Ceiling light fitting wiring problem

[toast1]

Can anyone help with this problem of wiring?

I replaced a UK light fitting, two black two red wires. I assumed the red went together and the black together, but when I did this the circuit fuse kept blowing.

If I connect the Blue wire to one of the black wires, nothing happens, when I connect the blue wire to the other black wire the light stays on, despite the wall switch.

Black and red are old colours, coming from the ceiling, Blue and brown are the new colours going to the light socket.

I can't work out how I should wire this new ceiling light up.

 

I connected the two black wires from the ceiling in the same area as the blue wire, then tried the middle section that receives wires. Not sure what that's for. 

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Any ideas?

Thanks

 

Edited September 25, 2019 by toast1

[Crossy]

If this is a standard loop-in connection in the rose you should have:-

 

Neutral -  black

Live in - red and live all the time

Live to switch - red

Switched live from switch - black.

 

For simplicity try this:-

 

Both red wires on the centre 3 pole connector.

A black wire on each of the remaining connectors (one 2-pole, one 3-pole)

Connect the lamp to the two black wires.

 

Like this:-

 

 

[toast1]

Thank you

I will try this

If I don't burn the house down, I'll let you know.

[johng]

Could you also let us know if you do burn the house down ? ????

[sometimewoodworker]

2 hours ago, johng said:

Could you also let us know if you do burn the house down ? ????

Popcorn ?????

[johng]

Popcorn [emoji897]?

Marshmallows or Baked potatoes for me.

[Crossy]

Do I detect a slight doubt that our OP will successfully fix his light?

 

Toasted crumpets with butter for me please

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

Please be aware that colors of wires mean nothing in Thailand.

If in one room red if this and blue it that that does not mean it's the same in the next room. It can be anything!

And unfortunately that is not just true for little houses but also for expensive office buildings in Bangkok.

I saw things in engineer rooms of expensive places which few people would believe - but let's not forget: TiT!

[Crossy]

5 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Please be aware that colors of wires mean nothing in Thailand.

If in one room red if this and blue it that that does not mean it's the same in the next room. It can be anything!

And unfortunately that is not just true for little houses but also for expensive office buildings in Bangkok.

I saw things in engineer rooms of expensive places which few people would believe - but let's not forget: TiT!

 

But don't forget our OP is in the UK ????

 

[Crossy]

1 minute ago, Arjen said:

I am not sure about this....

He wrote UK light fitting, can be everywhere in the world? Or are my English understanding skills so bad?

 

How many Artex ceilings have you seen in sunny Thailand? ????

 

[Crossy]

37 minutes ago, Arjen said:

To tell you the truth, I even do not know what an Artex ceiling is!

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artex

 

 

Horrible stuff to remove if you don't want it any more (and the early stuff contains asbestos).

[sometimewoodworker]

The USA has their own version of this nasty stuff called a popcorn ceiling. Equally bad and used mostly to cover defects like Artex.

 

Though some people actually like them.

[toast1]

It worked

 

thanks!

[Crossy]

20 minutes ago, toast1 said:

It worked

thanks!

 

No toasted crumpets then ????