China set to lead Thailand's international tourism recovery from August: C9 Hotelworks

[Caldera]

If this is true (and I hope it's not), let's enjoy the peace and quiet while it lasts.

[Almer]

17 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

When was the first outbreak in Thailand....???

Early Jan i do believe which was reported to be the first case outside China,   If wrong i will stand corrected.

[Caine]

China will not exist in 3yrs it will be wiped of the planet by the western nuclear nations after this virus problem is all over. Donald’s finger is hovering over the big red button as we speak. And I for one say good luck to him.

[ChouDoufu]

 

3 hours ago, Dustdevil said:

They're pretty good at shutting down VPN access. Express VPN is continuously updating its connection protocols specific to China.

as i said, it's a game of whack-a-vpn.  the minders randomly shut down access nodes (not sure if correct terminology) daily, causing the vpn's to rotate to the next node.  usually takes 30 seconds to a couple minutes to reconnect.  just something you learn to live with if you want to access the outside world.

 

it's frustrating trying to stream movies, as the reconnect requires to start again and search for the spot you left off.  that's the idea.  make it so annoying that the people will just get worn down and stick to sites that don't require a vpn.

 

and of course the vpn's are constantly updating their software to counter the net nannies' updating of their programs.

 

there are times (hong kong, major party meetings, 1 week of peak wuhan) where vpn's were shut completely, and the various vpn engineers will be working to get through the great firewall once again.  cycle of life thing.

 

don't know if this cannot connect notice is actually from firefox or is a commie counterfeit.

 

 

 

Edited April 21, 2020 by ChouDoufu

[Nanaplaza666]

21 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Be interesting to know if the requirements for a Chinese tourist to enter the country will be the same as those of a farang to enter. Somehow I think non thai, non chinese are about to become 3rd tier

3rd ??? MAYBE 4th after thai , chinese and indians .

[holy cow cm]

1 hour ago, malibukid said:

and on top of that Chinese girls don't party

But some of them sure are hot.

[ChouDoufu]

3 hours ago, Retarded said:

I have been exchanging mails with a highly educated lady for a month now and I am having an impression that the communist indoctrination seems very effective. The problem is the outside world not them. She thinks I'm stupid for being unable to connect 'wechat' and etc. besides Chinese cultural superiority to the west. The firewall works effectively in lieu of religion.  

in that case, it looks like THEIR indoctrination is just as effective as what WE are subjected to.

 

i wonder what she tells her friends about her indoctrinated western friend?

 

 

[Darkside Gray]

We now have the military in command of TAT so it will be ordered to happen!

[aj73]

The math doesn't work. 65% are business/company travelers according to this survey. The current economic decline in China shows it's falling into the Rabbit Hole Alice, basically going to suck wind... Add the current negative global rhetoric and potential economic backlash headed China's way and it just just doesn't seem realistic to project those kinds of numbers. But hey, I guess their Central Bank like all the others out there can print their way out of anything... So who knows.

 

Wait, the WHO doesn't know... 

[Alex 012]

1 hour ago, Caine said:

China will not exist in 3yrs it will be wiped of the planet by the western nuclear nations after this virus problem is all over. Donald’s finger is hovering over the big red button as we speak. And I for one say good luck to him.

China should be bought to its knees,  is trade, travel restriction or nuclear 

 

1.5B less people on the planet appeases the climate cult.

[zippysteve]

I’m sorry someone please help me here, was this article like written as a joke or were they actually serious about this? Currently China has a lot of explaining to do before they ever lead on anything ever again. 

[KhaoYai]

So that's 2 weeks quarantine on entering Thailand + 2 weeks when they get home. Can't see that happening somehow.

[andy72]

i think its fantastic

great idea after all China has licked the virus
Thailands numbers are low

 

just keep out the Europeans Yanks and Brits after all they have so much infection

Thailand can return to normal 

The tourist industry can recover

People get work and money for food

I mean everyone is probably going to die in EU anyway so better focus on the living

 

what is all this nonsense about nuking china

 

For those of you who cannot recall Chernobyl

 

The radioactive rain spread over most of EU and Uk

There were fields in Scotland that were banned from having any sheep or lambs on them for 5 years plus 
i think there was some ban on eating Ayrshire Lamb too

 

So great idea nuke China yeah Thailand is so far away it will not affect you

Ah the great minds of TVF solving the world with their dwindling pensions 
half empty beer glasses 
older and fatter bar girls
cheap cheap

thats why you have no luck with those sexy Chinese girls who are actually pretty wild

 

Edited April 21, 2020 by andy72

[spidermike007]

2 hours ago, Iron Tongue said:

New York, London, even India are warning that covid-19 is pushing the world into a global depression worse than the Great Depression of the 1930's.  

 

Global depression = nobody has money. 

No money = people stop buying <deleted>.

Nobody buying <deleted> = China gets no factory orders.

No factory orders = no money for China

 

Somehow, I don't think the Chinese are going to be vacationing just yet.

 

 

 

There is a tremendous amount of wealth out there. That has barely changed. The wealthy will be traveling big time when all of this is over. However, Thailand has shot itself in the foot so many times when it comes to attracting Westerners, and even more so wealthy ones. Thailand will NOT be on their list. They will be stuck with lower income Indians and Chinese for years to come. You make your bed and then you have to sleep in it!

 

And fewer of them will come, as the people with the least amount of money, are the ones who will be hardest hit by this inane worldwide economic shutdown. 

Edited April 21, 2020 by spidermike007

[spidermike007]

4 hours ago, Jonathan Swift said:

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. I don't think Thailand or anyone else, me included, are going to miss whiners and complainers like yourself. I live here in Bankok and have traveled all over the area including Cambod and Laos, and the Thai people have treated me just fine. The only real a$$ho/es I've ever come across in 7 years have been farang, mostly bad behaving brits. A very  few other nationalities. And the only people who seem to badmouth Thailand on a regular basis have been brits who have gotten into trouble of their own making and want to blame Thailand. So goodbye to you, good riddance. The baht exchange is improving and life is good as far as I'm concerned. It will only get better in Thailand, everything changes and the pendulum swings both ways over time. Thailand has been here a lot longer that you and your forebears, and it will be here long afterward. I'm sure there are plenty of people like me who are happy to come here and maybe stay. So Get over yourself. BTW, I don't followup on topics nor do I read responses to posts, haven't got the time or inclination. I read one news story once, 5 minutes is all you get of my time.

 

Quite lame. Nearly every time I see someone complaining, or observing a shortfall about the policies here, or the culture, some guy who has not taken the time to think things through, nor to devote any time, study, or focus on the issue at hand, says something like "Perhaps Thailand is not for you", or "maybe you should leave", or "it's not fair", or the top prize, "if you do not like it here, go back to your own country". Or in this case, don't let the door hit you on your way out. Good one! Funny. Ever try stand up? I suggest one of the less crowded improv type spots, to avoid the embarrassment. 

 

Why should I leave? Because I have some issues with the place, I am not entitled to complain, or voice my opinions? Half of the posts on this forum are complaints. What is wrong with that? Don't we need someplace to vent? Why the sensitivity? Why such thin skin? Though absolute contentment must be a beautiful thing to be blessed with, it is not something most of us enjoy. The fact that I complain does not mean I do not love Thailand, my lifestyle, and most of the Thai people. It is the government, the army and the administration I have a hard time with. 

 

I have a good life here. But, I do have some issues with the place, as most do, and there are some things I would like to see improved. Do you not see any room for improvement? I should leave because I complain? Lame. You can do better. And frankly, whether of not your read this reply, as you claim you will not (LOL) is of zero concern to me. 

 

[DrTuner]

11 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Nearly every time I see someone complaining, or observing a shortfall about the policies here, or the culture, some guy who has not taken the time to think things through, nor to devote any time, study, or focus on the issue at hand, says something like "Perhaps Thailand is not for you", or "maybe you should leave", or "it's not fair", or the top prize, "if you do not like it here, go back to your own country". Or in this case, don't let the door hit you on your way out. Good one! Funny. Ever try stand up? I suggest one of the less crowded improv type spots, to avoid the embarrassment. 

If you think about it, it's quite clear: to survive without going insane in Thailand you must stick your head in the sand and keep it there. Now there's a problem: your <deleted> is pointing to the sky and inevitably some evil TVF member will come and shove something in just for the hell of it. Would you not be hoping they go away? Nasty reminders of real surroundings.

Edited April 21, 2020 by DrTuner
Bloody autocorrect .. hand->head

[spidermike007]

3 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

If you think about it, it's quite clear: to survive without going insane in Thailand you must stick your hand in the sand and keep it there. Now there's a problem: your <deleted> is pointing to the sky and inevitably some evil TVF member will come and shove something in just for the hell of it. Would you not be hoping they go away? Nasty reminders of real surroundings.

Water off a duck's back! Real men have thick skin, and do not take minor slights personally. The kind of reply I got from Jonathan Swift was like a tiny bit of background noise. Barely a blip on the radar! There are alot of smart guys on this forum, and I see alot of articulate replies. Sometimes!

Edited April 21, 2020 by spidermike007

[RJRS1301]

4 hours ago, Polaky said:

Every time I see a chinese on the street I keep my distance, it's never going to be the way it was before.

So many Thai of Chinese descent, and many look Chinese but definitely Thai born going back many generations

[Baerboxer]

23 hours ago, tropo said:

What Europeans think of Thailand is beside the point. Europe is in the throws of a total economic collapse and the viral outbreak is yet to peak as the UK is fast catching up with Spain, France and Italy. Travelling Europeans to anywhere will be a rarity for years to come.

 

Thailand can thank the lucky stars they have China to fall back on.

 

Possibly.

 

But you forgot all those Indian millionaires and their high spending families just itching to get to Thailand.

[Awa Shuen]

By tighten up the visa restrictions and so, Thailand turned back so many better quality tourists from many countries. Then welcome those cheap china tours keep coming in. They messed up every all-you-can-eat buffet restaurants and only know to shop pharmacies. But never spend a buck in a bar.

Unfortunately, I'm a hk guy, officially part of china. So I'm one of them. I never speak a word or only speak Thai. Everytime I buy food from street vendors I'm nervous about what they think if they know I'm a chinese.

In Pattaya I walked around Soi Buakaw, even Fri/ Sat night, only a few customers in each bar. Westerners number drops leads to less girls work there, my wife told me many of them go back to village and close the shops. Again, you don't see many chinese tourist around that area.

[daveAustin]

Personally don't have an issue with Chinese as long as they behave and don't come in droves. Some of the women are delicate little flowers and very easy on the eye. Problem is - as pointed out time and again - those busloads are hard on the place and typically do not benefit the Thais at all. Anyway, all this is the work of the usual suspects at the top who only care about their pockets and to be seen to be doing a good job. They do not care about their own people.

[offset]

looks like they do test for Covid after death 

 

[MR1888]

Good of China to come to the rescue   

 

Chinese eating habits have brought international travel to a standstill and country after country have devastating death tolls, but they're now planning their next holiday whilst the world suffers. 

[Expat Tom]

Someday the government of Thailand will do a proper cost benefit analysis on tourism in general and Chinese tourism in particular. 

 

The Chinese tourists often pays for their package in China.. They fly on Chinese airlines to Thailand, stay in hotels owned by Thai/Chinese or by heavy Chinese interests. They ride on busses owned by Chinese (or Thai front companies whose beneficial ownership is in China)  to restaurants owned by Chinese and shop in Chinese owned gift shops. The Thai environment and and infrastructure is degraded by bus traffic and the additional bio-load of all of the extra people spending little money in Thailand but consuming water and depositing effluent into the sewage systems out weighs the income produced. 

 

Now, let's look at the expats living in Thailand, many of whom are leaving. I am not a rich expat but I bring 90,000 baht per month into Thailand and spend it all. Hey, I made the money so I enjoy life. There are people on pensions riding bar stools all day long in Pattaya who can barely afford to live a low level life here and there are fortunate folks who own big homes and condos and spend a lot more than I do. So, let''s say that I am kind of middle of the road. My bio-load on Thailand is minimal and my load on the infrastructure is minimal given the amount of money I spend here. 

 

The question remains, why would the Thai government make it hard for me to stay here and instead, court plane loads of Chinese who will bring other misfortune to Thailand with limited financial benefit per captia? The Asian Flu, the Hong Kong flu, SARS, the Swine flu and now the Wuhan Coronavirus (let''s call if for what it is) all came from China   

 

How much more to you want Thailand and for what REAL benefit?  

Why not go for quality with reduced numbers and save your country rather than let the invading swarms form the empire of the North ruin beautiful Thailand.

[DrTuner]

51 minutes ago, offset said:

looks like they do test for Covid after death 

 

When was the last time MoPH announced a COVID death?

 

EDIT: worldometers says 17th of April. He's not included, unless it's the one recorded today. Very unlikely as he would have had to been Confirmed with two PCR tests.

Edited April 21, 2020 by DrTuner

[Isaan sailor]

When the next wave of millions from China arrive—perhaps Thailand can return the favor and re-infect them with Wuhan virus.

[offset]

21 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

When was the last time MoPH announced a COVID death?

 

EDIT: worldometers says 17th of April. He's not included, unless it's the one recorded today. Very unlikely as he would have had to been Confirmed with two PCR tests.

It said he died yesterday maybe only do 1 test because he dead and police wanted him buried today

 

So it might be interesting to see if he included tomorrow

 

The one today was a taxi driver

[Skallywag]

Woa, So many Chinese and even Thai haters in this thread. 

Will consider some posts are unusually vile because of those living with less alcohol and watching too many Contagion and Pandemic movies.

Tourism will recover, life here will recover, but many sacrifices and changes will occur.

 

Glad to read Spidermike comments, as usual

Peace - carry on - and be well 

 

 

[soalbundy]

8 hours ago, Tops said:

I would advise everyone helping your country's economy by spending your holiday in your own country. 

 

Just a famous slogan from the past. Don't ask what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country. Your country needs you.

 

your country (any country) doesn't give feg about you so why bother.

[Blumpie]

On 4/20/2020 at 3:24 AM, Tarteso said:

They are already here!

 

 

Even china isn't going to let people come here and congregate with all kinds of foreigners to go back and shut China down in the middle of a pandemic.  I agree with August, maybe 2021.

 

I mean good god you don't even have to be stupid to realize this.

On 4/20/2020 at 3:24 AM, Tarteso said: