After Brexit, the UK has no choice but to become an American vassal state?

[sniggie]

4 minutes ago, Fairynuff said:

The Euro is still stronger than the GBP. Remember on day 1 when it was 1.42? The GBP actually rocketed to hit 1.20 when Johnson won, far short of 1.42

There do seem to be certain posters on various threads that wish ill on others. I want a strong pound. I don't wish for a weak Euro (or a weak baht for that matter). Why wish misfortune on others just because we UK citizens are going through the mill at the moment.

[sunnyboy2018]

13 minutes ago, sniggie said:

How so?

Strong economy,  competitive currency,  high employment, booming housing market, stable government, no civil strife, stock and shares rising. The main country in Europe that gives opportunities to all, trade unions nearly  under control..

How not so?

[Fairynuff]

3 minutes ago, sniggie said:

Why wish misfortune on others just because we UK citizens are going through the mill at the moment.

The UK voted for its own misfortune. Sadly .

[sunnyboy2018]

2 minutes ago, sniggie said:

There do seem to be certain posters on various threads that wish ill on others. I want a strong pound. I don't wish for a weak Euro (or a weak baht for that matter). Why wish misfortune on others just because we UK citizens are going through the mill at the moment.

Were going through the mill . But mainly elitist inpired angst not reality

[sfokevin]

2 hours ago, Rocking Robert said:

You can always become the 51st state.  

They would need to learn to speak proper English before we let them become a state!... 

Edited December 17, 2019 by sfokevin

[Fairynuff]

12 minutes ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

Strong economy,  competitive currency,  high employment, booming housing market, stable government, no civil strife, stock and shares rising. The main country in Europe that gives opportunities to all, trade unions nearly  under control..

How not so?

Oh sorry I thought you were talking about the UK. Which country is this?

Edited December 17, 2019 by Fairynuff

[vogie]

7 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Blue passports is the ONLY tangible "benefit" that Brexit will actually deliver for most people.

The rich however are set to line their nests thanks very much.

Thanks for clearing that up RS, you wasn't being sarcastic and trying to bait other at all then.????????????

[sunnyboy2018]

Just now, Fairynuff said:

The UK voted for its own misfortune. Sadly .

Yeah Democracy sucks. Ha ha. You want misfortune for the UK to justify your political opinion just like the so called resistance and Trump haters in the USA.

[Fairynuff]

2 minutes ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

Were going through the mill . But mainly elitist inpired angst not reality

Elitist? Seems to be a bit of a buzz word these days. Meaningless

[sniggie]

1 minute ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

Strong economy,  competitive currency,  high employment, booming housing market, stable government, no civil strife, stock and shares rising. The main country in Europe that gives opportunities to all, trade unions nearly  under control..

How not so?

Really? How about weak economy, ridiculously low pound, large number of people on ZHCs (no sick leave or annual leave) counting as employed, and trade unions so weakened by legislation that they can't fight for better terms and conditions. Just what the current US government would like.  

[Fairynuff]

2 minutes ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

Yeah Democracy sucks. Ha ha. You want misfortune for the UK to justify your political opinion just like the so called resistance and Trump haters in the USA.

The last thing I want for the uk is misfortune, what an idiotic thing to say. Just because your version of democracy works for your agenda doesn’t actually make it democracy 

[Fairynuff]

4 minutes ago, sniggie said:

Really? How about weak economy, ridiculously low pound, large number of people on ZHCs (no sick leave or annual leave) counting as employed, and trade unions so weakened by legislation that they can't fight for better terms and conditions. Just what the current US government would like.  

Do you really have to shatter their illusion? Let them be, reality is coming 

[sammieuk1]

We are in Boris's safe hands right now how do we know cos he said so what could possibly go wrong now????

[worgeordie]

23 minutes ago, Fairynuff said:

The Euro is still stronger than the GBP. Remember on day 1 when it was 1.42? The GBP actually rocketed to hit 1.20 when Johnson won, far short of 1.42

Early days....

regards Worgeordie

[sniggie]

10 minutes ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

Were going through the mill . But mainly elitist inpired angst not reality

As someone who has retired abroad I can assure you that my angst (about the pound in particular) is very real. But at least you've promoted me to the elite. Never been at such an exalted level before!

[Fairynuff]

2 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Early days....

regards Worgeordie

Exactly how long do u want to wait?

[Captain 776]

Nooooo thanks~!!

We left you once already and dont want you back.

[Fairynuff]

2 minutes ago, sniggie said:

As someone who has retired abroad I can assure you that my angst (about the pound in particular) is very real. But at least you've promoted me to the elite. Never been at such an exalted level before!

Don’t get too excited, anyone who didn’t vote leave is called elite

[worgeordie]

Just now, Fairynuff said:

Exactly how long do u want to wait?

As long as it takes,all depends if Germany are happy to prop up,

Spain,Portugal,Greece,Italy,are there anymore teetering on collapse,

regards Worgeordie

[Rimmer]

A troll post has been removed

[Fairynuff]

2 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

As long as it takes,all depends if Germany are happy to prop up,

Spain,Portugal,Greece,Italy,are there anymore teetering on collapse,

regards Worgeordie

I suspect you'll be long gone before the EU breaks up 

[zyphodb]

18 minutes ago, sniggie said:

Really? How about weak economy, ridiculously low pound, large number of people on ZHCs (no sick leave or annual leave) counting as employed, and trade unions so weakened by legislation that they can't fight for better terms and conditions. Just what the current US government would like.  

Don't forget food banks, the disabled, sick, old and unemployed dieing on the streets as their basic survival money is stripped from them for pathetic reasons, oh and lets not forget one of the lowest state pensions in the developed world...

[Fairynuff]

1 minute ago, zyphodb said:

one of the lowest state pensions in the developed world...

They’ll probably tell you the unelected EU took their pension money

[Baerboxer]

2 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Democracy?

You want to refuse Scotland a referendum based on the fact you fear the result and come on here talking about democracy?

 

How is it democracy to allow a vote by around 6% that will affect 100%?

 

And why should 92% be dictated to by potentially 2-4% on when and how that must be?

 

Nationalist Socialist idea of democracy - we must have everything our way!

[Baerboxer]

23 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

As long as it takes,all depends if Germany are happy to prop up,

Spain,Portugal,Greece,Italy,are there anymore teetering on collapse,

regards Worgeordie

 

If, when, the German economy really tanks, then we'll see what happens.

 

All these grand EU ideas: army, one budget, EU central Finance Ministry, harmonized taxes (haha Luxembourg), etc etc are dependent on being financed by the net contributors - and they're aren't many of them. 

 

Germany pays and understandably wants the final say in many things because of it. When the others start refusing to go along with German desires, and the German economy tanks, watch the sparks start to fly!

 

Napoleon Macron has plenty on his plate to sort out in France!

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said:

And project fear continues...

He was probably one of the many 'experts' who said the EU will never reopen negotiations on the WA - and then they did. 

Did you read the article?

Exactly which part is not true?

 

Obviously most of the things related to Brexit will only happen after Brexit is completely done. And that includes the transition period which is currently planned until end of 2020. You also still pay for the pleasure to be in the EU until end of 2020. That should be a hint for you that didn't leave until then.

[Rookiescot]

12 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

How is it democracy to allow a vote by around 6% that will affect 100%?

 

And why should 92% be dictated to by potentially 2-4% on when and how that must be?

 

Nationalist Socialist idea of democracy - we must have everything our way!

Apply your same logic to Brexit.

The votes in the UK should be secondary to the wider population of the EU?

[Black arab]

38 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

As long as it takes,all depends if Germany are happy to prop up,

Spain,Portugal,Greece,Italy,are there anymore teetering on collapse,

regards Worgeordie

Sounds like Germany is going to go through some bad times as well from what i hear.

[flossie35]

There are other options. The sensible one is to remain - and the majority of general election votes went to remain parties. Second best is BINO - brexit in name only _ where nothing changes except we no longer have a voice in Brussels. Taking back control??? Haha. We should never sign a trade agreement with US.

[intheheartoftheheart]

I am curious who Britain's primary trading partners will be once Brexit is finalized. EU will take 10 years to ratify any trade deals and, like Zeihan says, they'll be lining up to twist the knife. 

 

Perhaps the 5 Eyes Anglosphere can finally unite into a trading/immigration block? That would be interesting...