just let  you know ,, after all people have helmet and docs...they need new source of income

 

as new  they fine you, even you have innsurance..but the isnsurance sticker keept in the glass at the backside of motor !!!!

 

new..must stick on motorbike

 

they really want to <deleted> off all the people here

 

 

everyday a new <deleted>

 

see foto

32 minutes ago, lapamita said:

as new  they fine you, even you have innsurance..but the isnsurance sticker keept in the glass at the backside of motor !!!!

 

new..must stick on motorbike

You where fined for not displaying the TAX ( not insurance)  lots of people keep it under the seat

(most cops seem happy enough with that)..the glass tubes have been popular for a while now..but they can be difficult to read

I think if you argued at the police station showing the evidence it was displayed in the tube they maybe would let you off with a warning.

 

They also have been known to fine people for leaving the rear foot pegs down  when not carrying a passenger.

not payed until now. ( key moto i take my pocket before him catch ...big argue at side )..tomorow will go

 

all s********** docs in motorbike ...insurance copy book and tax in glass.........everytime some new

 

why they no say all westerns f********* off within 3 month , more fair, than we know where we are

It might have helped if you had put it in the tube so that the details could actually be read...

can see details..just only the pic i made so near, that dont see details

 

as well copy of book and tax bill in motobike..bcs payed before for no have copy book

Money go down, crime and scams go up.

 

More of this selective enforcement to come. 

 

 

I'm not clear, he gave you a ticket because he couldn't read the tax reg plate etc? did you take it out the tube to show him? if not then it's a fair case i think.

 

He can't take your word for it.

 

If you took it out the tube but he still gave you a ticket then the guys an a hole

Op, it would appear you have the sticker in the tube the wrong way around and all the details cannot be read. The sticker goes in the tube so the numbers and other information go from top to bottom, then all the year, month and model information can be seen. The way you have the sticker in the tube barely 2 digits can be seen and none of the other information.

 

45 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Op, it would appear you have the sticker in the tube the wrong way around and all the details cannot be read. The sticker goes in the tube so the numbers and other information go from top to bottom, then all the year, month and model information can be seen. The way you have the sticker in the tube barely 2 digits can be seen and none of the other information.

 

Isn't the offense committed when you can't / don't produce it, not because it's been put in the tube in a certain way? 

3 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Isn't the offense committed when you can't / don't produce it, not because it's been put in the tube in a certain way? 

If he didn't take it out the tube to show the policeman then it's right he got a ticket

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

If he didn't take it out the tube to show the policeman then it's right he got a ticket

Sure, I agree.  If it's obscured, I can understand the police not accepting it, inside the tube, but surely one would smash it open, if they  couldn't open it, just to show the the police.   

It is supposed to be "displayed" on the bike. The photo in the OP shows that apart from being inserted in the tube the wrong way, the mounting tag is broken so regardless, it probably wasn't being "displayed" on the bike.

 

1. Put the tax sticker in the tube the right way round, and

2. Place it on the bike so that it is easily visible for checking checked, then

3. Get a ticket for something else anyway.

1 hour ago, Peterw42 said:

Op, it would appear you have the sticker in the tube the wrong way around and all the details cannot be read

That's advanced expert advice

At the first year it took me a few attempts to roll it the right way.

 

There are gadgets other than the tubes.

18 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Sure, I agree.  If it's obscured, I can understand the police not accepting it, inside the tube, but surely one would smash it open, if they  couldn't open it, just to show the the police.   

smash it with what? the Honda Click has a screw driver under the seat that would open it.

 

I'm guessing the Op may have been a bit aggressive too with the policeman, it won't help

8 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

smash it with what?

Obviously, try to open it the conventional way, but it one can't open it that way, jump on it, ride the bike over it, put it on the road for a car to driver over.  Do what it takes to prove your innocence.

the taxsticker was checked minimum 50 times in the last 2 years

 

now cant find other s******* ..than at 51. the must fine for this

 

like i hear ..not new.. bcs others told me get fined the last 2 weeks too

 

by the way the pic of the sticker was not on the motorbike it was made in room from other...

 

i take them away on all 3

Count your blessing, Philippines are fining people 1,000 pesos for wearing shorts, short sleeved shirts or flip flops....seriously..

Still unclear (to me anyway) but was the sticker and glass holder on display?

I still keep mine under the seat, it seems to have been sufficient for the couple of rare occasions I have been asked for it. Couple of pals have had their transparent tubes nicked, so I feel disinclined to keep it elsewhere.

I was told it is not required to be on display by law, only available to be shown. Is that correct?

They are thieves, collecting money and picking on tourists or foreigners.

 

Good reminder, my new one has been sitting on the table for a while, time to put it under the seat.

10 hours ago, treetops said:

Still unclear (to me anyway) but was the sticker and glass holder on display?

Given the broken mounting tab I assume it was under the seat.

6 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I still keep mine under the seat, it seems to have been sufficient for the couple of rare occasions I have been asked for it. Couple of pals have had their transparent tubes nicked, so I feel disinclined to keep it elsewhere.

Same also. Get stopped normally at least once a month and has not been a problem up to now. As you say would be useful to have a link to the actual regulation.

8 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I still keep mine under the seat, it seems to have been sufficient for the couple of rare occasions I have been asked for it. Couple of pals have had their transparent tubes nicked, so I feel disinclined to keep it elsewhere.

I was told it is not required to be on display by law, only available to be shown. Is that correct?

They are thieves, collecting money and picking on tourists or foreigners.

 

Good reminder, my new one has been sitting on the table for a while, time to put it under the seat.

I keep all my documents in a small bag, which goes under the seat of the bike, when I leave home. 

 

When I have been pulled over, I open the seat, open the bag, and out comes all relevant documents, including copies of my passport and visa. 

 

I haven't been pulled over many times, but when I have been, they have never said it has to be on display, so I am assuming, rightly or wrongly, it only needs to be produced. 

 

They can make up the rules when they pull you over, so if they are after a bribe, or need to get a quota of fines, you will be getting one, or paying a bribe, no matter how much you protest. 

 

As you say, they are corrupt, and go after the easy targets, who have the most money.  

Des anybody know about the order, that you have to have it on display or stuck on the MC?

13 minutes ago, fxe1200 said:

Des anybody know about the order, that you have to have it on display or stuck on the MC?

IDK but all cars have them visibly stuck to the windscreen. Why should MC's be treated different? 

^ Maybe cos MCs don't usually have a windscreen? ......????

I put a good quality colour photocopy in the tube and the original in my bike box. That way I never need to empty the copy from the tube, I just produce the original.

 

That being said, I have not been challenged so far.

 

RtS

2 hours ago, Rod the Sod said:

I put a good quality colour photocopy in the tube and the original in my bike box. That way I never need to empty the copy from the tube, I just produce the original.

 

That being said, I have not been challenged so far.

 

RtS

when you are stopped they just look at the tube?

On 12/20/2019 at 11:51 PM, Don Mega said:

Given the broken mounting tab I assume it was under the seat.

I think the OP tried to claim the pic was of another one taken for convenience in his room, not the actual one, but it's unclear.  See post #16

 

On 12/20/2019 at 12:06 PM, lapamita said:

by the way the pic of the sticker was not on the motorbike it was made in room from other...

 

On 12/20/2019 at 2:58 PM, lapamita said:

not payed until now. ( key moto i take my pocket before him catch ...big argue at side )..tomorow will go

 

all s********** docs in motorbike ...insurance copy book and tax in glass.........everytime some new

 

why they no say all westerns f********* off within 3 month , more fair, than we know where we are

No idea why you've gotten into such troubles. If you were as rude as your post suggests you are, then I'm not wondering why.

 

   I just recently got a 600 baht ticket for parking in the second row. When I explained to the cop that I had problems with my car, he took the ticket back and it was all good.

 

  Cops aren't all there to get you. many of them are pretty cool.

 

    Treat others the same way you want to be treated. 

On 12/21/2019 at 6:45 AM, jacko45k said:

Couple of pals have had their transparent tubes nicked, so

Two motos glass tube with docs tore off of both once... didn’t give them another chance ... didn’t replace