Navy: Country Needs Submarine

[TLeaf]

Yeah it's true you can't go on the navy boat tourist attraction.  I tried and my girlfriend said ''big nose not allowed''.

[sammieuk1]

How many generals can you get on a submarine when the impending fleeing starts ????

Edited August 24, 2020 by sammieuk1

[impulse]

10 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

How many generals can you get on a submarine when the impending fleeing starts 

 

I was thinking more along the lines of how many tons of yaba, ganja and heroin...  Or Rohingya slave laborers.   Because that's already ongoing.  And there's no way it could without military complicity.

 

[DirtyHarry55]

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“Attacking the purchase with fake news about extravagant spending is selfish and political. Why are we letting politicians create chaos? Stop making citizens hate the armed forces,” Prachachat said. “I watch the Nation. Their poll says 71 percent of citizens want us to buy submarines.” 

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The poll result was aired by Nation TV earlier today. It said 74 percent of the respondents agreed that the navy should immediately buy the submarines, 19 voted for buying them later, and 7 percent said the navy shouldn’t buy them at all.

Hahah the Nation TV of course 74% said agreed with the Navy now go ask the Voice TV
https://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2020/08/24/navy-cites-nation-poll-to-say-the-public-wants-new-subs/
 

That's it from now on only conduct Polls via the yellow shirt Nation TV lol ????

 

 

Edited August 24, 2020 by DirtyHarry55

[mark131v]

1 minute ago, DirtyHarry55 said:

Hahah the Nation TV of course 74% said that now go ask the Voice TV
https://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2020/08/24/navy-cites-nation-poll-to-say-the-public-wants-new-subs/

Damn this 'government' seem to have unusually high approval ratings for their spending policies, wonder if that correlates to unusually high wealth due to their stellar intuition and business acumen....

 

One could be forgiven for thinking they just made it all up but I am sure such fine upstanding gent's would never do that....

 

*sarcasm alert...*

[lemonjelly]

My missus and rest of the outlaws are fuming over this. They didn’t care much for Thaksin at the time, but are now hoping upon his return.

[worgeordie]

I think everyone will know the REAL reason they are buying the Subs......and it's not about patrolling the oceans.

regards Worgeordie

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

I think everyone will know the REAL reason they are buying the Subs......and it's not about patrolling the oceans.

regards Worgeordie

Baddabum-baddabing !!!! 

 

Not only is there an Elephant in the room, but its whacking off and giving the nations tax payers a facial.... 

 

 

 

[DirtyHarry55]

8 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

I think everyone will know the REAL reason they are buying the Subs......and it's not about patrolling the oceans.

regards Worgeordie

Yes there's other practical uses for them.

 

 

 

[dinsdale]

As it stands Australia has six subs for the biggest island in the world. Admittedly they've purchased more off the plan but this may be scrapped. Nevertheless Australia could come in an wipe out the Thai military in quick manner new subs or not. This is just military spending under a military democratically elected junta government.

[geisha]

I think they’re going to use them to pick up the tourists for the new island scheme .

[trucking]

16 hours ago, rvaviator said:

I just read on another Thai English language news web site that according to a poll 71% of Thais agree with buying submarines ??? ... What on earth .... Not sure I can post a link to it here ... 

 

That survey was conducted by the Nation newspaper. Not a rag currently in favor with the pro democracy students but naturally it is the one favored by the Navy.

[spiekerjozef]

Colombia found a good use for them.

[dinsdale]

3 hours ago, rvaviator said:

I just read on another Thai English language news web site that according to a poll 71% of Thais agree with buying submarines ??? ... What on earth .... Not sure I can post a link to it here ... 

Missus showed me FB is going crazy over this. Thais are not happy. More likely 7.1%.

[samsensam]

4 hours ago, PatOngo said:

VAdm Thaloengsak Sirisawat, director-general of the Navy Operations Department, said the country needed enough resources to protect its sovereignty and maritime routes in the event of a maritime territorial dispute or clash in the South China Sea.

 

Well how convincing is that! The Chinese have already STOLEN the South China Sea, what you gonna do about it! ????

 

like when they protected their sovereignty when the british empire loggers came and took what mahogany they wanted, and like when they protected their sovereignty when the japanese arrived in ww 2...

[Flying Saucage]

[misterjames]

58 minutes ago, samsensam said:

 

like when they protected their sovereignty when the british empire loggers came and took what mahogany they wanted, and like when they protected their sovereignty when the japanese arrived in ww 2...

So why don't they protect their sovereignty against the Chinese then? by the way they didn't have much worth nicking tbh ????

[meechai]

6 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The Royal Thai Navy defended its project to procure a submarine, saying it was vital for national defense.

 

Come On !!!

 

There are 3 countries capable of invading another country on a distant shore

 

China

Russia

USA

 

None of these have any desire to invade Thailand.....What for gawds sake would be the prize?

 

That aside if for some bizarre reason a country with distant shores invading capability wanted to invade Thailand....

These toy subs & this toy military force could do nothing to stop it period.

 

It is just another trip to the trough for the usual suspects with padded expenses

 

 

Edited August 24, 2020 by meechai

[DrTuner]

30 minutes ago, misterjames said:

So why don't they protect their sovereignty against the Chinese then? 

Because they are Chinese at heart. That's what Sino in Sino-Thai means.

[Soikhaonoiken]

Boys and toys come to mind, and they will lay up rusting away like the rest of the toys they purchased, these clowns have no sense of priority when the unempoyment figures are increasing daily, just hope they don't decide to buy any nuclear weapons, god help us all.. 

[webfact]

Navy defends Bt22.5bn deal for submarines as ‘good value’

By The Nation

 

High-ranking Navy officers line up at a press conference today to defend its purchase of two additional subs. (Nation Photo by Tatchadon Panyaphanitkul)

 

The Royal Thai Navy has defended its Bt22.5-billion deal to purchase two more submarines following public complaints that the money should be spent on relieving people’s suffering amid the Covid-19 crisis.

 

Vice Admiral Talengsak Sirisawad, Naval Operations Department chief, today said the submarines were needed to protect Thai marine interests worth Bt24 trillion. 

 

He added that the submarines would reinforce Thailand's bargaining power when negotiating with other countries to defend national interests.

 

Talengsak said the Navy considered the purchase carefully and found it was beneficial for the economy and for national security.

The Navy spoke up to defend the deal following a public outcry when government coalition MPs voted to purchase two more submarines as the economy sinks under the impact of Covid-19.

 

The subcommittee for procurement, ICT, state enterprises and revolving funds, which is vetting the budget bill for 2021, voted 5:4 on Friday to spend Bt22.5 billion on two more subs from China.

 

The vote was deadlocked after four coalition MPs from the Palang Pracharath, Democrat and Bhumjaithai parties approved the Navy budget for the China-made subs, while four opposition MPs voted against. The opposition lawmakers were from Move Forward, Pheu Thai and Seri Ruam Thai (Thai Liberal Party).

 

The chairman of the subcommittee, a member of the pro-military Palang Pracharath Party, then voted in support, resulting in approval of the Navy budget. 

 

The planned purchase is part of a deal signed by the military-backed government of Prayut Chan-o-cha to buy three subs from China. The first submarine was purchased in 2017 and will be delivered in 2024.

 

Vice Admiral Tirakul Kanchana, the Navy’s Comptroller-General, said the purchase of all three submarines will cost Bt36 billion. For the first sub, Thailand is paying over Bt13 billion in instalments between 2017 and 2023.

 

Tirakul said the purchase of two additional subs is part of this same deal, not a new procurement. The Bt22.5 billion payment will be divided into seven annual instalments of Bt2 billion-Bt3 billion, using the Navy regular annual budget, not an extra budget, he said.

 

Navy Chief of Staff Adm Sittiporn Maskasem said any delay in purchasing the subs could affect the country's marine security and Thailand’s credibility in international trade.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30393453

 

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[Phuketshrew]

11 minutes ago, webfact said:

He added that the submarines would reinforce Thailand's bargaining power when negotiating with other countries to defend national interests.

What? Yep I am sure that countries like the US and China will be quaking in their boots at the thought of having to take on Thai submariners.

[PatOngo]

34 minutes ago, webfact said:

He added that the submarines would reinforce Thailand's bargaining power when negotiating with other countries to defend national interests.

Thailand's national interest IS it's rich, elite society!

[mark131v]

42 minutes ago, webfact said:

He added that the submarines would reinforce Thailand's bargaining power when negotiating with other countries to defend national interests.

# abso<deleted>inlutelydeluded.com

 

Takes years to build up a submarine force

 

1. First thing you need is a professional pool of military soldiers, sailors and technicians not to mention leadership with a high degree of education and ability, also required is appropriate infrastructure to deliver the training and development required to achieve the aim of a 21st century Submarine capability 

 

2. Cannot......

 

[torturedsole]

I hope the submarine commander can drive a car. 

[misterjames]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Navy defends Bt22.5bn deal for submarines as ‘good value’

The planned purchase is part of a deal signed by the military-backed government of Prayut Chan-o-cha to buy three subs from China. The first submarine was purchased in 2017 and will be delivered in 2024.

Surprise surprise! exactly what I said they would say in this thread before they even announced it.

[misterjames]

3 hours ago, DrTuner said:

Because they are Chinese at heart. That's what Sino in Sino-Thai means.

It maybe what Sino-Thai means but with only 11 to 14 percent of Thailand's population being Sino-Thai the overwhelming majority are actually not "Chinese at heart" as you put it.

 

 

Edited August 24, 2020 by misterjames

[Thaiwrath]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Talengsak said the Navy considered the purchase carefully and found it was beneficial for the economy and for national security.

I am not sure about being beneficial for the economy, the economy is a <deleted> mess, and is in great need of assistance from the government.

However, it will certainly be beneficial for the bank accounts of those in the cabinet, and the Navy big wigs.

Edited August 24, 2020 by Thaiwrath

[The Farang]

Meanwhile,  people struggling to eat because they can't get work with the borders closed.

[HerewardtheWake]

Does anybody have some knowledge the Thai naval doctrine? The Gulf is large, but reportedly has an average depth of 68 meters and the deepest parts are 100 meters. May be smaller 300-500 ton subs will be more suitable. Or fast patrol boats can give sound coastal protection. There is probably some kind of inter-service rivalry between the Army and the Navy, and the boat boys want sexy toys too.