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25 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

The OP has a point. If all the Western customs and mores were to take hold here, I'd have to move somewhere else.

If that ever happened, God forbid, I would probably buy some land!

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1 hour ago, jackdd said:

Just move to Laos, // and they also don't have a law prohibiting smoking at beaches.

They don't need such law; they have no sea, so no beaches :cool:

 

Edit: Oops, Moonlover posted similar post just 2 minutes before me :wink:

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2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

To be serious for a moment I think trying to change some things is alright, with other things not so much.

I.e. it's tradition that sin sod is paid. It does not matter if we like it or not. That won't change anytime soon.

 

But then there are practical things like i.e. trying to introduce preventive maintenance. Or removing the trash from the garden, or maybe stopping at all red lights, even for pedestrians. I think these are the things we can do and maybe some Thais will discover after a while that these ideas are really not so bad.

 

But then again when we see how many farangs present "us", running around without shirt and a bottle of beer in one hand and a hooker in the other hand it's not surprising that many Thais don't really see us as role models...

Nothing we say or think will change anything - it's up to the Thais as to when things change.

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21 minutes ago, Don Chance said:

Western countries have become anti-nationalist. So western people come to Thailand with the same attitude. Most Thai's are nationalist however...hence the problem.

Both Brexit and Trump's wall give lie to your statement.

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When it is obvious that the goals

cannot be reached, don't adjust the

goals, adjust the action steps.

                      Confucius

 

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1 hour ago, fishtank said:

How about the Thai driving standards?

Should we not criticise those either?

I find driving here much more pleasurable than back in the nanny state where you are constantly distracted looking at your speedo because if you do 4kms over you will either get pulled over by  a rotten copper or a speed camera will get you. 

 

It is ridiculous. Pure revenue raising. 

 

I travel the pattaya motorway often. There is one of the best stretches of road there outbound from Pattaya starting about 500 meters from the regents School overpass.

 

Four lanes, excellent surface slightly downhill. Flattens out for a bit and then downhill again for a bit. Closest bit of road I have found to the Nurburgring. When it is clear I can absolutely fang it down there and actually get to use my v8 power going over well over 200 Kmh. It is about 5kms of pure driving pleasure.

If I did that in the nanny state they would impound my car. There are always highway patrol on that motorway but they never pull me over, they only pull over trucks with dodgy looking loads.

 

Rules in Thailand are pretty much only suggestions. People disregard the stupid helmet rules. Sometimes you should wear a helmet, but if you are just popping up to the shops, why make yourself all sweaty for no other reason other than “ you must obey the law”.

In the nanny state you have to wear a silly helmet now on a bloody pushbike. Soft as. As kids we all rode are BMXs on the roads, over jumps and none of us died. And now they are developing helmets for people in cars to wear.

 

I hear a lot of expats moaning and whining when people on motorbikes drive on the wrong side of the road for short trips. Often because it is more practical and safer than crossing a busy road and doing two u-turns to get to where you are going. It is no big deal when done safely. The Thais all do it, so know to keep a look out for this.

 

Instead of complaining about it, I embrace the freedom.

 

 

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1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Some even try to grab your private parts. Disgusting!

The regular squirrel grips from the ladies I get walking about town is a highlight of living in Thailand for me.

Not so keen when the ladyboys do it. But you gotta go with the flow.

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50 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

I like the Western tradition to stop and help when someone causes an accident.

April 26, 2018)- More than one hit-and-run crash occurs every minute on U.S. roads, according to new research from the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety. These resulted in 2,049 deaths in 2016 – the highest number on record and a 60 percent increase since 2009.

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2 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

April 26, 2018)- More than one hit-and-run crash occurs every minute on U.S. roads, according to new research from the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety. These resulted in 2,049 deaths in 2016 – the highest number on record and a 60 percent increase since 2009.

I don't dispute your stats, my post was a bit sarcastic, and based on what we read on Thai news.

In European countries "hits and runs" are more rare, because of the density of the population, among other factors.

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