webfact Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 China's new coronavirus cases rise to near six-week high By Se Young Lee and Lusha Zhang A resident wearing a face mask is seen at a blocked residential area after the lockdown was lifted in Wuhan, capital of Hubei province and China's epicentre of the novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) outbreak, April 12, 2020. REUTERS/Aly Song BEIJING (Reuters) - China reported the highest number of new daily coronavirus cases in nearly six weeks, driven by a rise in infected travellers arriving from overseas and underscoring challenges Beijing faces in preventing a second wave of COVID-19. A total of 108 new coronavirus cases were reported on Sunday, up from 99 a day earlier and marking the highest number of cases since 143 cases were reported on March 5. The total number of confirmed cases in mainland China now stands at 82,160, while the death toll rose by two to 3,341. The National Health Commission said on Monday that 98 of the new cases were imported involving people entering China from another country, a new record and up from 97 a day earlier. The number of asymptomatic cases fell to 61 from 63 a day earlier. Though the number of daily infections have dropped sharply from the height of the epidemic in February, China has seen the daily toll creep higher after hitting a trough on March 12 as the virus spread globally. Beijing is concerned that infected people entering the country could trigger a second wave and push the country back into a state of near paralysis. The northeast Heilongjiang province, which borders Russia, reported 56 new cases -- 49 from Russia. Chinese cities near the border with Russia said on Sunday they would tighten border controls and quarantine measures on arrivals. The border city of Suifenhe and Harbin, capital of Heilongjiang, said they would require all arrivals from abroad to undergo 28 days of quarantine, as well as nucleic acid and antibody tests. Harbin will also lock down residential units where confirmed and asymptomatic coronavirus cases are found for 14 days. (This story has been refiled to correct milestone date in second paragraph to March 5) (Reporting by Se Young Lee and Lusha Zhang; Editing by Himani Sarkar and Michael Perry) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-04-13 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates
Popular Post Toany Posted April 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2020 Thailand will have the same problem when Thais start returning. 5
Popular Post ivor bigun Posted April 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, Toany said: Thailand will have the same problem when Thais start returning. Or when the Chinese start returning . 17 1 3 1
Popular Post Laza 45 Posted April 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Toany said: Thailand will have the same problem when Thais start returning. ...and every other country.. 3
Popular Post rasmus5150 Posted April 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Toany said: Thailand will have the same problem when Thais start returning. 3 hours ago, Laza 45 said: ...and every other country.. I think it will take at least 8 more months before tourism starts trickling in again. And I'm sure that tourism will not be back to "normal" before 2021 - maybe never. 4
Proboscis Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Laza 45 said: ...and every other country.. Yes, especially as is clear in the article that all but a couple of new cases in China come from outside! 1
Popular Post Laza 45 Posted April 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, rasmus5150 said: I think it will take at least 8 more months before tourism starts trickling in again. And I'm sure that tourism will not be back to "normal" before 2021 - maybe never. I think you are probably right.. the hit to the economy and people's jobs will slow any return to tourism down.. and people have to feel safe again before they will want to jump on a plane.. also who knows what the airline industry will look like after this? Reliable tests and a vaccine will be needed to restore confidence.. I think.. 5
Popular Post 4MyEgo Posted April 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, Laza 45 said: I think you are probably right.. the hit to the economy and people's jobs will slow any return to tourism down.. and people have to feel safe again before they will want to jump on a plane.. also who knows what the airline industry will look like after this? Reliable tests and a vaccine will be needed to restore confidence.. I think.. Agree, going back into the world as we knew it, "free from these types of viruses" is going to be a real slow process, a lot of Thai's have been hit really hard, especially the ones that depended on tourists. From where I am sitting, going on holidays is a thing of the past, will be sitting here waiting to see what comes of any vaccine, if any, before I venture out to have a break from my retirement years ???? 4
Popular Post Cake Monster Posted April 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2020 2 hours ago, rasmus5150 said: I think it will take at least 8 more months before tourism starts trickling in again. And I'm sure that tourism will not be back to "normal" before 2021 - maybe never. Once the Tourists start to vacation around the Globe again, there is going to be a big question asked by each and every one of them. And that question is " Is South East Asia safe now due to its proximity to China - can we be 100% safe " If Thailand courts the Hoards from China as they have in the past, then many Tourists will give a definitive Thumbs down to a vacation in Thailand. This leaves Thailand with only one customer, which is a high risk customer as Covid19 shows 4 1
Popular Post Isaan sailor Posted April 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2020 I don’t believe CCP’s numbers. I don’t believe WHO’s words. And not so sure about numbers from Thailand. 9 2
Popular Post tifino Posted April 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2020 ... and of course the CCP News bureau made the point of blaming overseas (returnees from...) 4 2
Popular Post Susco Posted April 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2020 The OP show exactly what I have been saying since the day China announced they would ease restrictions and allow people to start working again. If you lock a whole country inside their homes for 3 months, of course your new infections will fall. But you never can say, there are no infected people left unless you have tested 1.4 billion of them and even then, so you need only 1 infected person to move outside his residence to start it multiplying again 4
Popular Post Mavideol Posted April 13, 2020 Popular Post Posted April 13, 2020 9 hours ago, webfact said: A total of 108 new coronavirus cases were reported on Sunday, up from 99 a day earlier and marking the highest number of cases since 143 cases were reported on March 5. this is what they report......let's just imagine how many they didn't report 6
Mavideol Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, tifino said: ... and of course the CCP News bureau made the point of blaming overseas (returnees from...) sure, they can't blame Europeans and/or Americans as barely none there anymore 1
ChouDoufu Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Cake Monster said: Once the Tourists start to vacation around the Globe again, there is going to be a big question asked by each and every one of them. And that question is " Is South East Asia safe now due to its proximity to China - can we be 100% safe " If Thailand courts the Hoards from China as they have in the past, then many Tourists will give a definitive Thumbs down to a vacation in Thailand. This leaves Thailand with only one customer, which is a high risk customer as Covid19 shows that will depend on the results of each country's containment methods, and how they prepare for the inevitable second and third waves. some chinese are returning to china, seeing their homeland as a safer place than their current locations, thus the rise in chinese cases from overseas. now almost all their new cases are brought back by returning chinese (essentially no foreigners allowed in), with a few local transmissions. there will likely not be much international tourism for the next couple years, as there will be too many local flare-ups to make definite travel plans more than a few weeks in advance. then there is the threat of 14-day quarantines in both directions that could be reimposed at any time. the question going forward is who are the high-risk customers, and where are the high-risk locations. china absolutely was a high risk zone, but is it still?
timendres Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said: I don’t believe CCP’s numbers. I don’t believe WHO’s words. And not so sure about numbers from Thailand. On 11 April 2020 at 18:00, Thailand announced that 846 additional people met the criteria for PUI, raising the total to 32,830 PUI, as shown in Table 1. https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/situation.php
Traubert Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 36 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said: I don’t believe CCP’s numbers. I don’t believe WHO’s wo rds. And not so sure about numbers from Thailand. Oh there's a thing. ????
Thingamabob Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 The lockdown policy is going to turn out to be a nightmare. 1
Megasin1 Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 and bare in mind that Korea is now reporting 91 cases of re-infected patients, so I wouldn't go counting any chickens with regards to vaccines as it would seem that a vaccine will be useless
FarFlungFalang Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, timendres said: On 11 April 2020 at 18:00, Thailand announced that 846 additional people met the criteria for PUI, raising the total to 32,830 PUI, as shown in Table 1. https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/situation.php Thailand boasts it can test 20,000 people a day so the 32,830 should be cleared up in minimum of 2 days as there would be no logical reason not to unless they are trying to hide numbers by slowing the tests by claiming some excuse or another as they are placed 6th on the global list of countries best prepared to deal with the outbreak.If they don't test much for financial reasons then their boast to be able to test 20,000 per day is false.Why boast you can do that many tests and then don't? 1
FarFlungFalang Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 46 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: The lockdown policy is going to turn out to be a nightmare. Is turning out to be a nightmare. 1
Burma Bill Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 12 hours ago, Toany said: Thailand will have the same problem when Thais start returning. Yes indeed. Most have already returned for "at home" Songkran festivities - wait and see after the next two weeks!
EricTh Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 It does report whether those are Chinese nationals returning or other foreigners going to China.
Tropposurfer Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 Call me a cynic but I don’t believe those numbers. The capacity for chinas leaders to lie is I suggest a given. No I’m not like some whose names I won’t mention who use rhetoric like China Virus. I’m not coming from that place when I say I don’t believe the figures on C19 coming out of China. No one, no one knows how many people in the world are carrying this virus .. not even remotely knowing of real numbers ! Nobody know what the world will look like even months from now let alone years ahead! One thing that we can say is this virus has shown us how totally unprepared on every front we have been to respond. again more of his our ‘leaders’ have failed the people who pay their wages and support the privileged lifestyle they live. Vaccines are at least years away. The BS put out by some world leaders and their mouthpieces, and lots of lay people too is nothing more than projected, false hope. A vaccine will be very very unlikely to be developed in a year or 18 months (said by the vast majority of epidemiologists). It’s BS ... it takes years to develop and produce a vaccine in large quantities... 2 years at least (world expert again).
twocatsmac Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Tropposurfer said: Call me a cynic but I don’t believe those numbers. The capacity for chinas leaders to lie is I suggest a given. No I’m not like some whose names I won’t mention who use rhetoric like China Virus. I’m not coming from that place when I say I don’t believe the figures on C19 coming out of China. No one, no one knows how many people in the world are carrying this virus .. not even remotely knowing of real numbers ! Nobody know what the world will look like even months from now let alone years ahead! One thing that we can say is this virus has shown us how totally unprepared on every front we have been to respond. again more of his our ‘leaders’ have failed the people who pay their wages and support the privileged lifestyle they live. Vaccines are at least years away. The BS put out by some world leaders and their mouthpieces, and lots of lay people too is nothing more than projected, false hope. A vaccine will be very very unlikely to be developed in a year or 18 months (said by the vast majority of epidemiologists). It’s BS ... it takes years to develop and produce a vaccine in large quantities... 2 years at least (world expert again). What a remarkable piece of garbage one has written. Call me a cynic i don’t believe im not like some i won’t mention nobody know what the world will look like one thing that we can say his our leaders have failed the people the bs put out by some world leaders said by the vast majority (world expert again) 1 1
ChouDoufu Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 4 hours ago, EricTh said: It does report whether those are Chinese nationals returning or other foreigners going to China. foreigners currently not allowed to enter china. (possible exception for diplomatic or essential technical like thailand, but cannot verify.) all returnees are tested. positives go to hospital, negatives to 14-day supervised quarantine, with another test before release. similar situation for other chinese provinces receiving chinese from high-risk areas like hubei. only difference is they may be allowed 14-day home isolation. they reported around 100 new cases, most of which were chinese returning from other countries. over half of them were in heilongjiang province, at a border crossing, mostly returnees from vladivostock. another 6 or so cases were in guangdong province.
torturedsole Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 Lockdown isn't a measured response and will continue to prove so. We're already collectively screwed and what awaits us is a nuclear wasteland without the bombs or reactors.
honcho Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Isaan sailor said: I don’t believe CCP’s numbers. I don’t believe WHO’s words. And not so sure about numbers from Thailand. wise, who is a china puppet...
Emeraldisle Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Isaan sailor said: I don’t believe CCP’s numbers. I don’t believe WHO’s words. And not so sure about numbers from Thailand. I have to agree. None of them can be believed
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