In the minds of small men, the fish of little thoughts make much commotion, in the minds of giants, the whales of inspiration make hardly a ruffle. 

 

China is finished. By mid April the number of infected Chinese will far exceed the million. Unless there will be a miracle happening.

The WHO can also close down.

9 hours ago, webfact said:

Then the Thais can get back some of the expected 300 billion baht in lost revenues.

Dear Minister Pipat, you really don't seem to notice, you're babbling about astronomical figures again and you're betting on the wrong horse again!

13 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

In the minds of small men, the fish of little thoughts make much commotion, in the minds of giants, the whales of inspiration make hardly a ruffle. 

 

I think the original sounds better ...

 

"In shallow men the fish of little thoughts cause much commotion. In oceanic minds the whales of inspiration make hardly a ruffle".

Sri Yukteswar

12 minutes ago, peterkroll said:

China is finished. By mid April the number of infected Chinese will far exceed the million. Unless there will be a miracle happening.

The WHO can also close down.

Do not underestimate the resilience of the Chinese .....

9 hours ago, webfact said:

Then the Thais can get back some of the expected 300 billion baht in lost revenues.

what is lost it's lost and can't get back..... he's a dreamers, has to get credit for that at least

9 hours ago, webfact said:

But he has said that in the second half of the year twice as many as usual will flood back to Thailand.

I guess he's got to say something so might as well make it double the usual figures!

1 hour ago, aussienam said:

Fine, the Minister if he wants that to happen should implement Martial Law and arrest all farangs and we all should be sent to immigration detention for deportation!  And all investment partnerships and trade from all Western countries withdrawn.  I hope this was just a one off vent of frustration other than a deep seated hatred to white western farang, but maybe there's some truth coming out how they really feel about us?  Plus the conflicting info - one wants us to wear masks, others saying "nothing to worry about"!

The masks are worthless and do nothing to stop the spread of a virus- they are of poor quality and the Western tourists know it.   He might want to hand out a card with tips on it to  avoid crowds; wash hands frequently and seek medical help immediately  if symptoms appear along with  a list of hospitals that will provide free medical  attention.

 

The Government might also inform the Immigration Department to smile and say 'Thanks for Visiting Thailand'  instead of 'Why you come to Thailand so often' and sneering.

 

The Chinese will not be back this year  due to the virus; lost time at work and lost wages. 

 The only thing that can save the tourism industry this year is to encourage Westerners to return by providing multiple entry no charge tourist Visas; lowering the prices of all hotels; allowing entertainment venues to stay open all night and taking the tax off things like wine; export goods and clothes to encourage shopping.

 

 

22 minutes ago, rvaviator said:

I think the original sounds better ...

 

"In shallow men the fish of little thoughts cause much commotion. In oceanic minds the whales of inspiration make hardly a ruffle".

Sri Yukteswar

I stand corrected. A great quote from a giant man, with an oceanic mind and soul. 

I reckon the Thai Government should just quietly remove restrictions on 'zero dollar' tourism.

 

That will bring the Chinese back quick smart. It's true that there'll be no benefit to the Thai economy (all the money going to Chinese interests), but the numbers will bounce back twice as good as before (proving that the Minister is right).

 

All style, no substance!

     While I admire your optimism, Mr. Tourism Minister, and I plan to nominate you for membership in the Hope Springs Eternal Club, what's your Plan B?  While you think the Chinese will be back in record numbers later this year, it's just as likely that they won't. 

     We're well into February and the virus is no way near under control--with nobody knowing when it will be.  Many people, including Chinese, make their travel plans well in advance--I doubt many Chinese are booking any travel anywhere at this point for any time of the year.           The economy in China is likely to be bad for the rest of this year, with all the virus disruptions.  Some Chinese may face long layoffs until everything gets back to normal.  Instead of traveling, many may decide to stay home and save their money.  Some may have already used the money they put aside for travel to cope with expenses from the virus.  If they have lost a love one to the virus, they might not even be in the mood to go somewhere.

      So, optimism aside, you really shouldn't be counting on the Chinese to save your bacon this year.  Instead, you should immediately be doing outreach to other countries--which you should have been doing all along.  I'm sure you're tired of hearing the 'eggs in one basket' litany but, seriously, not a good idea.  Get out there with Plan B and start diversifying the tourist demographic coming to Thailand.  

Haha this must be a comedy channel I'm on its hilarious no references to wiping out this coronivirus money money money number one tragic. 

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Only one good thing I see from that virus is local people start complaining heavily about how their rulers in Thailand and CHina are lying to them.

They will be back as surely as the sun will rise tomorrow. 

I just don't see any cause for optimism other to re assure the locals here, but with cities in lock-down the chinese will be suffering more expenditure and loss of earnings. I see no peak point arriving soon.

The Chinese will be back when the Chinese government decides.

THAILAND the worlds BEST tourist destination, where you can get free lung cancer and also now a free virus, that might require a few weeks in hospital while you are here.

 

Enjoy the great city and site's of Bangkok during the day (masks provided for free) and party at night with a good chance to catch either an STD or the coronavirus (for free).

 

Don’t worry about coughing up a bit of blood at night after a day out in the smog and should you get the virus, the cure is available at reasonable costs.

 

Please come tourists. You are always welcome! But please remember to wear a mask or we will send you away.

 

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Prior to my move to Bangkok, I compiled a list of all the places that you can fly direct to from Swampy (BKK) & > 25% of them are in China (NB, this is not the same as > 25% of flights go to China, just the individual destinations you can fly to be it 1 flight a week or 10 flights a day)...

 

Country	Count	%
China	42	25.5%
Thailand	14	8.5%
India	12	7.3%
Japan	8	4.8%
Vietnam	7	4.2%
Russian Federation	7	4.2%
South Korea	5	3.0%
Australia	4	2.4%
Pakistan	3	1.8%
Laos	3	1.8%
Cambodia	3	1.8%
Germany	3	1.8%
Myanmar	3	1.8%
United Arab Emirates	2	1.2%
Philippines	2	1.2%
Malaysia	2	1.2%
Indonesia	2	1.2%
Taiwan	2	1.2%
Italy	2	1.2%
Bangladesh	2	1.2%
France	2	1.2%
Hong Kong	1	0.6%
Sri Lanka	1	0.6%
Republic of China Taiwan	1	0.6%
Jordan	1	0.6%
Finland	1	0.6%
Kazakhstan	1	0.6%
Iran	1	0.6%
Kenya	1	0.6%
Singapore	1	0.6%
Kuwait	1	0.6%
Switzerland	1	0.6%
Egypt	1	0.6%
Turkmenistan	1	0.6%
Belgium	1	0.6%
Bahrain	1	0.6%
Denmark	1	0.6%
Qatar	1	0.6%
Maldives	1	0.6%
Bhutan	1	0.6%
Mongolia	1	0.6%
Brunei	1	0.6%
Austria	1	0.6%
Sweden	1	0.6%
Nepal	1	0.6%
Israel	1	0.6%
Uzbekistan	1	0.6%
Turkey	1	0.6%
New Zealand	1	0.6%
Ukraine	1	0.6%
Norway	1	0.6%
United Kingdom	1	0.6%
Oman	1	0.6%
Ethiopia	1	0.6%
Netherlands	1	0.6%
Macao	1	0.6%
Grand Total	165	100.0%

 

List of Cities in China you can fly direct to from BKK...

Index	Country	City	Airport	FlightTime	FlightTi:e
38	China	Beihai	BHY	2h 28m	02:28
97	China	Beijing	PEK	4h 40m	04:40
103	China	Changchun	CGQ	5h 0m	05:00
57	China	Changsha	CSX	3h 23m	03:23
47	China	Chengdu	CTU	3h 5m	03:05
58	China	Chongqing	CKG	3h 23m	03:23
59	China	Dayong	DYG	3h 25m	03:25
95	China	Dongsheng	DSN	4h 35m	04:35
63	China	Fuzhou	FOC	3h 30m	03:30
45	China	Guangzhou	CAN	2h 55m	02:55
48	China	Guiyang	KWE	3h 5m	03:05
33	China	Haikou	HAK	2h 13m	02:13
75	China	Hangzhou	HGH	3h 50m	03:50
79	China	Hefei	HFE	4h 0m	04:00
96	China	Jinan	TNA	4h 35m	04:35
39	China	Kunming	KMG	2h 30m	02:30
80	China	Lianyungang	LYG	4h 0m	04:00
81	China	Luoyang	LYA	4h 0m	04:00
68	China	Nanchang	KHN	3h 35m	03:35
76	China	Nanjing	NKG	3h 50m	03:50
35	China	Nanning	NNG	2h 20m	02:20
87	China	Ningbo	NGB	4h 20m	04:20
90	China	Qingdao	TAO	4h 30m	04:30
60	China	Quanzhou	JJN	3h 25m	03:25
31	China	Sanya	SYX	2h 5m	02:05
89	China	Shanghai	PVG	4h 25m	04:25
44	China	Shantou	SWA	2h 50m	02:50
114	China	Shenyang	SHE	5h 45m	05:45
49	China	Shenzhen	SZX	3h 5m	03:05
91	China	Taiyuan	TYN	4h 30m	04:30
98	China	Tianjin	TSN	4h 40m	04:40
116	China	Urumqi	URC	6h 10m	06:10
82	China	Wenzhou	WNZ	4h 0m	04:00
64	China	Wuhan	WUH	3h 30m	03:30
54	China	Wuyishan	WUS	3h 20m	03:20
52	China	Xiamen	XMN	3h 15m	03:15
69	China	Xi'an	XIY	3h 35m	03:35
104	China	Xinzhou	WUT	5h 0m	05:00
83	China	Xuzhou	XUZ	4h 5m	04:05
84	China	Yangzhou	YTY	4h 10m	04:10
85	China	Zhengzhou	CGO	4h 10m	04:10
73	China	Zhongchuan	LHW	3h 45m	03:45

 

T.A.T. has been very quiet lately ,was expecting them to put out a report ,Tourists up 10% ,more coming from...........,

regards worgeordie

Hotels usually run 85% full. They can't double their occupancy once the number of tourists doubles as there is no space.

Similar situation for the rest of the infrastructure. 

 

Business can recoup a small portion but not everything 

Why can't they just shut up and wait  ? 

It's too late to save the businesses now, they will lose millions of baht, talking BS does not help.  

I am an ex pat living in Malaysia and used to ride my motorbike up to Thailand 5 or 6 times a year with a group of friends for between 5 to 14 days we always tour round and usually stay in nice hotels however Thai immigration say we are only allowed to cross the border twice per year without getting a visa from the Thai embassy this never used to be the case and applies to all expats and Singapore bikers this means spending a  day at the embassy then another trip to pick up your passport which effectively means two wasted days  because of this rule change hundreds of bikers are just giving up on Thailand Question - how is this good for tourism

Please mr Minister, tell me what that statement relaise on?

What a joke statement.... The man must have a crystal ball, which needs taking to the repair shop.. The man is pathetic.. 

12 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

That man is delusional. Sad.

The TAT numbers could make that possible....on paper anyway.

1 hour ago, Roulph said:

I am an ex pat living in Malaysia and used to ride my motorbike up to Thailand 5 or 6 times a year with a group of friends for between 5 to 14 days we always tour round and usually stay in nice hotels however Thai immigration say we are only allowed to cross the border twice per year without getting a visa from the Thai embassy this never used to be the case and applies to all expats and Singapore bikers this means spending a  day at the embassy then another trip to pick up your passport which effectively means two wasted days  because of this rule change hundreds of bikers are just giving up on Thailand Question - how is this good for tourism

There is a right hand and a left hand and inbetween is a brain that should coordinate their movements.... but it's asleep.

12 hours ago, bluesofa said:

It does make you wonder how the selection committee for ministers works:

Are they put in a room, given a news report concerning a grave situation, then given fifteen seconds to announce a positive reponse?

15 seconds, come on- it would take 10 times that just to get their brain function moving. 

27,000 per day Chinese visitor shortfall, giving 300,000,000,000 baht shortfall on the year.

 

Baht shortfall divided by Chinese tourist shortfall is 11.1 million baht.

 

Divide that by the year and each Chinese tourist would be expected to contribute around 30,400 baht per day to the economy. Hmm...per day? 30,400?

12 hours ago, ezzra said:

That's what doctors also tells you about gentile herpes...

Not only gentiles get herpes. Jews do too. 

Perhaps you meant to use the word "genital."