U.S. orders 300 million doses of potential COVID-19 vaccine

[tjinks]

What's in it for Trump. Spending money on something unproven smells fishy.

[kingdong]

3 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Buying riot gear implies a strong likelihood of riots and social breakdown.

The sale of guns implies a higher one.

[nobodysfriend]

4 hours ago, bendejo said:

I find this news disturbing.  I've included 2 links, one to a site with a liberal leaning, the other to the NY Post, which is pretty much a print version of Fox (and part of the Murdoch organization).

https://nypost.com/2020/05/18/federal-government-buying-riot-gear-amid-coronavirus/

https://theintercept.com/2020/05/17/veterans-affairs-coronavirus-security-police/

 

I have to wonder what they are anticipating.  And why is there fear of veterans?

 

 

Looks like they want to be prepared if " social unrest " occurs .

 

Or if people become brain damaged Zombies ...

 

" The federal government has been making expedited orders for riot gear, gas masks and other police-related equipment in response to the coronavirus pandemic, according to multiple disclosures.

Two purchase orders made by the Department of Veterans Affairs, first reported by The Intercept, show requests for gas masks, disposable cuffs, ballistic helmets and riot gloves, as well as protective equipment to be used by federal police guarding VA facilities.

The orders, made in late March and April, are marked as emergency acquisitions as a result of President Trump’s national emergency declaration. The orders also note that each was made under a special authorization “in response to Covid-19 outbreak.”

[Tounge Thaied]

Wait for it... second wave is coming very soon. Take a look at the reports coming out of China. Forced vaccinations are coming... you going to role over like bitch and let Dr. Gates take care of you with his Frankenstein drugs??

[Canuck1966]

3 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Buying riot gear implies a strong likelihood of riots and social breakdown.

Have you seen what the Thai army have been buying??!

[Canuck1966]

16 minutes ago, Tounge Thaied said:

Wait for it... second wave is coming very soon. Take a look at the reports coming out of China. Forced vaccinations are coming... you going to role over like bitch and let Dr. Gates take care of you with his Frankenstein drugs??

No way I'm having a dose of Uncle Bill's lovejuice!

[kamahele]

6 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Trump should talk up this potential vaccine. It would be fun to watch leftists automatically hate it. They literally cannot help themselves.

They only hate it when Trump lies or talks up unproven cures as he does on a daily basis.

[Canuck1966]

51 minutes ago, rupert the bear said:

a vaccine -ummm a virus,its hard to make one,malaria herpes,shingles HIV AIDS?it will take a while.if possible at all.safeguards must be in place as we see the actual mortality figs drop and drop for corona and strong arguements about whos died of it or with it.the vaccine must be less risky than the virus.it must NOT be mandatory.no country has the right to make it law but we have a witches coven of self interest stirring the pot,gates who stands to make a lot of money. the WHO ,the org that has found itself caught up pushing chinas internal and foreign policy whether by accident or not we dont know yet and UN who should be safeguarding our rights and health not undermining them.theres a rush on and that leads to mistakes ,weve seen so many so far with a virus thats killed 300k people.....maybe .in a population of 7 billion plus,caused catastrophic economic damage thats is now looking to be the bigger problem.3rd world countries such as india and pakistan have had to open their econs as more would die of poverty and hunger than the virus,the same in philippines too,which  has a minor problem in comparison to european countries but is ruled by a power crazed authoritarian.we do need to step back from the hysteria and think of our citizens best interest.sadly lacking so far

Seems like you still get infected by this but the symptoms are mild and zero chance of pneumonia

[Emdog]

Did a Nigerian Prince happen to act as middleman on this deal?

 

[steelepulse]

I watched a video about how Bill Gates is tying in vaccines to a digital id which allows governments to track people.  He was a big proponent of Aadhar in India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aadhaar  and his angle is that it will help the poor people of the world.  https://www.gatesnotes.com/Development/Heroes-in-the-Field-Nandan-Nilekani

 

I think I'll pass on these vaccines given by a small patch that goes into the skin and then is tied into a national database.

Edited May 22, 2020 by steelepulse

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, steelepulse said:

I watched a Corbett report video about how Bill Gates is tying in vaccines to a digital id which allows governments to track people.  He was a big proponent of Aadhar in India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aadhaar  and his angle is that it will help the poor people of the world.  https://www.gatesnotes.com/Development/Heroes-in-the-Field-Nandan-Nilekani

 

I think I'll pass on these vaccines given by a small patch that goes into the skin and then is tied into a national database.

More tin foiled hat stuff.

[Eric Loh]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The U.S. government has ordered 300 million doses of a potential COVID-19

If you look into astrazeneca.com site which they have this caveat written that "Astrazeneca recognises that the vaccine may not work but is committed to progressing the clinical progress with speed". Looking at their time-line, clinical trials of AZD1222 began last month (April) to assess safety, immunogenicity & efficacy in over 1,000 healthy volunteers age between 18-65 in Southern England and trial data expected soon and would be move to the next trial stages in number of countries. Unlikely for the vaccine to be ready by October. However in defense of the US Government statement, they did say 'potential' and 'hope' it will be available by October. I do hope that they succeed to develop and make available the vaccine by this year. 

[newnative]

7 hours ago, pegman said:

There must be an angle in this for Trump somehow. There always is.

Yes, the election is the next month--November.  Convenient.  Trump won't care if the vaccine works or not--he's just hoping it will get him re-elected before any vaccine results show up.

[simple1]

5 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Probably has shares in AstraZenaca !!

AstraZenica are the contracted manufacturer for at least 400 million doses of the Oxford Uni developed vaccine, if trials are successful. However, a few days back Oxford Uni announced setbacks of it's vaccine testing program

 

https://indianexpress.com/article/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccine-latest-updates-6419189/

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/21/astrazeneca-could-supply-potential-coronavirus-vaccine-from-september

[malibukid]

Trump is betting that this vaccine will work and promulgate a false sense of security in order to get Americans back to work at any cost.  this is very dangerous and i am sure his base will take the bait at any cost to their lives.  

Edited May 22, 2020 by malibukid

[Taco]

Of course there is an angle. October delivery is the month before the election Nov 3.  He can sit and blab away all day and night about vote for me and get the vaccine.  He gave $1 Billion USD of tax payers dollars on this contract .  Obvious election fraud as the vaccine is unproven.

[Crazy Alex]

34 minutes ago, Taco said:

Of course there is an angle. October delivery is the month before the election Nov 3.  He can sit and blab away all day and night about vote for me and get the vaccine.  He gave $1 Billion USD of tax payers dollars on this contract .  Obvious election fraud as the vaccine is unproven.

I wonder if the Democrats will include that in Impeachment 2.0. Or will there be a 3.0 as well?

[bluedoc]

8 hours ago, bendejo said:

I find this news disturbing.  I've included 2 links, one to a site with a liberal leaning, the other to the NY Post, which is pretty much a print version of Fox (and part of the Murdoch organization).

https://nypost.com/2020/05/18/federal-government-buying-riot-gear-amid-coronavirus/

https://theintercept.com/2020/05/17/veterans-affairs-coronavirus-security-police/

 

I have to wonder what they are anticipating.  And why is there fear of veterans?

 

 

Check out BBC news yesterday. Uk has ordered 30 million.

[steelepulse]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

More tin foiled hat stuff.

Yep, over 1 billion people in India agree with you.

[Pedrogaz]

If true, Brits will wait years for the vaccine from a British company. They should cancel all tax breaks for Astra Zeneca. 

[mikebike]

I have not read the entire thread... pg 01 was just an echo chamber of thoughts already stated ad infinitum.

 

My thought is WHAT?

 

Why would any one or any nation be ordering million, 10s of millions, or hundreds of millions of anything which is, as of today, unproven in doing what it is asked to do?

 

This is what seed money for research is for.

[JulesMad]

This 'news' comes from usa, so several truckloads of salts are necessary.

[Berti]

7 hours ago, rupert the bear said:

a vaccine -ummm a virus,its hard to make one,malaria herpes,shingles HIV AIDS?it will take a while.if possible at all.

You can't compare. There is already years of research about other Corona viruses.

And Corona viruses are really only a flu / a cold, the problem is it's much more dangerous for 5-10% of the people.

[xylophone]

10 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

I think you have it wrong. People and organizations prepare now so they don't have to be afraid later. The people who don't prepared often up being afraid later.

It's a pity that the US didn't prepare earlier, which would have saved tens of thousands of lives, instead the "un-stable genius" denied and delayed long past the time in late January, early February when the virus was first recognised as being capable of causing a pandemic, saying that it was just like the flu and it would mysteriously disappear come April. What a loser.....

 

This from the NY Times:

According to new estimates from Columbia University, if the U.S. had started social distancing measures one week earlier, about 36,000 fewer people would have died by early May. Make it two weeks, and about 54,000 lives — 83 percent — would have been saved.
 

[xylophone]

11 minutes ago, Berti said:

You can't compare. There is already years of research about other Corona viruses.

And Corona viruses are really only a flu / a cold, the problem is it's much more dangerous for 5-10% of the people.

Also of course is the fact that despite these coronaviruses being known about for decades, there has not been one truly successful vaccine produced which can stop the infection – – doesn't give one a lot of hope!

[mrfill]

I expect Mt T will be promoting this as a fabulous British developed and wunnerful British made vaccine by a fantastic British company.

 

Some words may get a bit 'lost' in translation though....

[3NUMBAS]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/end-pandemic-sight-500-mersey-18293171

 

'End of the pandemic' in sight as 500 Mersey health staff test new coronavirus vaccine

This is a major development in the treatment that could save millions of lives and restore normal life

[metisdead]

A post using ALL CAPS has been removed. 

[Srikcir]

"made available by October" vs "available vaccine by 2021"

????

A cororavirus vaccine cannot be reasonably expected until the end of 2021.  https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/04/a-coronavirus-vaccine-wont-be-ready-untl-end-of-2021-professors-says.html

Someone in the US government seems to be depending on warp speed politics instead of medical science to boost the US economy before the November 2020 election. 

 

[sirineou]

8 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

"made available by October" vs "available vaccine by 2021"

????

A cororavirus vaccine cannot be reasonably expected until the end of 2021.  https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/04/a-coronavirus-vaccine-wont-be-ready-untl-end-of-2021-professors-says.html

Someone in the US government seems to be depending on warp speed politics instead of medical science to boost the US economy before the November 2020 election. 

 

My understanding.

An Untested vaccine is available right now.  What the US has done is purchase 300 million doses so that manufacturing of the untested vaccine can start now and be ready by late fall for distribution if tests prove positive by then,  if not it will be destroyed or stored for other uses.  In other words we are getting a jump  on the process.

Edited May 22, 2020 by sirineou