1 July for the lifting of all lockdowns

[Puccini]

17 minutes ago, Why Me said:

You can bet the airlines will be insisting on fairly rigorous proof of health before they board someone on an 8-hour flight. Maybe a reliable C-19 negative test within 48 hours. Maybe even rapid testing at the airport.

What is a C-19 test?

[CLS]

2 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said:

Could be specifics visas for only few people

not massive tourists visas

if you read your link, at the 5th paragraph 

''Around 1000 skilled foreign specialists are expected to enter the country and

be quarantined in early june before being deployed at oil and steel project in Quang Ngai province''

Imo it does not make sense to do that if you plan to open the country to massive tourism some days later

No contradiction so far.

I wrote they open their borders for 80 countries. Requirements not known yet. 

Right now they are only open for VNs, diplomats and experts.

[Puccini]

26 minutes ago, reallyaffiliated said:

I think so as well. Emirates and a few other airlines already have 10 minute tests in place.

What exactly does the 10 minute test of Emirates and a few other airlines prove?

[Why Me]

11 minutes ago, Puccini said:

What is a C-19 test?

Apparently, there's this global pandemic raging which I heard about recently myself. It's a virus called Covid-19, don't ask me why. You might have seen people on the street wearing masks. That's because of C-19.

Edited May 28, 2020 by Why Me

[kingofthemountain]

6 minutes ago, Why Me said:

It's a virus called Covid-19, don't ask me why.

covid is the acronym for corona virus disease

19 is the reference to the year its first emerged (2019)

[Puccini]

9 minutes ago, Why Me said:

Apparently, there's this global pandemic raging which I heard about recently myself. It's a virus called Covid-19, don't ask me why. You might have seen people on the street wearing masks. That's because of C-19.

I have heard of Covid-19, the disease caused by SARS-CoV-2, but what is C-19?

[champers]

I think there will be a staged phasing for allowing tourists into Thailand without the need for quarantine. China, S Korea, Japan, Taiwan, HK and Singapore will be first in, possibly with Aussies and Kiwis. The rest will be as and when they have no infections or deaths from the virus over a sustained period.

[Why Me]

24 minutes ago, Puccini said:

I have heard of Covid-19, the disease caused by SARS-CoV-2, but what is C-19?

It's a mutated version of Covid-19 with a shorter hematopoietic footprint but equally lethal.

[Ayemanomad]

2 hours ago, twocatsmac said:

Finnair ?

Take some butties cock. 

 I prefer chicken butties myself. 

[tribalfusion001]

1 hour ago, HerbyJFlash said:

I can’t believe I’m actually saying it , but as I am from the U.K and can’t see us ever becoming a non high risk country, (we eased lockdown today despite still having 8,000 infections a day) I actually hope thailand make me quarantine rather than ban me entirely.

 

What a mess the U.K. government have made and are making ...

UK is one of the 80 countries for Vietnam e-visa form 1st July, no reason why Thailand won't do the same.

Edited May 28, 2020 by tribalfusion001

[Adelphi]

1 hour ago, HerbyJFlash said:

I can’t believe I’m actually saying it , but as I am from the U.K and can’t see us ever becoming a non high risk country, (we eased lockdown today despite still having 8,000 infections a day) I actually hope thailand make me quarantine rather than ban me entirely.

 

What a mess the U.K. government have made and are making ...

Hi Herby.  Where did you get the 8,000 figure from.  The latest figure issued by the UK Government today is 1,887 new people recorded as bring infected.  I agree not good but on an improving trend and way better than 8,000.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

[tribalfusion001]

1 minute ago, Adelphi said:

Hi Herby.  Where did you get the 8,000 figure from.  The latest figure issued by the UK Government today is 1,887 new people recorded as bring infected.  I agree not good but on an improving trend and way better than 8,000.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

It's the estimated amount without needing testing, Whitty or Vallance mentioned it today. The trend for serious cases is going downwards and ICU patients also.

[Adelphi]

Obviously we need more clarity but they are now talking about letting us return to Thailand.  At the very least I am counting it as a step in the right direction even if I am not holding my breath regarding getting a flight back in July.  

[tribalfusion001]

5 minutes ago, Adelphi said:

Obviously we need more clarity but they are now talking about letting us return to Thailand.  At the very least I am counting it as a step in the right direction even if I am not holding my breath regarding getting a flight back in July.  

I'll wait for things to calm down and open up. I don't fancy QR codes to enter malls, shops and bars. I quite fancy Saigon, KL and Penang if Thailand doesn't fully open up.

[HerbyJFlash]

@Adelphi What “tribalfusion001” said in regard to the 8,000. Hopefully though, the 1,887 number is what countries like Thailand would be looking at.

 

Yes I guess some sort of positive step. We can now monitor what is happening with other tourists and travellers. 
 

My guy feeling is October if we manage to avoid second wave . But I really don’t understand Boris thinking in easing the lockdown. Get people back to work and economy moving - fine , having bbqs and going to the park etc should still not be allowed and the rules are clearly being ignored and barely enforced. 

[tribalfusion001]

4 minutes ago, HerbyJFlash said:

@Adelphi What “tribalfusion001” said in regard to the 8,000. Hopefully though, the 1,887 number is what countries like Thailand would be looking at.

 

Yes I guess some sort of positive step. We can now monitor what is happening with other tourists and travellers. 
 

My guy feeling is October if we manage to avoid second wave . But I really don’t understand Boris thinking in easing the lockdown. Get people back to work and economy moving - fine , having bbqs and going to the park etc should still not be allowed and the rules are clearly being ignored and barely enforced. 

There is nothing else to do and this country is boring at the best of times. The last 2 months here have been so dull, I knew I should of stayed in Thailand. The virus is not that widespread and mostly in care homes now. If you have no serious underlying problems then it's not a problem being in the park and having a bbq. I've cycled to a local castle and drank beer on my own, sat in the local park and drank some beer, went to London and sat in Hyde park last week drinking with a friend.

 

Everything should be opened up again, pub beer gardens are fine to start with and shops with less capacity.

[HerbyJFlash]

26 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

There is nothing else to do and this country is boring at the best of times. The last 2 months here have been so dull, I knew I should of stayed in Thailand. The virus is not that widespread and mostly in care homes now. If you have no serious underlying problems then it's not a problem being in the park and having a bbq. I've cycled to a local castle and drank beer on my own, sat in the local park and drank some beer, went to London and sat in Hyde park last week drinking with a friend.

 

Everything should be opened up again, pub beer gardens are fine to start with and shops with less capacity.

At the risk of going too off topic ...

out R Number is 0.7-0.9. Relaxing measures will surely make this going up. 
 

If they are happy with it at 1 they are basically saying they are happy with the infection rates and level it’s at . And therefore we won’t be travelling anywhere any time soon.

[tribalfusion001]

3 minutes ago, HerbyJFlash said:

At the risk of going too off topic ...

out R Number is 0.7-0.9. Relaxing measures will surely make this going up. 
 

If they are happy with it at 1 they are basically saying they are happy with the infection rates and level it’s at . And therefore we won’t be travelling anywhere any time soon.

Europe will be open to us soon and the Asian countries will need the tourist cash. Apart from non essential shops, bar and restaurants most things are open. The R rate has been steady since the easing starting, Europe is the same. I think all this 2nd wave stuff is blown out of proportion, bit like the pandemic in general.

 

Some things will take time to go back to normal, I still think Thailand will be around September/October time. Even when it opens up it will take months for the tourist resorts to fill up, but I stay in BKK around Ratchada soi 17 when I'm there, so things will be ok for me.

[Vigilante]

Don't expect the masses to return for a year or two

Assuming there are no second/third waves etc

I  noticed ,since restaurants properly re-opened, customers are thin on the ground.

..and these are thais refusing to visit and eat at places they are very familiar with, in their own country.

 

 

 

[HerbyJFlash]

51 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Europe will be open to us soon and the Asian countries will need the tourist cash. Apart from non essential shops, bar and restaurants most things are open. The R rate has been steady since the easing starting, Europe is the same. I think all this 2nd wave stuff is blown out of proportion, bit like the pandemic in general.

 

Some things will take time to go back to normal, I still think Thailand will be around September/October time. Even when it opens up it will take months for the tourist resorts to fill up, but I stay in BKK around Ratchada soi 17 when I'm there, so things will be ok for me.

Tourism seems to make up around 12ish % of the economy as far as I can tell. 
 

Chinese are 55% of tourists. If you add “low risk” countries maybe your at around 65-70% of tourists. That means your at 8.4% out of the 12% .

 

Is the remaining 3.5 ish % of the tourism sector made up of high risk counties worth gambling all that for?

 

Im sure it’s not that simple and my figures aren’t right but still ...

[tribalfusion001]

9 minutes ago, HerbyJFlash said:

Tourism seems to make up around 12ish % of the economy as far as I can tell. 
 

Chinese are 55% of tourists. If you add “low risk” countries maybe your at around 65-70% of tourists. That means your at 8.4% out of the 12% .

 

Is the remaining 3.5 ish % of the tourism sector made up of high risk counties worth gambling all that for?

 

Im sure it’s not that simple and my figures aren’t right but still ...

It was 21.6% for travel and tourism in 2018, so quite a hefty lump of GDP. https://knoema.com/atlas/Thailand/topics/Tourism/Travel-and-Tourism-Total-Contribution-to-GDP/Contribution-of-travel-and-tourism-to-GDP-percent-of-GDP

 

It will take time to build up again as the resorts are mostly devoid of tourists now.

Edited May 28, 2020 by tribalfusion001

[Puccini]

2 hours ago, Why Me said:

It's a mutated version of Covid-19 with a shorter hematopoietic footprint but equally lethal.

I can assure you that C-19 definitely does not mean Covid-19 and that nobody in his right mind searching for information related to Covid-19 would use C-19 as the keyword.

 

I always assumed that somebody writing on a forum does so with the intention of having his posts understood by the readers.

[faraday]

Gosh, Puccini, you're sooo clever.

[Why Me]

1 hour ago, Vigilante said:

..and these are thais refusing to visit and eat at places they are very familiar with, in their own country.

Restaurants are getting busier. It's just taking time for people to hit their old stride. And those partitions are darned awkward. And makes no sense for a party that came together, presumably from the same office or in the same vehicle, to put on nosebags divided by plexiglass. But I see customers  pushing them away on their own.

 

There were Thais on the street past couple of days without masks as well. Which indicates a general loosening up. But we need the generals to loosen up as well (hey, pun). But those jackasses like the Emergency power trip too much.

Edited May 28, 2020 by Why Me

[bodga]

5 hours ago, HerbyJFlash said:

How will we get Covid insurance

buy  it  now in  Thailand 3-4-5-600 baht

[HerbyJFlash]

1 hour ago, bodga said:

buy  it  now in  Thailand 3-4-5-600 baht

Doesn’t help if you need it on arrival . The policies I’ve seen in Thailand are for expatriates and thais too.

[NCC1701A]

5 hours ago, HerbyJFlash said:

My guy feeling is October if we manage to avoid second wave .

I don't swing that way but my girl feeling can't wait until October. 

Edited May 29, 2020 by NCC1701A

[JohnBZ]

Thailand had better to loosen up July 1.  Vietnam is open on that day for foreign tourists.  if Thailand does not do the same, people will start going to vietnam. 

 

It is already safe now.  Your chance is getting corona virus is less than traffic accident. Dying from corona virus is less than winning a lottery.

 

 

[DaLa]

14 minutes ago, JohnBZ said:

Thailand had better to loosen up July 1.  Vietnam is open on that day for foreign tourists.  if Thailand does not do the same, people will start going to vietnam. 

 

It is already safe now.  Your chance is getting corona virus is less than traffic accident. Dying from corona virus is less than winning a lottery.

 

 

If I won the lottery 3 weeks ago , does that mean I'm safe from Covid-19?  I'm additionally concerned because the win wasn't all that great a sum.

[Keyser Soze666]

7 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

There is nothing else to do and this country is boring at the best of times. The last 2 months here have been so dull

I honestly thought you were talking about Thailand. You really believe the UK is boring compared to Thailand?