U.S. House to launch Trump impeachment inquiry over Ukraine controversy

[chokrai]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And the cause of Trump’s impending impeachment..... his fear of Biden.

Biden and his son are in more trouble then Trump. Dropping out of the election is the least of his problems.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, chokrai said:

You have nothing to back up your accusations for the last 2 years Biden has already admited to his crimes. 

It’s not Biden who is facing impeachment.

 

And it’s not me who is defending the man who is.

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, chokrai said:

Biden and his son are in more trouble then Trump. Dropping out of the election is the least of his problems.

What, like Biden and his son are facing impeachment and Federal/State charges carrying prison time?

[stevenl]

2 minutes ago, chokrai said:

You have nothing to back up your accusations for the last 2 years Biden has already admited to his crimes. 

I think you'd better watch that video again and tell us where biden said he wanted that prosecutor fired because of an investigation into his son, and would release the funds after the prosecutor would be fired.

[chokrai]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What, like Biden and his son are facing impeachment and Federal/State charges carrying prison time?

Well he is not facing impeachment but could be Federal charges.

[Becker]

4 minutes ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

It begs the question, what is your evidence that a crime has occurred?

 

Do you have a video of Trump admitting to a crime while holding high office?

 

No, you don't.

 

Oh, you do have one of Biden.

 

Tsk tsk

And if that were true why hasn't the GOP and Trump acted on it?

If that were true why does Trump again committ treason and try to obtain the help of a foreign power in his political games?

[chokrai]

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I think you'd better watch that video again and tell us where biden said he wanted that prosecutor fired because of an investigation into his son, and would release the funds after the prosecutor would be fired.

That is what we are going to find out. Him selling out to China for his son would be nice also.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, chokrai said:

That is what we are going to find out. Him selling out to China for his son would be nice also.

‘Could be’......555

[chokrai]

1 minute ago, Becker said:

And if that were true why hasn't the GOP and Trump acted on it?

If that were true why does Trump again committ treason and try to obtain the help of a foreign power in his political games?

Treason? What nonsense.

[Becker]

2 minutes ago, chokrai said:

Well he is not facing impeachment but could be Federal charges.

Could be? Well, OK then - powerful stuff!

[stevenl]

6 minutes ago, chokrai said:

That is what we are going to find out. Him selling out to China for his son would be nice also.

No. You said there was proof and referred to the video. So where is the proof, see my question.

[Jingthing]

Lies.

So many lies.

So many BIG lies.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/09/25/trumps-pinocchio-laden-claims-about-joe-biden-ukraine-polls/

[chokrai]

1 minute ago, Becker said:

Could be? Well, OK then - powerful stuff!

I don't pretend to know the future like you guys predicting the impeachment and or the imprisonment  of Trump every 20 minutes. 

[Tippaporn]

17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

While I agree these accusations against Trump are nothing to do with Biden, there is however a Biden question that has been answered.

 

Trump and his supporters have been telling us Biden is all things not Presidential material, a sure looser against Trump.

 

And yet here we are, Trump’s fear of Biden driving him to commit impeachable crimes.

Trump’s fear of Biden driving him to commit impeachable crimes.

 

Chomper, do you have access to Trump's thoughts?  Where in the world do you come up with such an outlandish assertion that Trump is fearful?  You've made it up from whole cloth.  Why?  Why do people decide to just make things up?

 

And your other assertion that Trump has been driven to commit an impeachable crime is also false.  All of the facts are not in yet you talk as if it were fact that Trump is guilty of the accusation made against him.  Again, why?  What compels people to treat speculation as fact and then propagate it as fact to others?

[riclag]

15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Which begs a question, why is Trump so afraid of Biden that he’s willing to commit crimes to try and dirty his name?!

more conspiracy theories,  committing crimes is nonsense ! No evidence, just another hoax! So calm down,relax,you have been through this before

[Becker]

5 minutes ago, chokrai said:

I don't pretend to know the future like you guys predicting the impeachment and or the imprisonment  of Trump every 20 minutes. 

I've never predicted that Trump will end up in jail or be impeached as the GOP sold their soul in 2016.

But I fervently hope I'm wrong.

[chokrai]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/12/the-money-machine-how-a-high-profile-corruption-investigation-fell-apart

[Chomper Higgot]

13 minutes ago, riclag said:

more conspiracy theories,  committing crimes is nonsense ! No evidence, just another hoax! So calm down,relax,you have been through this before

Yes we have.

 

Nixon.

[Becker]

11 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Trump’s fear of Biden driving him to commit impeachable crimes.

 

Chomper, do you have access to Trump's thoughts?  Where in the world do you come up with such an outlandish assertion that Trump is fearful?

Do you not believe Trump can feel fear?

He certainly felt fear the time his country called on him to do his patriotic duty, which led him to run like a chicken despite the debilitating bone spur condition.

[Tippaporn]

19 minutes ago, Becker said:

And if that were true why hasn't the GOP and Trump acted on it?

If that were true why does Trump again committ treason and try to obtain the help of a foreign power in his political games?

It takes an investigation to collect hard evidence of a crime that would stand up in court.  It's not easy.  If hard evidence does surface then we might see one.

 

Becker, where is your evidence to your assertion?  You cannot legitimately talk as though it were fact.  Why do you and others continue to conflate an accusation with fact? 

[BestB]

 

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

It takes an investigation to collect hard evidence of a crime that would stand up in court.  It's not easy.  If hard evidence does surface then we might see one.

 

Becker, where is your evidence to your assertion?  You cannot legitimately talk as though it were fact.  Why do you and others continue to conflate an accusation with fact? 

You are misinformed.

 

Impeachment is tried before the Congress and the Senate.

 

Back to Civics class you go.

[Tippaporn]

20 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Lies.

So many lies.

So many BIG lies.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/09/25/trumps-pinocchio-laden-claims-about-joe-biden-ukraine-polls/

Jingthing, you give us the Washington Post?  Are you seriously telling us that that is your source of trusted information?  The Post has shown itself to be so disreputable to the point that it is beyond salvation.  Do you realize that the MSM has so thoroughly discredited itself that it beggars belief that anyone would be willing to read anything they write?

[Becker]

6 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

It takes an investigation to collect hard evidence of a crime that would stand up in court.  It's not easy.

Then why hasn't Trump and/or his GOP sycophants started one? These accusations against Biden aren't new.

 

[Tippaporn]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You are misinformed.

 

Impeachment is tried before the Congress and the Senate.

 

Back to Civics class you go.

What are you on about Chomper?

 

If that were true why does Trump again committ treason and try to obtain the help of a foreign power in his political games?

 

This is the question I was replying to.  Are you following along?

[Tippaporn]

1 minute ago, Becker said:

Then why hasn't Trump and/or his GOP sycophants started one? These accusations against Biden aren't new.

 

Think about it, Becker.  Why are so many "crimes" perpetrated by wealthy and powerful personages never investigated?  It ain't hard to figure out.

[Becker]

2 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Jingthing, you give us the Washington Post?  Are you seriously telling us that that is your source of trusted information?  The Post has shown itself to be so disreputable to the point that it is beyond salvation.  Do you realize that the MSM has so thoroughly discredited itself that it beggars belief that anyone would be willing to read anything they write?

I think you'll find that the vast majority of human beings tend to read and generally believe the so called MSM. It's called mainstream and not Looney Tunes for a reason.

But, by all means, go ahead and educate us as to what kind of news sources we should use!

[canuckamuck]

1 minute ago, Becker said:

I think you'll find that the vast majority of human beings tend to read and generally believe the so called MSM. It's called mainstream and not Looney Tunes for a reason.

But, by all means, go ahead and educate us as to what kind of news sources we should use!

The MSM is designed for the majority of people. The rest aren't so easily fooled.

[riclag]

16 minutes ago, BestB said:

 

 The left,dems and  liberal media mantra, Impeach Mr. Trump morning, noon and night, since 2015 . I hope all independent swing voters are watching! Thanks for sharing 

[Tippaporn]

55 minutes ago, Becker said:

I think you'll find that the vast majority of human beings tend to read and generally believe the so called MSM. It's called mainstream and not Looney Tunes for a reason.

But, by all means, go ahead and educate us as to what kind of news sources we should use!

The mainstream media had once enjoyed, and even earned, a regard of credibility.  It has since been lost.  When a news source begins to report falsities time and again, when they've metamorphosed from reporting facts to spewing only biased opinions, then I turn away from them.  Granted, some are able to gloss over all of their disrepute and hence still consider them respectable.

 

Alternative media is considered Looney Tunes only by the same individuals who still believe in the unblemished authority of MSM.  It is promoted as such by the MSM precisely to protect it's standing and influence.  But that is only self evident.

 

In this day and age the news sources available to us are too numerous to list.  But no matter what the news source is I would say that only a fool would swallow anything whole without examination.  In my opinion there isn't a single source out there that does not have it's own bias in one regard or another.  Sometimes truthful, sometimes not.

 

Now I figured that I was gifted a brain for a reason so I leave it to myself to sort the truth from the BS.  And as you pointed out, the vast majority of human beings tend to read and generally believe the so called MSM.  In other words, there are a lot of people who do not think for themselves and are completely comfortable with others, be it the MSM or another source, to tell them unequivocably what to think.