Britain's Conservatives in fourth place in EU election poll, Farage leads

[AlexRich]

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

And then next election the Brexit party will win, and we'll be out, deal or no deal.

The current MPs must be pooping themselves with 30% of the population ready to vote against them next time.

Not with our electoral system. What it will do is usher in a Labour Government or Labour coalition because Nigel Mosely will split the Tory vote. A Labour coalition can only come about by a second referendum ... as the coalition partner will insist on it. I don’t even think Corbyn can hold on to his ambiguous position as they are losing tons of votes to the Liberal Democrat’s. He’ll have to cave on a confirmatory vote.

 

A lot of talk about the Brexit Party, but a failure to realise that a second referendum will end Brexit.

 

The Brexit position is losing, not winning.

[AlexRich]

4 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Corralling the board into opting for a civil war in UK seems to be this trolls agenda.

I'm not playing.

A civil war? That’s the usual nonsense spouted by Brexit lovers. If we don’t get our no deal catastrophe there will be a civil war. Dad’s Army more like. If Brexit is defeated it will simply fade away and die ... just like Brexiteers do every year.

[BritManToo]

6 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

Not with our electoral system. What it will do is usher in a Labour Government or Labour coalition because Nigel Mosely will split the Tory vote. A Labour coalition can only come about by a second referendum ... as the coalition partner will insist on it. I don’t even think Corbyn can hold on to his ambiguous position as they are losing tons of votes to the Liberal Democrat’s. He’ll have to cave on a confirmatory vote.

 

A lot of talk about the Brexit Party, but a failure to realise that a second referendum will end Brexit.

 

The Brexit position is losing, not winning.

You're wrong, the Brexit voters (17.4M) will all vote for the Brexit party.

The rest of the votes will be divided, same as always between the traditional parties.

17.4M is better than most general election turnouts.

 

I've actually done this with a Town Council (created a one issue party with 10 candidates), and won every seat (It surprised me too). I'm guessing you're never run any sort of election campaign.

Discontent wins votes across party lines.

[Loiner]

12 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

If you were winning we would be out of the EU by now. The time is coming soon where you’ll realise that you don’t have the parliamentary numbers for a no deal Brexit ... but there are the numbers to revoke Article 50 ... around October this year. If it comes down to a showdown ... a parliamentary game of chicken or a second referendum, your dream is over. Support for Farage simply isn’t enough.

 

The penny doesn’t seem to have dropped yet?

We currently don't have the MP numbers for No Deal, but it is still the default when the extensions expire again.

Remain also doesn't have the numbers to Revoke Article 50 or it would have been done already. The Remain traitors also don't have a mandate to revoke Article 50 - the referendum result was Leave. None of them have the political will to openly renege on that, which is why Theresa and her turncoats are still trying it by subterfuge. 
The Brexit train is still coming, if delayed somewhat. 

[Loiner]

5 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

Not with our electoral system. What it will do is usher in a Labour Government or Labour coalition because Nigel Mosely will split the Tory vote. A Labour coalition can only come about by a second referendum ... as the coalition partner will insist on it. I don’t even think Corbyn can hold on to his ambiguous position as they are losing tons of votes to the Liberal Democrat’s. He’ll have to cave on a confirmatory vote.

 

A lot of talk about the Brexit Party, but a failure to realise that a second referendum will end Brexit.

 

The Brexit position is losing, not winning.

There won't be a second referendum. The EU overwhelming vote for the Brexit Party on Thursday will put paid to that. We're winning again.

[AlexRich]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

You're actually wrong, the Brexit voters (17.4M) will all vote for the Brexit party.

The rest of the votes will be divided, same as always between the traditional parties.

17.4M is better than most general election turnouts.

 

I've actually done this with a Town Council (a one issue party), and won ever seat (It surprised me too).

I'm guessing you're never run any sort of election campaign.

Discontent wins votes.

No mate, you are completely wrong. There are no longer 17.4m, some of them are dead. Not all of them were “no deal” advocates, in fact no one was promised that. You then have the young who never voted but wish they had and the new young voters, the vast majority of whom hate Brexit. People look at the success of Farage and think that Brexit will win, but in an in or out referendum Brexit is dead in the water. And the longer this drags on the more likely that Brexit dies. 

[AlexRich]

5 minutes ago, Loiner said:

We currently don't have the MP numbers for No Deal, but it is still the default when the extensions expire again.

Remain also doesn't have the numbers to Revoke Article 50 or it would have been done already. The Remain traitors also don't have a mandate to revoke Article 50 - the referendum result was Leave. None of them have the political will to openly renege on that, which is why Theresa and her turncoats are still trying it by subterfuge. 
The Brexit train is still coming, if delayed somewhat. 

When it comes down to the wire, the House of Commons will vote to revoke Article 50. There is no mandate for a no deal Brexit, no one campaigned for that so no one can rightfully claim that is what they voted for. It was never on offer. Even Heseltine is voting Liberal Democrat ... the writing is clearly on the wall. Brexit is dying, and Farage’s success is an illusion ... we are approaching the end game and it’s over for Brexit.

[Loiner]

4 hours ago, wilcopops said:

Anyone who doesn't believe Brexit is a far right occurrence should read this.......

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/16/brexit-britain-weimar-germany-far-right-democracy-contempt-politicians

Just a bit right or far right? More hysterical propaganda for the chattering classes. Actually Brexit is dead center mainstream, the majority.

The Garuniad and the Southern champagne socialists are running scared again. Do they think that the few 'remaining' readers will stop buying the rag after Brexit, or maybe their supper parties will be overrun by Brexiteers laying siege in Hampstead and gentrified boroughs like Islington?

 

[AlexRich]

8 minutes ago, Loiner said:

There won't be a second referendum. The EU overwhelming vote for the Brexit Party on Thursday will put paid to that. We're winning again.

You are losing ... the end is nigh for Brexit. A protest vote for an MEP counts for nothing. You’ll get Johnson as a new leader, he won’t have the numbers to force a no deal, so he’ll gamble with a General Election, Farage will split the vote, Labour will be in with a coalition and there will be a second vote. Brexit is dead. 

 

The EU election is a side show, the main event is in Parliament. Silly boy, you haven’t thought this through, have you?

 

 

 

 

 

[BritManToo]

10 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

some of them are dead. 

You think everyone born before 1955* votes Brexit? (*insert birth date of choice)

I would think everyone who is on a zero hour contract, or made unemployable by a cheap Polish worker voted Brexit.

Tired of your globalist nonsense, you're on my ignore list.

[AlexRich]

Point to note.

 

Since the referendum every Brexiteer prediction on Thai Visa about how Brexit will pan out has been wrong.

[Loiner]

2 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

You are losing ... the end is nigh for Brexit. A protest vote for an MEP counts for nothing. You’ll get Johnson as a new leader, he won’t have the numbers to force a no deal, so he’ll gamble with a General Election, Farage will split the vote, Labour will be in with a coalition and there will be a second vote. Brexit is dead. 

 

The EU election is a side show, the main event is in Parliament. Silly boy, you haven’t thought this through, have you?

A lot of predictions in there. Can you tell me what the lottery numbers will be too please.
Will you be as wrong about these as you were about the referendum result to Leave?

[evadgib]

35 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

A civil war? That’s the usual nonsense spouted by Brexit lovers. If we don’t get our no deal catastrophe there will be a civil war. Dad’s Army more like. If Brexit is defeated it will simply fade away and die ... just like Brexiteers do every year.

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I'm (still) not playing.

 

[tebee]

 

UK has become  a joke within a joke in a joke ...

 

Just to make the long story short, this is the UK in TEN jokes.

First Joke: one of the referendum leaders/jokers' (BoJo) was a remainer who changed his mind just the day the campaign was launched. 
Second joke: A referendum that was clearly consultive (i.e. everyone rational would have considered it no more than an opinion poll) because of some magic turned to be the most imperative decision in human history. 
Third Joke, the PM that told the people "I will run the country whatever the referendum result", resigned few hours after he lost. 
Fourth joke: the new leader appointed in order to take the UK out from the EU spent the entire referendum campaign to take the UK inside the EU. 
Fifth joke: the UK activated art. 50 with no plan at all (irrespective of waiting for 9 months and not being forced to activate it without a clear plan upfront). 
Sixth joke: the common theme during the negotiations was that no deal is better than bad deal. Eventually the PM's bad deal turns out to be just a little better than a no deal. 
Seventh joke: the person who negotiate the deal ended up resigning after the deal was sealed arguing that that was a bad deal (I mean, where was he during the negotiations?).
Eight joke: the government (that did not do anything else for three years but dealing with Brexit) was not able to convince the parliament to the point that they lost the vote.
Ninth joke: Proving Einstein's law (stupidity is to repeat the same experiment many times hoping that the result will change), the government resubmitted the same deal to the parliament and was (strangely) rejected again. 
Tenth joke: the PM asks the EU for an extension without having any clue how to use the extra time.

Now, whatever the final outcome of the Brexit-Joke will be, does anyone consider this country a place where it would be sensible to invest?
 

[BritManToo]

5 minutes ago, tebee said:

Ninth joke: Proving Einstein's law (stupidity is to repeat the same experiment many times hoping that the result will change), the government resubmitted the same deal to the parliament and was (strangely) rejected again. 

Presumably you won't be wanting a second Brexit referendum then?

[AlexRich]

22 minutes ago, Loiner said:

A lot of predictions in there. Can you tell me what the lottery numbers will be too please.
Will you be as wrong about these as you were about the referendum result to Leave?

I didn't make any predictions about the referendum result? I only got involved afterwards. And my observation on here is that Brexiteers have been wrong on everything since that vote ... from Sgt Rock (a rabid poster at the time about the EU's imminent collapse) to the guy recently (who has disappeared) explaining to me that I lacked his legal knowledge and understanding ... and that we would be out by 29 March? And many many more. German manufacturers did not lobby their government, Italian wine makers did not lobby their government ... the EU did not need us as much as was suggested. 

[nontabury]

1 hour ago, AlexRich said:

Not with our electoral system. What it will do is usher in a Labour Government or Labour coalition because Nigel Mosely will split the Tory vote. A Labour coalition can only come about by a second referendum ... as the coalition partner will insist on it. I don’t even think Corbyn can hold on to his ambiguous position as they are losing tons of votes to the Liberal Democrat’s. He’ll have to cave on a confirmatory vote.

 

A lot of talk about the Brexit Party, but a failure to realise that a second referendum will end Brexit.

 

The Brexit position is losing, not winning.

 

Just finished watching the Andrew Marr show where he interviewed Jeremy Corbyn. Interestingly J.C admitted to voting for remain in the people’s referendum of 2016, and this was after he had campaigned throughout the lead up to the vote,urging people to also vote remain.

 So now you know who your bedfellow is, why do you not simple vote Labour,in the hope that you will get what you deserve.

 

 

[AlexRich]

3 minutes ago, nontabury said:

 

Just finished watching the Andrew Marr show where he interviewed Jeremy Corbyn. Interestingly J.C admitted to voting for remain in the people’s referendum of 2016, and this was after he had campaigned throughout the lead up to the vote,urging people to also vote remain.

 So now you know who your bedfellow is, why do you not simple vote Labour,in the hope that you will get what you deserve.

 

 

I don't believe Corbyn ... he did little in the campaign ... and is well known within Labour circles as a closet Brexiter. 

 

And that's why he is losing to the Liberal Democrats.

[nontabury]

2 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

I don't believe Corbyn ... he did little in the campaign ... and is well known within Labour circles as a closet Brexiter. 

 

You always seem to disregard facts and opinions that contradict your own narrow minded views. Better for you to smell the coffee and realise that Brexit or no Brexit, the British people will never accept the E.u.

[evadgib]

Of interest to the 'Far Right' paintbrush brigade:

 

Disclaimer; I am not a fan of TR.

[geoffbezoz]

14 minutes ago, nontabury said:

 

You always seem to disregard facts and opinions that contradict your own narrow minded views. Better for you to smell the coffee and realise that Brexit or no Brexit, the British people will never accept the E.u.

Think this sums up all Psychotic Brexiteers  to a tee  ????

 

• Psychosis is a medical term used to describe hearing or seeing things that do not exist, or believing things that other people do not. 
• Common examples include hearing voices 

[Nigel Garvie]

28 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

I don't believe Corbyn ... he did little in the campaign ... and is well known within Labour circles as a closet Brexiter. 

 

And that's why he is losing to the Liberal Democrats.

 

22 minutes ago, nontabury said:

 

You always seem to disregard facts and opinions that contradict your own narrow minded views. Better for you to smell the coffee and realise that Brexit or no Brexit, the British people will never accept the E.u.

My impression is that Corbyn lied, this is not a "Narrow minded" view, it is a belief shared by millions who have watched him closely over the years.

1) He was always anti EU, he's a Bennite socialist, and believes that the EU is stopping UK from becoming a socialist utopia - this is a form of psychosis.

2) He is relatively unintelligent and incapable of showing the flexibility of mind required to react to changed or changing circumstances.

3) He fought one of the most gutless, spineless, useless campaigns ever seen in these islands, which pretended to be for remain. He never said anything positive about the EU, merely wasted his time attacking the Tories. 50% of the UK LP didn't know what side their party was on.

4) His behaviour ever since has been to drag his feet and resist any attempt within his party to fight against Brexit.

5) He is controlled by puppeteer Seaumas Milne in his politburo who is an ardent Europhobe.

Corbyn is the best foot soldier Farage ever had, a perfect 5th columnist, whose ideology has taken over his mind.

 

 

[AlexRich]

All those predictions down the swanny!

 

I thought "no deal" was the default option on 29 March 2019? Nope, didn't happen.

 

Oh, but we can get rid of May and get a Brexiteer in charge? Yes, but the parliamentary arithmetic is still the same.

 

Right then, we'll call a General Election, that'll sort it out? Sure, and watch the Brexit Party split the Tory vote and usher in a Corbyn and/or Corbyn coalition government ... with a second referendum the price.

 

We can all celebrate Nigel Farage's return to the fray, how ironic it would be if that led to no Brexit at all?

 

 

[evadgib]

9 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

 

None of them can take the heat.

 

They don't like it up em!

From someone wielding a 'far right' paintbrush! ????

[evadgib]

11 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

I thought "no deal" was the default option on 29 March 2019? Nope, didn't happen.

The Fat Lady has yet to reach for the Listerine.....

 

(Wishful thinking but Miller did it)

http://robintilbrook.blogspot.com/

[metisdead]

Some inflammatory bickering/baiting posts and replies have been removed. 

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, AlexRich said:

A civil war? That’s the usual nonsense spouted by Brexit lovers. If we don’t get our no deal catastrophe there will be a civil war. Dad’s Army more like. If Brexit is defeated it will simply fade away and die ... just like Brexiteers do every year.

The Morbid Report......always to the point. 

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, tebee said:

 

UK has become  a joke within a joke in a joke ...

 

Just to make the long story short, this is the UK in TEN jokes.

First Joke: one of the referendum leaders/jokers' (BoJo) was a remainer who changed his mind just the day the campaign was launched. 
Second joke: A referendum that was clearly consultive (i.e. everyone rational would have considered it no more than an opinion poll) because of some magic turned to be the most imperative decision in human history. 
Third Joke, the PM that told the people "I will run the country whatever the referendum result", resigned few hours after he lost. 
Fourth joke: the new leader appointed in order to take the UK out from the EU spent the entire referendum campaign to take the UK inside the EU. 
Fifth joke: the UK activated art. 50 with no plan at all (irrespective of waiting for 9 months and not being forced to activate it without a clear plan upfront). 
Sixth joke: the common theme during the negotiations was that no deal is better than bad deal. Eventually the PM's bad deal turns out to be just a little better than a no deal. 
Seventh joke: the person who negotiate the deal ended up resigning after the deal was sealed arguing that that was a bad deal (I mean, where was he during the negotiations?).
Eight joke: the government (that did not do anything else for three years but dealing with Brexit) was not able to convince the parliament to the point that they lost the vote.
Ninth joke: Proving Einstein's law (stupidity is to repeat the same experiment many times hoping that the result will change), the government resubmitted the same deal to the parliament and was (strangely) rejected again. 
Tenth joke: the PM asks the EU for an extension without having any clue how to use the extra time.

Now, whatever the final outcome of the Brexit-Joke will be, does anyone consider this country a place where it would be sensible to invest?
 

Not funny..

[aright]

8 hours ago, tebee said:

 

UK has become  a joke within a joke in a joke ...

 

Just to make the long story short, this is the UK in TEN jokes.

First Joke: one of the referendum leaders/jokers' (BoJo) was a remainer who changed his mind just the day the campaign was launched. 
Second joke: A referendum that was clearly consultive (i.e. everyone rational would have considered it no more than an opinion poll) because of some magic turned to be the most imperative decision in human history. 
Third Joke, the PM that told the people "I will run the country whatever the referendum result", resigned few hours after he lost. 
Fourth joke: the new leader appointed in order to take the UK out from the EU spent the entire referendum campaign to take the UK inside the EU. 
Fifth joke: the UK activated art. 50 with no plan at all (irrespective of waiting for 9 months and not being forced to activate it without a clear plan upfront). 
Sixth joke: the common theme during the negotiations was that no deal is better than bad deal. Eventually the PM's bad deal turns out to be just a little better than a no deal. 
Seventh joke: the person who negotiate the deal ended up resigning after the deal was sealed arguing that that was a bad deal (I mean, where was he during the negotiations?).
Eight joke: the government (that did not do anything else for three years but dealing with Brexit) was not able to convince the parliament to the point that they lost the vote.
Ninth joke: Proving Einstein's law (stupidity is to repeat the same experiment many times hoping that the result will change), the government resubmitted the same deal to the parliament and was (strangely) rejected again. 
Tenth joke: the PM asks the EU for an extension without having any clue how to use the extra time.

Now, whatever the final outcome of the Brexit-Joke will be, does anyone consider this country a place where it would be sensible to invest?
 

Eleventh joke: A florist goes into the barber shop and has a haircut and when he is ready to pay the barber says no problem Sir, this is on me, this is my week of community service. The florist thanks him and leaves. The following morning the barber comes to his shop and outside the door is a thank you note and a bunch of flowers.

That afternoon the local police officer comes in for a haircut, comes to pay and the barber says don't worry sir, no need to pay, this is my week of community service. Thanks said the Bobbie and leaves. The following morning the Barber arrives and on the step is a thank you note and a bag of delicious doughnuts.

The same day the local MP arrives for a haircut has his trim at the end of which the barber says no payment needed Sir this is my week of community service. The MP leaves.

The following morning the barber arrives at the shop. There is no thankyou note on the doorstep, just a dozen MP's waiting for a haircut.

[aright]

8 hours ago, tebee said:

 

UK has become  a joke within a joke in a joke ...

 

Just to make the long story short, this is the UK in TEN jokes.

First Joke: one of the referendum leaders/jokers' (BoJo) was a remainer who changed his mind just the day the campaign was launched. 
Second joke: A referendum that was clearly consultive (i.e. everyone rational would have considered it no more than an opinion poll) because of some magic turned to be the most imperative decision in human history. 
Third Joke, the PM that told the people "I will run the country whatever the referendum result", resigned few hours after he lost. 
Fourth joke: the new leader appointed in order to take the UK out from the EU spent the entire referendum campaign to take the UK inside the EU. 
Fifth joke: the UK activated art. 50 with no plan at all (irrespective of waiting for 9 months and not being forced to activate it without a clear plan upfront). 
Sixth joke: the common theme during the negotiations was that no deal is better than bad deal. Eventually the PM's bad deal turns out to be just a little better than a no deal. 
Seventh joke: the person who negotiate the deal ended up resigning after the deal was sealed arguing that that was a bad deal (I mean, where was he during the negotiations?).
Eight joke: the government (that did not do anything else for three years but dealing with Brexit) was not able to convince the parliament to the point that they lost the vote.
Ninth joke: Proving Einstein's law (stupidity is to repeat the same experiment many times hoping that the result will change), the government resubmitted the same deal to the parliament and was (strangely) rejected again. 
Tenth joke: the PM asks the EU for an extension without having any clue how to use the extra time.

Now, whatever the final outcome of the Brexit-Joke will be, does anyone consider this country a place where it would be sensible to invest?
 

Let's look at it the other way round.

 

Suppose the UK was not in the EU. What advantages would you see in joining

A currency, the euro, which has been a disaster for everyone except Germany

The financial and social outcomes of the chaos in Greece and Germany

Extremely large levels of Unemployment, especially youth the very people Remainers claim to be protecting with their decisions.

The disaster of the CAP

The Common Fisheries mess

The nudge nudge approach to the USEU

A disaster of an immigration Policy

The rise of extreme right wing parties.

Even more centralization and dictat from Brussels.

??????????

 

 

 

 

 

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