe the motorbike was at fault? Who can tell?

But looking at the damage to the car, was it traveling at a sensible speed commensurate with the wet conditions? I would say with some confidence, no it wasn't.

 

I'm not sure... the vehicles are designed to crumple to limit the degree of impact... this could be why she wasn't killed..... The damage to the Pickup doesn't look as if excessive speed was involved... Plus the pickup is stopped about 20m past the fallen motorcycle - thats a pretty decent stopping distance, especially in the wet. 

 

As often as speeding is the obvious cause of failure of a vehicle to slow and respond in time to an 'event' unfolding in front of them, this time it looks (to me anyway) as if there was not much the pickup could have done to avoid the incident. 

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34 minutes ago, LoS itaint said:

If the victim was, as stated, unidentified how can it be reported that it is a woman & of 20 years of age?

 

Witnesses....  a woman who looks about 20yrs old. 

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12 hours ago, LoS itaint said:

If the victim was, as stated, unidentified how can it be reported that it is a woman & of 20 years of age?

guesses again....unless they looked at ID card ....

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Happens all the time, fortunately not with the same result.  They built a "mini mall" anchored by a 7-11 right outside of a housing estate and patrons or residents are always going against traffic to get North on Sukumvit via the wide U-turn located there

 

Always slow down since you know it is going to happen

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19 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Being unable to stop is a national pastime perfected over generations ???? 

 

 

root cause; being unable to think

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When it rains where I live I can count to 10 and hear the sirens start...

it doesn't take long for the accidents to start..

nothing changes not even the driving habits come rain or shine !

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come on, those of us who drive here know scooter riders never look thats a fact, i had 3 today on a 2 mile journey, its just a matter of time and statistics before it goes pear shaped for the rider.

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talking of rain, took the bus from Pats to BKK last Tuesday, when that huge storm hit , ok the bus did slow, but all vehicles were racing past us, just creating one huge bow wave, i bet the tyres were hardly contacting the surface.

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Just now, mercman24 said:

talking of rain, took the bus from Pats to BKK last Tuesday, when that huge storm hit , ok the bus did slow, but all vehicles were racing past us, just creating one huge bow wave, i bet the tyres were hardly contacting the surface.

I fail to realize what makes them drive so dangerously and irresponsibly?  Is it pent up aggression and frustration? Is it yabba or alcohol?  Is it a feeling of power on the road?  Is it a "let Buddha take care" attitude?  Is it a belief reincarnation will bring them back better?  It baffles me as it is beyond stupid. 

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On 4/6/2019 at 1:38 PM, LoS itaint said:

If the victim was, as stated, unidentified how can it be reported that it is a woman & of 20 years of age?

If we really put our brains together we may assume it appears from her ID ... :thumbsup:

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23 hours ago, mercman24 said:

talking of rain, took the bus from Pats to BKK last Tuesday, when that huge storm hit , ok the bus did slow, but all vehicles were racing past us, just creating one huge bow wave, i bet the tyres were hardly contacting the surface.

they dont know what "AQUAPLAINING " IS in this place !!

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Regardless of who's at fault...  One more data point. 

 

A 2 wheeler and a 4 wheeler involved in the same accident.  The driver of the 4 wheeler walked away without injury.  The 2 wheeler's driver?  Not so fortunate.

 

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On 4/7/2019 at 11:28 AM, tlandtday said:

I fail to realize what makes them drive so dangerously and irresponsibly?  Is it pent up aggression and frustration? Is it yabba or alcohol?  Is it a feeling of power on the road?  Is it a "let Buddha take care" attitude?  Is it a belief reincarnation will bring them back better?  It baffles me as it is beyond stupid. 

 

I think the answer is you are searching for is far simpler...

 

... its pure and simple lack of concept of consequence...  For many on Thailands roads the driving bahiour is acted out without the degree of conciousness we’d associate with driving in the west...  Perhaps much in the same way we walk down the road to the letter box to post a letter, the most thought we give it is staying on the pavement and looking both ways when crossing the road.... 

 

In Thailand people simply get in a car and drive without giving it any second thought... we also do that in other countries, however, through education and training there are aspects of road safety that have been instilled in us.... I’m not going to suggest we are perfect by any means, but by habit, we are inherently much safer than the average driver in Thailand through simple function of education and the training to teach us the awareness of our consequences... any Thai would be at the same level had they also been educated and trained to drive in the West. 

 

The issue isn’t with Thai’s - its with the system Thailand accepts that places a majority of uneducated drivers on the road (*uneducated meaning not educated in driving and road safety(

 

 

 

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19 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I think the answer is you are searching for is far simpler...

 

... its pure and simple lack of concept of consequence...  For many on Thailands roads the driving bahiour is acted out without the degree of conciousness we’d associate with driving in the west...  Perhaps much in the same way we walk down the road to the letter box to post a letter, the most thought we give it is staying on the pavement and looking both ways when crossing the road.... 

 

In Thailand people simply get in a car and drive without giving it any second thought... we also do that in other countries, however, through education and training there are aspects of road safety that have been instilled in us...

 

It's education and training, sure.  But more than that, it's enforcement.  When I started driving, I was a hazard for a while.  But I was so afraid of getting a ticket, paying fines I couldn't afford, paying higher insurance rates, and possibly losing my license that I focused on driving to avoid tickets.  Not coincidentally, that's good practice for avoiding accidents.

 

The problem in Thailand is that accidents are rare enough that they don't affect behavior until it's too late.   Having cops with chase cars, radar, and radios makes the negative consequences of crappy driving a relative certainty- before anyone is killed.

 

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On 4/6/2019 at 7:12 PM, richard_smith237 said:

 

I'm not sure... the vehicles are designed to crumple to limit the degree of impact... this could be why she wasn't killed..... The damage to the Pickup doesn't look as if excessive speed was involved... Plus the pickup is stopped about 20m past the fallen motorcycle - thats a pretty decent stopping distance, especially in the wet. 

 

As often as speeding is the obvious cause of failure of a vehicle to slow and respond in time to an 'event' unfolding in front of them, this time it looks (to me anyway) as if there was not much the pickup could have done to avoid the incident. 

Stopping and Braking Distance

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after thought Uk highway code stopping and thinking distances

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