Gated Village Rules

[lelapin]

I have recently joined the committee of a gated village in Pattaya and have assumed the role of secretary. The committee currently have contact details (phone no / email) for less than half the owners of the village and for various reasons I would obviously like to update this. Many houses are rented so just pushing round a circular would not solve the problem. Also I am wondering that even if an owner received a request from the committee, whether they are obliged by Thai law to pass on this information to us.

[lopburi3]

I seriously doubt they have any enforceable obligation to do much and if you are not Thai would be very careful and check with legal counsel that your position is allowed if you do not have a work permit for it.  

[dddave]

I was on a "residents council" for a community in the US so a different set of laws but basically, it was the obligation of the home owner to provide any required information regarding renters.  Since renters were not a part of the association contract they could not be compelled to provide personal information to the council, only to their landlords.  We did have a standard rental agreement attachment that property owners were obligated to use in which renters agreed to comply with community rules and regulations. 

Edited December 31, 2019 by dddave

[neeray]

Throw a party, free booze, must bring a food contribution and your proof of ownership documentation to join the party.

[Golden Triangle]

I live in a gated village also in Pattaya, the committee member that I pay the monthly dues to has my e mail address, we get information on things like planned power outages, loss of city water and other connected issues such as any work or up grades being done in the village & a monthly news letter covering any major issues.

 

I feel sure that if you sent a flyer to each house in Thai & English highlighting the positives as described above you may get a better take up rate. Just my thoughts ????  

[thailand49]

This is very common,  you will also find that those same residents the owners aren't paying their dues? 

[scorecard]

On 12/31/2019 at 4:40 PM, dddave said:

I was on a "residents council" for a community in the US so a different set of laws but basically, it was the obligation of the home owner to provide any required information regarding renters.  Since renters were not a part of the association contract they could not be compelled to provide personal information to the council, only to their landlords.  We did have a standard rental agreement attachment that property owners were obligated to use in which renters agreed to comply with community rules and regulations. 

Thia is Thailand.

[RedPill]

On 12/31/2019 at 11:42 AM, lelapin said:

I have recently joined the committee of a gated village in Pattaya and have assumed the role of secretary.

Don't do it. If you get a chance, get out ... don't ruin your life with 'voluntary' committee things in LOS, it can turn into your living nightmare.

 

 

[Pattaya46]

On 12/31/2019 at 11:42 AM, lelapin said:

Also I am wondering that even if an owner received a request from the committee, whether they are obliged by Thai law to pass on this information to us.

I doubt of that and really hope it's not the case. The way the Committee must contact owners is by publishing information letters/reports in the village (and on Internet if possible), or by sending registered letters for important matters such as AGM.

Unsure why would the Committee would need my phone# or email??

[legend49]

Good luck. Been to those committees. Thai's  dont like change even if it saves them money. Most of the non yearly payers are Thai, they just snub their noses at the fee even after the water meter is removed.

[RichardColeman]

11 minutes ago, legend49 said:

they just snub their noses at the fee even after the water meter is removed

Usually 1 minute into the day you have not paid ! 

[RedPill]

On 12/31/2019 at 11:42 AM, lelapin said:

Also I am wondering that even if an owner received a request from the committee, whether they are obliged by Thai law to pass on this information to us.

I forgot to mention the 'key word', or lack of it ... which I didn't see in your post. Juristic Person.

 

In a nutshell, Thai law, very difficult for moo bans/villages. 

If your village is not registered under a juristic person with the land department ... get out of that committee. Don't do it.

 

I understand condo owners joining committees, if they have a registered juristic person and at least there is the Condo Act for some directions/Thai law.

 

But for a moo baan/village, non existing. Only trouble ... no Thai law or foot to stand on. 

 

Edited January 2, 2020 by RedPill

[lelapin]

5 hours ago, Pattaya46 said:

I doubt of that and really hope it's not the case. The way the Committee must contact owners is by publishing information letters/reports in the village (and on Internet if possible), or by sending registered letters for important matters such as AGM.

Unsure why would the Committee would need my phone# or email??

That is OK if owner lives in the house. What if he has tenants who don't pass on mail to him delivered to the house.

[brianthainess]

You could end up with having to deal with residents complaints....???? run a mile.

[topt]

On 1/2/2020 at 7:18 PM, brianthainess said:

You could end up with having to deal with residents complaints....???? run a mile.

The trouble is everybody in the village took that attitude what then happens to the overall state of said village.......

 

@lelapin I like the idea of @GoldenTriangle and wish our village adopted it. Personally I would much rather receive any information by email.