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Bang Saen: Bangkok residents to blame for filthy beach, say traders

 

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Traders in seaside resort Bang Saen and the news media  have pointed the finger of blame at filthy Bangkokians for messing up their beach. 

 

77kaoded said that the trash that plagues the popular resort in Chonburi mostly flows out of rivers like Bangkok's Chao Phraya and nearby Bang Pakong. 

 

It is then blown back on the tourist beaches during the monsoon season. 

 

Rubber ring trader Wiphak, 56, said that the locals were learning to be clean and tidy and tourists were clearing up after themselves. 

 

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Bangkok was to blame, he said, and possibly a few people who tossed trash in the sea from boats.

 

Local mayor Narongchai "Tui" Khunpluem went on Facebook to tell tourists to expect the worst when they visit during the rainy season.

 

He sent his teams out at the weekend to clear up as much as they could from the early morning hours. 

 

Members of the public were also collecting plastic bottles for recycling, said the media. 

 

Source: 77 kaoded

 

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The Asian system of waste disposal into waterways effects severely Thailand's beaches. Trash thrown into Bangkok klongs ends up in the sea. The tides push the trash to beaches. Until the populations of Thailand, Myanmar, Bangladesh and India change the system of waste disposal this will be an ongoing issue. All the beach goers can do is clean the mess up.

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33 minutes ago, webfact said:

Rubber ring trader Wiphak, 56, said that the locals were learning to be clean and tidy and tourists were clearing up after themselves. 

A rubber ring trader?

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We all know what the problem is,lack of education and infrastructure to handle the waste. These coastal communities that rely on tourism should invest in some beach cleaning equipment with some funding from the government. Thailand has some beautiful beaches,but due to the lack of cleaning they are terrible. Get them out there before the tourists arrive,clean up the beaches and make them beautiful. We can all blame someone else for our problems. But in the end you need to do what’s best for you and the community you live in. Arrived in phuket for a holiday,first beach I pulled up at was Karon. Driving along the road looking at the shops and restaurants,getting glimpses of the ocean through the small sand dunes was really nice. Decided to pull over go for a walk along the beach and then grab a meal. After walking to the beach took one look at it and thought is this it,absolute <deleted> for a beach in a tourist area. Rubbish everywhere,logs,branches,plastic bottles. Did a quick you turn and <deleted> off,the amount of money the phuket authorities must have made over the years must have been huge. Yet no real thought or planning went into maintaining one of their best assets.

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Seems like they've learned (or started reading ThaiVisa) and have figured out where all the trash is really coming from. Before they tried to blame it all on the (few) vendors the first day they re-opened the beach, ignoring the rather obvious evidence of most of trash being in a neat line along the high tide mark.

From the headline, I thought they were going to blame it all on people from Bangkok who came down to visit the beach on the weekend.

Boats off shore have been dumping their trash in the water for decades and I can imagine how much must come out of the Chao Praya (and other rivers) in the area. "Flowing water = free garbage removal" for a lot of people. Why pay to have it removed when you can just chuck it in the canal/river/ocean and it magically disappears.

It's not a problem that's going to go away on it's own, or any time soon. One more reason to stay out of the water. Further south it seems better, probably because the currents wash most of the trash up close to where it enters the water so less makes it down to the far end of the beaches in Rayong/Chanthaburi/Trat/Koh Chang.


 

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1 hour ago, asiaexpat said:

The Asian system of waste disposal into waterways effects severely Thailand's beaches. Trash thrown into Bangkok klongs ends up in the sea. The tides push the trash to beaches. Until the populations of Thailand, Myanmar, Bangladesh and India change the system of waste disposal this will be an ongoing issue. All the beach goers can do is clean the mess up.

and why should beach goers clean up a mess caused by something that they, or anyone cant control??

I would NOT clean any **it of a beach....it is up to local councils to clean.....

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1 hour ago, Titan1962 said:

We all know what the problem is,lack of education and infrastructure to handle the waste. These coastal communities that rely on tourism should invest in some beach cleaning equipment with some funding from the government. Thailand has some beautiful beaches,but due to the lack of cleaning they are terrible. Get them out there before the tourists arrive,clean up the beaches and make them beautiful. We can all blame someone else for our problems. But in the end you need to do what’s best for you and the community you live in. Arrived in phuket for a holiday,first beach I pulled up at was Karon. Driving along the road looking at the shops and restaurants,getting glimpses of the ocean through the small sand dunes was really nice. Decided to pull over go for a walk along the beach and then grab a meal. After walking to the beach took one look at it and thought is this it,absolute <deleted> for a beach in a tourist area. Rubbish everywhere,logs,branches,plastic bottles. Did a quick you turn and <deleted> off,the amount of money the phuket authorities must have made over the years must have been huge. Yet no real thought or planning went into maintaining one of their best assets.

Thing is they don't have anyone to clean their beaches.  It usually ends up being volunteer expats.

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Mention of India reminded me of the many helicopter trips made from our project site to Mumbai from 1999 to 2001. Approaching Mumbai from the south, over the sea, a line could be seen between the clear waters of the Indian Ocean and the murky waters close to Mumbai. Didn't even need to see the line as the smell, even at a height of about 2,000 feet or so, provided all the evidence needed.

 

We would overnight at a hotel adjacent to Juhu Beach and the rubbish left by the local day trippers had to be seen to be believed. A dip in the sea definitely not on any list of 'must do's'!! 

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What do they expect when there are no public bins or trash cans? Other nations have clean roads and beaches because they are public bins nearly every 100-200m.

When was the last time you saw a public bin even in Bangkok streets? You can walk Sukhumvit road maybe find 1-2 public bins the entire stretch. And then its usually full because the council has not paid anyone (or pocketed the money for themselves) to empty trash cans.

 

The local mayor should install bins and have them collected! If the locals are annoyed, well then leave some bins there. It will save them time having to clean up afterwards.

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3 hours ago, anchadian said:

And not any mention of foreigners, well that does surprise me.

even dirty foreigners don't go there because of the garbage

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Pattaya has moved beach rd trash bins across the street , those poor Locals now have an extra 5 steps to throw out all the plastics and foam from their somtum feast...no way will anyone walk across beach rd and risk getting killed by a speeding police officer late for work...by the way, any news on the homeless woman killed while crossing beach rd at 2 am during the curfew????

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34 minutes ago, song0674 said:

What do they expect when there are no public bins or trash cans? Other nations have clean roads and beaches because they are public bins nearly every 100-200m.

When was the last time you saw a public bin even in Bangkok streets? You can walk Sukhumvit road maybe find 1-2 public bins the entire stretch. And then its usually full because the council has not paid anyone (or pocketed the money for themselves) to empty trash cans.

 

The local mayor should install bins and have them collected! If the locals are annoyed, well then leave some bins there. It will save them time having to clean up afterwards.

Very true most places in the country.  They have placed numerous cans on Beach Rd. in Pattaya and things are indeed cleaner with less rats. 

Public restroooms is another one but probably too much maintenance and in some towns people would go there for sexual activity or LB hideouts.

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If they did all that is visible on the pictures, they must have been smashing wooden boats to pieces and also made up magic words that collect all the garbage floating in the ocean. Yep, nevermind. It´s their fault!

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Most of the rubbish is brought by the tides and fed by the main rivers as main culprits. With no effective national waste disposal, basically all rubbish will end up in the air we breath, or sooner or later in the oceans.  

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8 hours ago, essox essox said:

and why should beach goers clean up a mess caused by something that they, or anyone cant control??

I would NOT clean any **it of a beach....it is up to local councils to clean.....

Redundant.

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Two months ago is was, "Foreign Tourist Trash Beaches" and before that it was "Chinese Tourist Trash Beaches." 

Funny what happens when the Chinese disappear and then all foreign tourists disappear.  Then there is nobody left so it's, "Bangkok Tourist Trash Beaches."

If Bangkok disappeared, who'd they blame then?  Probably "Cambodia Trashes Breaches" is my guess. 
That trash probably originates where it's found.  Bang Saen.

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11 hours ago, connda said:

Funny what happens when the Chinese disappear and then all foreign tourists disappear.  Then there is nobody left so it's, "Bangkok Tourist Trash Beaches."

At last, theey have figured it out. It isn't the foreigners who are flying in with suitcases loaded up with trash.

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21 hours ago, webfact said:

77kaoded said that the trash that plagues the popular resort in Chonburi mostly flows out of rivers like Bangkok's Chao Phraya and nearby Bang Pakong

Thai style recycling !

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