englishoak Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, DannyCarlton said: WE'LL BE BACK! Not for the next 5 years you wont, my prediction is Labour will probably elect a woman and a Londoner...Emily Thorinthebutt probably. Caroline Flint just got spanked too, there goes another Blairite LOl Labour will probably go more left wing the idiots but thats ok, plenty of time to regroup in a few years but also for the world to turn a few times..Globalism is not the trend, nationalism most definitely is.. and thats not right wing just in group preference, as is natural. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vogie Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said: Only good news of the day. It wasn't so long ago you were flying the Corbyn flag, mmnnn? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post englishoak Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: And will plummet when Scotland will leave the union. No it will rise, Scotland is a net drain on sterling, sorry but thats true. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, vogie said: It wasn't so long ago you were flying the Corbyn flag, mmnnn? Please quote, I've never flown the Corbyn flag. Probably disliked the man before you'd even heard of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, englishoak said: No it will rise, Scotland is a net drain on sterling, sorry but thats true. If you know that to be factual, you are literally the only person with such information to hand. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pedro01 Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 My only shock in this thread is than no-one has mentioned the Diane of Abbot yet. If anything highlighted Corbyns abysmal poor judgement it was his choice of her as potential Home Secretary. It was quite clear she's not all there and completely out of her depth & the fact she's his ex-girlfriend is bad optics. One can only marvel at what she must have on him to have maintained that role. All we are going to here now is: - the media were against Labour - the Russians did it - people that voted Con are stupid/racist One thing we probably won't hear is a good analysis on what went wrong with the opposition and what can be done (if anything) to repair it. I am glad Boris won but I also think there needs to be a viable and rational opposition. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Haha - the PM is just crowing about a 'One Nation' win which will unite the country. We will see tomorrow just how that statement is as much guff as every other utterance the man has ever come out with. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookiescot Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, englishoak said: No it will rise, Scotland is a net drain on sterling, sorry but thats true. Wrong but never mind. Scotland has no deficit. The 7% you seem to allude to is a deficit run by Westminster which it blames Scotland for. Scotland and its government gets no say in how that money is spent. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: And the strong UK will lead the world forever. Sure, 1000% sure. 555 At last you,ve posted something I agree with 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuamRudy Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Swinson out! ???????????? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, RuamRudy said: If you know that to be factual, you are literally the only person with such information to hand. Shouldnt be. I can be a bit harsh but roughly. It depends on how things are calculated. From FullFact: Scotland: Tax and spending 2015/16 Scotland’s total public sector revenue was just under £54 billion in 2015/16. That’s around 8% of the total revenue in the UK. In the same year the total public expenditure in Scotland was £69 billion. That’s around 9% of all public spending in the UK that year, so a greater proportion than the population. So the contribution is decent but the expenditure is overall a drain in proportion. Update: Joe Swinson just lost her seat in Dumbarton by 200 to the SNP bye bye Brexit wrecker LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vogie Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: Swinson out! ???????????? Yes that wiped the smug grin off her face. Edited December 13, 2019 by vogie 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FritsSikkink Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, englishoak said: No it will rise, Scotland is a net drain on sterling, sorry but thats true. No they are a huge net contributor, your story in English propaganda to keep Scotland in the union. Edited December 13, 2019 by FritsSikkink 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 30 minutes ago, englishoak said: 227 seats declared so far .You have to appreciate this is the FOURTH Gen election Labour has lost and the margin is getting worse not better.... New projection just in is Labour are going to lose even bigger than the exit poll predicted... Labours only gains of note are London so far lol... Labour as the working class party is over.. its now just the champagne socialist party ... this defeat will be historic..Labour projection currently 201 .. as a marker M Foot got 209 so its the worst ever in the making for Labour. Just in DUP leader just lost his seat to SF LOL and Joe Swinsons seat looks to be in danger... This is hilarious, dont mess with the British public for too long they do have a limit to thier patience. ???? The turnout btw is looking pretty high... in the mid 60% + atm.. thats also important.. there are no excuses left ???? "Labour as the working class party is over." Yes, that is an issue the social democrat parties in many of the European countries have. Others are emerging though, but in the UK without proportional repre4sentation this is much mkore difficult. At the moment the lack of a workers class party is in favour of the Conservatives, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kingdong Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 30 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said: Not just me but the UK lost today. Yeah they,ve lost over three and a half years to sort brexit out with remainer s whingeing about a " people's vote" well you,ve had it and you,ve lost 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: No they are a huge net contributor, your story in English propaganda to keep Scotland in the union. So I posted details you can check.... off you go, find and post some facts people can check instead of just making your claim. Propaganda im not interested in, I am however being a supporter of Scottish independence happy to see your claims turned into facts. Off you go.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post englishoak Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 LOL Corbyn says he wants to stay on and lead a period of "reflection" 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RuamRudy Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, englishoak said: So I posted details you can check.... off you go, find and post some facts people can check instead of just making your claim. Propaganda im not interested in, I am however being a supporter of Scottish independence happy to see your claims turned into facts. Off you go.. The thing is, though, that our shared wishes are best met through respectful and mutually supportive collaboration. My fight is not against England or the English; I simply want that my country is not governed from another. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post poohy Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 Whoosh! there goes the NHS Whoosh! here come higher prices and poverty I !hope they are proud of themselves 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 5 hours ago, Chelseafan said: Baht already soaring at 40.65. Do you mean the baht is soaring, or do you mean the pound sterling is soaring ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 What happens if Trump's mini-me, Johnson, does just like Trump and betrays the people who voted for him and his party? What if he does a Brexit in name only, now that he has the votes? All these shifty con-men are the same. Watch him get bought off. Easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChipButty Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 5 hours ago, Somtamnication said: On Feb 1st, I want my dark blue passport back, please!!!! On Feb 1st I want 65 Baht to the pound 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 hours ago, JAG said: Before one gets too carried away, or despondent, depending on your political viewpoint, remember that, as it seems with any UK decision arrived at by asking the electorate, it should be regarded as purely advisable! ???? Advisory, surely ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) Boris won his election.... , E.U. get that good May's "wit draw agreement" in Boris version , and U.K. looses Scotland so to hear the latest from N. Sturgeon as SNP winning …. So it looks many can be pleased today . Soi Buakhow shall be full of happy drunk R.W. Brits I guess tonight Edited December 13, 2019 by david555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: The thing is, though, that our shared wishes are best met through respectful and mutually supportive collaboration. My fight is not against England or the English; I simply want that my country is not governed from another. Absolutely agree with you as I wish exactly the same for my country. I assume your not in any hurry to be governed by the EU and Brussels directive no less than Westminster then ? But thats another topic, the SNP has won a great victory so well done I guess. Just how the SNP square that circle with the cry of independence with Scots i have no idea and never have with its pro EU stance. On a side note didnt the ex Tory leader Scotland say she would swim butt naked in Loch ness if the SNP got 50+ ? thats got to be a worse threat than fracking no ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, zydeco said: What happens if Trump's mini-me, Johnson, does just like Trump and betrays the people who voted for him and his party? What if he does a Brexit in name only, now that he has the votes? All these shifty con-men are the same. Watch him get bought off. Easy. Tell us in what way Trump has betrayed his supporters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nigel Garvie Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, englishoak said: LOL Corbyn says he wants to stay on and lead a period of "reflection" That is his puppet master Len the gross talking. Translated it means that Len wants to get all his ducks in a row so he can control the choice of LP leader. Len has already picked two losers to destroy the electability of the party - what could possibly go wrong. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thingamabob Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, poohy said: Whoosh! there goes the NHS Whoosh! here come higher prices and poverty I !hope they are proud of themselves Silly. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Good, now can you finally leave. It's been like suffering an ex-girlfriend who just tries to hang on and doesn't understand she's not welcome anymore. Shoo, off to the Atlantic you go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: This poll doesn’t have to be accurate, the Tory majority it indicates is unassailable. The UK is to get an extreme rightwing government. Kiss welfare and the NHS, worker’s rights and social justice goodbye. The end is nigh? It would have been if momentum,sorry Corbyn got in 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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