A new PC desktop for my home.

[stouricks]

3 hours ago, JaiMaai said:

With any semi-capable PC, you should expect to get over 900 Mbps real-world speeds. 

That's if you pay for a 1Gb/s package.

[KhunHeineken]

Thanks to the members that replied to my question, but I think I may have badly worded what I was trying to ask.

 

For example, can a Core i7 process data faster than 100Mbs download internet?  Can a Core i7 process data faster than 1Gbs download internet?

 

At 100Mbs and 1Gbs download internet speed by your ISP, is the slowest link in the chain the internet coming down the line, or the computer processor?

 

If it's the processor, I notice they now have Core i9.  What sore of processor would it take to make 100Mbs and 1Gbs download internet speed the bottle neck?  

 

 

[KhunHeineken]

On 8/21/2020 at 11:10 AM, KhunHeineken said:

Thanks to the members that replied to my question, but I think I may have badly worded what I was trying to ask.

 

For example, can a Core i7 process data faster than 100Mbs download internet?  Can a Core i7 process data faster than 1Gbs download internet?

 

At 100Mbs and 1Gbs download internet speed by your ISP, is the slowest link in the chain the internet coming down the line, or the computer processor?

 

If it's the processor, I notice they now have Core i9.  What sore of processor would it take to make 100Mbs and 1Gbs download internet speed the bottle neck?  

 

 

Anyone know?  Was thinking of a laptop upgrade, probably to Core i9, but no point if 100Mbs internet speed is the bottle neck.  

[JaiMaai]

What is the make and model of the laptop? In many modern laptops, a CPU upgrade isn't really practical.

[JaiMaai]

2 hours ago, JaiMaai said:

What is the make and model of the laptop? In many modern laptops, a CPU upgrade isn't really practical.

Ignore me...

 

Rereading the post made me realize you probably mean a new laptop, not upgrading an old one.

[techietraveller84]

21 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Anyone know?  Was thinking of a laptop upgrade, probably to Core i9, but no point if 100Mbs internet speed is the bottle neck.  

i7 and i9 come in a range of power beyond just those labels. But in general, an i7 should be able to handle your internet traffic with ease. The bottleneck generally isn't the i7.

 

The bottleneck can be your WiFi system, which slows speeds down, or a variety of computer settings or an aged operating system. It could also be your provider. If you are experiencing speed issues, your provider should have a speed test on their website. Do the speed test two ways: once with Wifi (if that's what you usually use) and then with a cable. The test may indicate you need a faster router.

 

Here are a couple articles with more explanations and good info:

 

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/intel-core-i7-vs-i9/

 

https://www.allconnect.com/blog/consumers-guide-to-internet-speed

[OneeyedJohn]

Parcel Status Arrived in destination country; awaiting customs clearance

 

_{^{Cleared customs yesterday afternoon}}

 

_{^{Woo Hoo}}

_{^{Expensive month this one, new tryres & valves, chain and sprocket for the bike, and now Win10 and sundries for te computer.}}

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Edited August 28, 2020 by OneeyedJohn

[Eindhoven]

1 hour ago, OneeyedJohn said:

Parcel Status Arrived in destination country; awaiting customs clearance

 

_{^{Cleared customs yesterday afternoon}}

 

_{^{Woo Hoo}}

_{^{Expensive month this one, new tryres & valves, chain and sprocket for the bike, and now Win10 and sundries for te computer.}}

_{^{At least the wife's mangoes are selling like hot cakes.}}

 

 

 

Windows 10 doesn't cost anything. 

[transam]

6 minutes ago, Eindhoven said:

 

Windows 10 doesn't cost anything. 

Thought a genuine, no ploblem one did...?

Reveal all......????

[JaiMaai]

You can install a fully genuine copy of W10, downloaded direct from Microsoft, and use it normally without activating.  You may lose some cosmetic features and personaliztion but the OS is [otherwise] fully functional.

Edited August 28, 2020 by JaiMaai
added the word "otherwise"

[Eindhoven]

4 hours ago, transam said:

Thought a genuine, no ploblem one did...?

Reveal all......????

 

You might remember that someone helped you to install genuine Windows 7 some time ago. It's free to upgrade from genuine Windows 7. You don't need to install it over the top of the old system, you can run a clean install.

In addition to this, as JaiMaai has mentioned, you don't even need to activate Windows 10 in order to be able to use it.

[transam]

10 minutes ago, Eindhoven said:

 

You might remember that someone helped you to install genuine Windows 7 some time ago. It's free to upgrade from genuine Windows 7. You don't need to install it over the top of the old system, you can run a clean install.

In addition to this, as JaiMaai has mentioned, you don't even need to activate Windows 10 in order to be able to use it.

Yes I do remember, a splendid fellow helped me out....

 

About six months back my PC went up the wall, couldn't fix it, so took it to a big name store to take a look, they said W10 is "stuffed", we can install W10 for you, 300 bht.

 

 

Of course, I said, do it. Been OK ever since. I checked it was "genuine", it says...

"Windows is activated using your orginisations activation service", which I assume is tied to this company. ????

[Beni8910]

The cpu definitely isn't a bottleneck for those speeds. 1000Mbits is really only 120MBytes per sec

I have a usb stick that can go harder than that. 

 

Your only limitation is your networking capabilities; router, WIFI AC or above and the wifi card or Ethernet capabilities in the laptop.  

 

AMD ryzen "4000" cpus are currently the highest performing mobile cpu's available atm 

[Eindhoven]

4 hours ago, transam said:

Yes I do remember, a splendid fellow helped me out....

 

About six months back my PC went up the wall, couldn't fix it, so took it to a big name store to take a look, they said W10 is "stuffed", we can install W10 for you, 300 bht.

 

 

Of course, I said, do it. Been OK ever since. I checked it was "genuine", it says...

"Windows is activated using your orginisations activation service", which I assume is tied to this company. ????

 

Yes, the fellow that you made put you on ignore for your senseless attacks. Anyway, bygones.

 

KMS activation. The software hack they use has a script that runs every six months to renew itself.

[OneeyedJohn]

Fingers crossed I am doing it today.

[JaiMaai]

Good luck.

 

CPU and SSD?

[OneeyedJohn]

2 hours ago, JaiMaai said:

CPU and SSD?

sorted, AM3+ socket, but it works.

 

Waiting to get Win10 activation key before clean install.

[JaiMaai]

You can proceed with the install without the key.

 

When it asks for a key, just select "I don't have a product key"

[OneeyedJohn]

I installed Win10 successfully today.

 

 

[KhunHeineken]

On 8/26/2020 at 9:15 AM, techietraveller84 said:

i7 and i9 come in a range of power beyond just those labels. But in general, an i7 should be able to handle your internet traffic with ease. The bottleneck generally isn't the i7.

 

The bottleneck can be your WiFi system, which slows speeds down, or a variety of computer settings or an aged operating system. It could also be your provider. If you are experiencing speed issues, your provider should have a speed test on their website. Do the speed test two ways: once with Wifi (if that's what you usually use) and then with a cable. The test may indicate you need a faster router.

 

Here are a couple articles with more explanations and good info:

 

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/intel-core-i7-vs-i9/

 

https://www.allconnect.com/blog/consumers-guide-to-internet-speed

I'm not experiencing any speed issues. 

 

It was just a general question to ask if at 100Mbs download speed, if the processor was the slowest link in the chain, or the internet speed was the slowest link. 

 

Then, if you could get a 1Gbs internet connection, what would be the slowest link?  

[KhunHeineken]

On 9/14/2020 at 12:11 PM, KhunHeineken said:

I'm not experiencing any speed issues. 

 

It was just a general question to ask if at 100Mbs download speed, if the processor was the slowest link in the chain, or the internet speed was the slowest link. 

 

Then, if you could get a 1Gbs internet connection, what would be the slowest link?  

Bumping this post.

 

Does anyone know with the latest Core i7 or Core i9 processors if the processor is the bottleneck at 100Mbs internet speed, or these processors can easily handle 100Mbs internet speed, thus making the internet speed of 100Mbs speed the bottleneck.

[kekalot]

On 11/7/2020 at 5:05 AM, KhunHeineken said:

Bumping this post.

 

Does anyone know with the latest Core i7 or Core i9 processors if the processor is the bottleneck at 100Mbs internet speed, or these processors can easily handle 100Mbs internet speed, thus making the internet speed of 100Mbs speed the bottleneck.

 

has nothing to do with processors but your network card.

unless you got a gigabit network interface controller/card then you are likely to get 100mpbs

haven't read the whole thread so not sure what you have but you can look it up (motherboard for PC, model number for prebuilt)

 

you can get something like this if you only got 100mbps and want more

 

https://www.amazon.ca/AmazonBasics-1000-Gigabit-Ethernet-Adapter/dp/B00M77HMU0

 

[KhunHeineken]

On 11/10/2020 at 10:06 PM, kekalot said:

 

has nothing to do with processors but your network card.

unless you got a gigabit network interface controller/card then you are likely to get 100mpbs

haven't read the whole thread so not sure what you have but you can look it up (motherboard for PC, model number for prebuilt)

 

you can get something like this if you only got 100mbps and want more

 

https://www.amazon.ca/AmazonBasics-1000-Gigabit-Ethernet-Adapter/dp/B00M77HMU0

 

Thanks for your reply.  

 

I'm not having any problems, just curious.  

 

I never considered the network card, but say I had a Gigabit network card, my question still remains.  If you had a 50Mbs or 100Mbs download speed internet connection, is the bottle neck the speed of the internet, or the processor, being a later model Core i7, or even the latest Core i9?

 

To give an example, say I am on a 50Mbs download speed internet connection, and say my Core i7 can easily process that internet speed, there probably would be little to no benefit in upgrading to a Core i9.  Then again, say I have a 100Mbs download speed internet connection, and my Core i7 can't process that fast, would I benefit from an upgrade to a Core i9?  Is this a correct assumption, or am I wrong?

[JaiMaai]

No, the CPU is almost certainly not tthe bottleneck.

 

What is it you are actually trying to achieve with that fast connection?  For example, if you are downloading files to a hard disk, then the hard disk is going to be the bottleneck.

[KhunHeineken]

4 hours ago, JaiMaai said:

No, the CPU is almost certainly not tthe bottleneck.

 

What is it you are actually trying to achieve with that fast connection?  For example, if you are downloading files to a hard disk, then the hard disk is going to be the bottleneck.

I'm not trying to achieve anything.  I am asking out of curiosity.  I am using SSD's.

 

For example, using an old Pentium 486 today, the processor would be the bottleneck on a 50Mbs internet download speed.  Right?

 

I am interested to know with 50Mbs and / or 100Mbs download internet speed if the Core i7 and / or the Core i9 are the bottleneck, or the internet download speed is the bottleneck.  These are the two internet speeds I normally use.  

 

Such information might be good to know when considering a hardware upgrade.   

[OneeyedJohn]

There are many websites that specialise in the information you require.

 

Go there and leave this thread - my thread about PC upgrade - ALONE

 

It has achieved it's purpose with many good contributions that will likely help others as well as myself.

 

I hope a mod will have the good sense to close this topic to further replies

Edited November 25, 2020 by OneeyedJohn

[Tyler Visan]

On 7/24/2020 at 12:28 PM, Stocky said:

The range of Asus mini-pc are good too. I have one connected up to my TV as a media box.

I am just about to order the Asus with the Ryzen5 CPU form Invade, Bht 18750. I know someone who has one and it is AWESOME. M2 SSD, 8GB RAM, good value.

[Tyler Visan]

On 9/14/2020 at 9:11 AM, KhunHeineken said:

I'm not experiencing any speed issues. 

 

It was just a general question to ask if at 100Mbs download speed, if the processor was the slowest link in the chain, or the internet speed was the slowest link. 

 

Then, if you could get a 1Gbs internet connection, what would be the slowest link?  

It's OK being able to connect at 1 GB/s, but if the place you connect to is only downloading at say 50 MB/s, that's what you'll get.

[ubonjoe]

50 minutes ago, OneeyedJohn said:

I hope a mod will have the good sense to close this topic to further replies

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