Stronger pound, ruble hold promise for Pattaya tourism

[Magenta408]

Who is writing this dribble? Irresponsible. 

[toofarnorth]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

The baht needs to drop. Simple.

Of course it does , then so many probs. sorted here , more tourists happier expats , Jobs more secure here in the tourist industry to name a couple but then this from Patts.

Not sure about Patts. today but here the sun is shining , ...oh no its not it has started to rain and could be snow but tomorrow it will be sunny again.

[Eindhoven]

2 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

We are never going to get a good exit deal from the EU. Been saying that since the referendum. Boris should leave now with a hard Brexit. Just another year wasted if not.

 

From whom will we get a good deal? From the USA under Trump. Not likely. They will try to force us to take their crud. Just like they are doing with Thailand, with their poisonous Monsanto products.

[BestB]

I thought indians were the last hope? Turns out Russians are Brits are here in droves , they must be the reason behind the 39 million arrivals ????

[Orton Rd]

2 hours ago, picctrainop said:

Brexit is going to do Nothing But untold damage to The UK especially with a No Deal. The Pound will Only Bomb Further Against the Baht and All Other Currencies...

There are more important things than the exchange rate, freedom, self determination and democracy for a start. As soon as we throw off the EU tyranny the pound will perk up again.

Edited December 23, 2019 by Orton Rd

[Andrew Dwyer]

Stronger pound ??

 

Looks like a xxxxx xxxx headline to me !!

 

( last time I used those two words I took a little holiday ☹️ )

[Eindhoven]

3 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

There are more important things than the exchange rate, freedom, self determination and democracy for a start. As soon as we throe off the EU tyranny the pound will perk up again.

 

Oh wake up...

 

EU tyranny? No, EU regulations, saving us from the likes of the USA trying to force their <deleted> products on us.

USA try to claim protectionism, but the EU has none of it.

Will Boris have the leeway to say no to the USA?

 

Will you sell your soul and your children's health for a stronger £? The £ was strong enough before that ridiculous referendum.

 

 

[Captain 776]

Pinpoint focus to bring the people that spend the least?

 

They have aimed, but their focus is waaaaaaaay off I M H O

[Captain 776]

4 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

Most people book their holidays well in advance. Currency or not, it's not going to affect THIS high season.

 

EXACTLY......I am 67 lived here 15 yrs, travel extensively in my working career in Oil and Gas.........and NOT ONCE......did Exchange rate ever cross my mind when planning a trip ANYWHERE ....EVER~!!!

[hotchilli]

1 hour ago, lamyai3 said:

What resurgence? The pound rose for about two days after the election, only to drop right back again. This press release is nonsense. 

agreed, nonsensical news. 

[Orton Rd]

7 minutes ago, Eindhoven said:

 

Oh wake up...

 

EU tyranny? No, EU regulations, saving us from the likes of the USA trying to force their <deleted> products on us.

USA try to claim protectionism, but the EU has none of it.

Will Boris have the leeway to say no to the USA?

 

Will you sell your soul and your children's health for a stronger £? The £ was strong enough before that ridiculous referendum.

 

 

Any institution as anti democratic as the EU can be nothing other than a tyranny. souls and health do not come into it, we voted to get our country back from the EU, and we will be.

[baansgr]

The boat has already sailed...take a look at the numerous Angeles, phom phen and Da Nang groups and see the reality of how many expats and repeat tourists are shunning Thailand like it has the plague

[Max69xl]

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

This topic soon got dated. The pound is back down in the doldrums again!

Yes,38,90 (TT) today at Bangkok Bank. 

[Henryford]

17 minutes ago, Captain 776 said:

EXACTLY......I am 67 lived here 15 yrs, travel extensively in my working career in Oil and Gas.........and NOT ONCE......did Exchange rate ever cross my mind when planning a trip ANYWHERE ....EVER~!!!

For a short holiday exchange rates don't really make much difference. It only affects the long term residents.

[Rookiescot]

39 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

There are more important things than the exchange rate, freedom, self determination and democracy for a start. As soon as we throw off the EU tyranny the pound will perk up again.

Perhaps you could give examples of EU tyranny please?

[lensta]

The word "desperate" always comes to mind when reading articles like this 

[shackleton]

I think there is a long way to go on the pound rising to the dizzy heights 

of 40 plus 

It's going to take a few years once we depart Europe and finally 

Get Brexit done 

[Bangkok Barry]

4 hours ago, jacko45k said:

This topic soon got dated. The pound is back down in the doldrums again!

 

The OP said that. What it also said though was that uncertainty is over. It isn't, which is why the pound fell back, on the grounds that there might still be a hard Brexit after the PM said a trade deal must be done by the end of next year. No deal = hard Brexit. So we're in for another 12 months of uncertainty.

[Srikcir]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

A bet on a stronger ruble isn’t as certain.

Trump just signed this bill:

The U.S. Senate on Tuesday passed legislation to slap sanctions on companies building a massive underwater pipeline to bring Russian natural gas to Germany.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-defense-congress-nord-stream/bill-imposing-sanctions-on-companies-building-russian-gas-pipeline-heads-to-white-house-idUSKBN1YL2EP

 

[Mr Smithy]

Bangkok Bank is,today offering a TT rate of 38.90250/£ - Not much of a recovery!

[Surasak]

High hopes, he had High hopes, High apple pie in the sky hopes.

[angloirishaussie]

the day I listen to a Chelsea fan? I will be in the realms of fantasy

[Thomas Hannah]

It makes no difference.Even if it jumped 10 baht ,Its expencive in thailand,Unless you want to stay in your hotel.Dont drink or go with women.So there are many places less expencive in europe for drinking and beaches.Pattaya was popular,because it was cheap.And many could stay there for long periods of year.And you used to get respect.even though many did not deserve it.

[Isaan sailor]

1 hour ago, baansgr said:

The boat has already sailed...take a look at the numerous Angeles, phom phen and Da Nang groups and see the reality of how many expats and repeat tourists are shunning Thailand like it has the plague

It’s known as the ChiCom hot money plague.

[hottrader77]

4 hours ago, nev said:

A small spike in currency exchange isn't  going to bring back tourists it goes a lot deeper than that. 

yes agree , apart from a weak pound getting weaker there is the subject of visas how can you get more tourists when you say to them they can only stay 3 months in a year , i like to come for 4 months - 6 months holiday therefore i will be leaving at end of my 60 day visa and fly to philippines for almost 2 months and only come back to get my return flight back to uk . i am not even going to bother extending my 60 day visa, goodbye thailand and being ripped off and i have been coming to thailand for 25 years 

Edited December 23, 2019 by hottrader77

[Max69xl]

1 hour ago, Captain 776 said:

EXACTLY......I am 67 lived here 15 yrs, travel extensively in my working career in Oil and Gas.........and NOT ONCE......did Exchange rate ever cross my mind when planning a trip ANYWHERE ....EVER~!!!

If having a good pension and money in the bank then you'll be ok,but those with just enough a few years ago and with the £ (and other currencies) dropping let's say 25% over the last few years,they struggle today or have to go back home or elsewhere. 

[BigC]

We will be victorious  in the defeat kf the Nazi  style EU

[spidermike007]

Sorry to say, but the high spending tourists are lost for good. They WILL NOT come back to Thailand, for a dozen different reasons. And there are alot of things they could be doing, if they were capable of reflecting, admitting their gross errors, and correcting course. Start by lowering luxury taxes. And import duty on fine wine. You then give wealthy tourists a reason to come here. They like to spend money, but they do not like being taken for a ride, and charged stupid prices. 

 

I was recently with a group of friends, and we wanted to order a bottle of wine, at of one of those high end restaurants in the EmQuartier complex. It was Bella Rocca Restaurant. I asked about a 2011 Chianti they had on the list. I was told they were out of stock. I asked about a Barbaresco, at 2,600 baht. Again, out of stock. How about this Nebbiolo? Do you have the 2010, as stated on the list? No, we only have the 2015. OK, what is that wine like? Is it drinking well now? I do not know. Is there anyone here that is familiar with this wine list? No. Sorry sir. Wait a minute. You have well over 100 bottles on this list, ranging from 1200 baht to 10,000 baht per bottle, and NOBODY who works here knows anything about the wine? Are you serious? We all just looked at each other, and got up and walked out. We realized the restaurant was a pretender. And more than likely the food was marginal at best. It was all dressed up to look like a very nice Italian restaurant. But, it appeared to be only window dressing. High end tourists have little patience for that lack of quality and lack of service. 

 

But again, the lack of vision, combined with a naive, surly, silly, churlish, and ignorant sense of nationalism, bites the country in the butt. And again, who is the loser? The Thai people. 

The entire country is suffering from a declining tourism industry. And that will not change. It is a permanent declining trend. For a hundred valid reasons. As I stated previously:

 

I have a friend who recently stayed on Samui. He stayed at a resort that has 54 rooms. Normally, they are 100% booked, from about Dec. 20th, to about January 5th. This year, they only had 22 rooms filled. They are down to 60% occupancy for the peak season. Many resorts are experiencing similarly alarming numbers. These hotels counted on the government to support them, when they spend millions on their properties, and the government has let them down, once again. They continue to drop the ball, at every opportunity. The real solution is about encouraging tourists, and ex-pats, from countries that spend real money, to come here and visit. That message seems to have gotten lost, in the fervor to court the Chinese and Indian tourists, many of whom do not spend much money at all here. Though they spend alot of money worldwide, the middle class and wealthy amongst them do not visit Thailand. And if they do visit, they never return. Hotels, restaurants, gift shops, jewelers, galleries, spas, massage shops, bars, and countless other businesses suffer, and will continue to suffer from this extreme myopia, on the part of the officials in charge of tourism. Oh well. Can't say they were not warned. 

 

The neighbors are trying too hard, and making too much effort, and investing money. Thailand is not. Though this topic relates mostly to tourism, in a way it pertains to ex-pats living here too. Thailand is making no steps whatsoever, to improve upon itself. On alot of levels, it feels like it is either standing still, or more than likely going backwards. Frankly, the biggest draw at the moment is being close to my wife's family, the food, the relatively pleasant people. But, I dislike the government, and the level of ignorance being perpetrated by the fabulously inferior educational system here does not appear to bode well for the future of the place. I also despise the practice of face, and the staggering level of cowardice that accompanies that weak, pathetic quality. 

 

It is a real shame, as I find most Thai people to be quite lovely, friendly, warm, helpful and fun to be around. There are many aspects of life here, that I truly enjoy. I am sure many feel the same way. Just wish the country was not moving backwards, (and was instead moving forward under the leadership of progressive minds) due to a system of meritocracy, and a complete lack of forward looking vision. A nice dream indeed.

 

The Thai Army. Moving the country forward? I think not. More like "Moving Thailand backwards at an alarming pace".

 

[IvorBiggun2]

1 hour ago, Bangkok Barry said:

No deal = hard Brexit. So we're in for another 12 months of uncertainty.

Why beat about the bush? A 'Hard Brexit' now and it'll save 12 months of uncertainty. Get the pain over with regard to a 'Hard Brexit' and in 12 months it'll all be behind us. Why delay the inevitable?

[soalbundy]

2 hours ago, timewilltell said:

Well the person you replied to already stated that Britain is part of geographical Europe but goes on to say that at the same time it is somewhat apart from the whole mainland of Europe mindset almost certainly a function of the physical disconnect of the land. I expect over time there will be more of a coming together of culture and mindset but hopefully we do not all run like sheep back into the EU undemocracy.

where is there real democracy in the world? If you asked the many homeless in the UK I don't think it bothers them much. I've worked in the UK and most of my life on the continent, I know where I prefer to live and it isn't in merry old England. The plebs are emotional but they can also be pragmatic once they have let off steam, so yes you will be back in the EU, it's the big club where the future is.