Giving up on Pattaya

[Kerryd]

35 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO it's to anchor the ATM. If the guy has a kid with her, she knows he won't leave her when she cuts him off.

I like it when you meet one with a new baby and she says it's yours and you do the math and figure out she would have had to have been pregnant for almost 18 months in order for there to be any chance of it being yours.

Friend of mine living up north had a child with his Thai wife, who left him (and the kid) not long after and last I heard, he and the kid were still living with her mom !

[dallen52]

On 8/27/2020 at 3:03 AM, ukrules said:

I think it's highly ironic that Australia is keeping everyone locked up again, especially when you consider how it started out as a prison colony ????

Predominately colonised by British, who were given 7 years for supposedly stealing a loaf of bread, or an apple. 

[dallen52]

13 hours ago, aussiexpat said:

Hoping not but thinking this is a made up troll post, otherwise why not give more details.

https://covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au/leaving-australia

 

Why would it be a troll post??

 

The news articles are similar to the crud on TVF.

Done to get a reaction. 

 

I applied on a Monday and was given the ok on a Tuesday morning. 

Deemed normally not resident. 

Permission to leave not required...

[Laughing Gravy]

4 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I think his tongue in cheek remark was not 100 percent serious

The poster has not indicated otherwise, so we will see.

 

4 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Muslim women might be an example. And if dropped into parts of Yorkshire and Scotland one might think English is not spoken

Every time I go Scotland and Yorkshire I always think the same???? but I understand what you are saying. Certainly in the UK there are more nationalities around that are not from the UK

 

4 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Muslim women might be an example.

Parts of Bradford and Manchester I know this is true.

 

4 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Part of the reason Filipinos are employed outside of their country is English is well spoken, as with Indians.

 

They do speak good English but for the average Brit regardless of ethnicity, provided they went to school (literacy rates are high) have a higher command of the English language than those mentioned.

 

Back to the thread. I wouldn't give up Pattaya as there are lots worse places in the world.????

[petermik]

9 hours ago, jacko45k said:

To deny a young Thai wife children of her own is a rather serious and maybe selfish decision.

I am constantly making the effort to provide my sweetheart with all that she desires.....

 

 

 particularly if she sees a sister or friend happy with a new baby. 

on the other hand I have been much more successful with her sister as will be seen in the near future

 

It also gives them a sense of security.

my security is more pressing at this moment in time...I,m looking for a hideaway currently before the muck hits the fan so to speak.....help.

 

[abrahamzvi]

18 hours ago, Leaver said:

I would say Spain is going to have a huge increase in Euro zone tourism over the next 12 to 18 months.  Greece the same.  

 

I sincerely hope so, but in view of the latest figures of infected people in Spain, probably mostly due to the influx of tourists in July and August, I unfortunately have doubts that it will take place.

[jacko45k]

1 hour ago, petermik said:

my security is more pressing at this moment in time...I,m looking for a hideaway currently before the muck hits the fan so to speak.....help.

Food for thought. ducks.....

[NanLaew]

9 hours ago, dallen52 said:

On 8/27/2020 at 12:03 AM, ukrules said:

I think it's highly ironic that Australia is keeping everyone locked up again, especially when you consider how it started out as a prison colony ????

Predominately colonised by British, who were given 7 years for supposedly stealing a loaf of bread, or an apple.

And all because the UK's industrial revolution had eliminated vast swathes of menial labour thus causing abject poverty, starvation and theft of food.

[jacko45k]

11 hours ago, NanLaew said:

And all because the UK's industrial revolution had eliminated vast swathes of menial labour thus causing abject poverty, starvation and theft of food.

What has this got to do with Pattaya?

[Olmate]

15 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

What has this got to do with Pattaya?

It’s the new penal colony?

[Chivas]

Ouch to say the least. Astrazeneca were leading the way as well. That is not good at all we can only hope the illness was not connected to the vaccine itself

 

https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/08/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-study-put-on-hold-due-to-suspected-adverse-reaction-in-participant-in-the-u-k/

[treetops]

4 minutes ago, Chivas said:

Ouch to say the least. Astrazeneca were leading the way as well. That is not good at all we can only hope the illness was not connected to the vaccine itself

It's not the first time this Astrazeneca trial has been put on hold, but worrying all the same.

[Scott]

An inflammatory post has been reported and removed. 

 

[Kerryd]

Yawn.

People "giving up on Pattaya" is like Americans "Moving to Canada if Trump wins". 

Lots of talk, no action. Just like most of the people who claim (all the time) that they are leaving Thailand to go live (in some place that is supposedly so much better than here). 

Pattaya will return, eventually. Once they start letting tourists in again, shops, restaurants and, naturally, bars will re-open and things will slowly start looking like they did before. 

Unless there's a sudden resurgence of the virus of course. Or another coup that isn't as peaceful as the last 2 were. Or all the bar owners decide to change their businesses into something that will earn considerably less money and all the girls from Isaan decide they'd rather stay in their home villages and work in the family rice fields for the rest of their lives.
Which should be around the same time that Thailand eliminates corruption and intelligent aliens finally give up waiting for us to contact them and decide to just push the big red reset button and send Earth back to the Precambrian era.

But until some (or all) of that happens, TV will have countless threads by people who will claim that Pattaya is dead and that the grass is greener in some other country (that they never seem to move to). 

[BigStar]

4 hours ago, Kerryd said:

Pattaya will return, eventually. Once they start letting tourists in again, shops, restaurants and, naturally, bars will re-open and things will slowly start looking like they did before. 

 

4 hours ago, Kerryd said:

But until some (or all) of that happens, TV will have countless threads by people who will claim that Pattaya is dead and that the grass is greener in some other country (that they never seem to move to). 

Lots of sour grapes. For every troll disparaging Pattaya, there're a thousand Brits dreaming in their council estates of how they might live in Pattaya forever. Meanwhile it's another fine day to be here.???? Looking out across the bay at Koh Larn now . . . .

Edited September 11, 2020 by BigStar

[champers]

Sour grapes do make for a most disagreeable whine. It tends to repeat on you ... again and again and again .....

 

[rott]

Reply to Kerryd post #344, I agree with you that Pattaya will return. 

But I feel it will be with a continuing gradual increase in the numbers of Chinese, Indians and possibly Russians and a continuing gradual decrease in the percentage of Westerners here. 

It all remains to be seen. 

[Leaver]

On 9/7/2020 at 7:05 AM, champers said:

Yes, I did, but I don't agree with it. The Covid crisis will be over before EU countries agree a combined Covid strategy between them, in my view. Countries have reverted to a self-centred approach, self preservation if you will.  We have all seen country by country statistics about infections and deaths but I don't recall seeing any combined EU figures. 

By the same reasoning, there hasn't been a combined approach to Covid amongst ASEAN nations, nor is their likely to be.

As a point of interest, there is not even a combined approach to Covid in the UK. There are very clear differences between how England and Scotland have acted, for example the Scots taking Greece off the list of safe places to travel to, whilst England didn't.

The fact that there is some freedom of movement shows each country in the EU is prepared to except the risk, or manage the risk, that other countries in the EU may present them. 

 

I am not suggesting the EU parliament will force a blanket law of freedom of movement that all EU countries must follow.  

[Leaver]

On 9/7/2020 at 8:01 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Another reason why I don't understand why old farangs with families already would have children in LOS. They moved to LOS to enjoy LOS, and go back for a kid! Just because the Thai wife wants a kid is not, IMO, sufficient reason to have one, or more.

 

Of course we enjoyed LOS because we made money elsewhere. LOS without money sucks big time. Same in any country, but my money went way further in LOS.

The older guys should seek out a younger Thai lady who has already had a child or children, otherwise, there will be grief.  

[moontang]

Turkey has a 10pm to 8am curfew, only for those over 65.  Not a bad idea...

[Leaver]

On 9/7/2020 at 10:34 AM, abrahamzvi said:

I sincerely hope so, but in view of the latest figures of infected people in Spain, probably mostly due to the influx of tourists in July and August, I unfortunately have doubts that it will take place.

it's not just Covid, it's also affordability issues, and entry restrictions such as Thailand's.  Much easier and cheaper for Europeans to holiday in Europe.     

[Leaver]

On 9/11/2020 at 4:19 PM, moontang said:

Turkey has a 10pm to 8am curfew, only for those over 65.  Not a bad idea...

Yeah, the over 65's have been known to party hard in Turkey.   ????

[rott]

On 9/8/2020 at 7:13 AM, Olmate said:

It’s the new penal colony?

Women will like the sound of that. 

[aussiexpat]

Does anyone know if you can hold 2 Thailand Visa at the same time?

 

To get an exemption to leave Australia I need a Thai retirement visa to prove I'll be living permanently overseas, however this visa won't get me into Thailand.

 

Thailand has now introduced the 9 month tourist visa, however this won't get me an exemption to leave Australia.

 

So I need both visa to enable me to get back...maybe it's not meant to be lol

[Mike Teavee]

22 minutes ago, aussiexpat said:

Does anyone know if you can hold 2 Thailand Visa at the same time?

 

To get an exemption to leave Australia I need a Thai retirement visa to prove I'll be living permanently overseas, however this visa won't get me into Thailand.

 

Thailand has now introduced the 9 month tourist visa, however this won't get me an exemption to leave Australia.

 

So I need both visa to enable me to get back...maybe it's not meant to be lol

In short No, you cannot hold 2 valid visas at one time, to get the 2nd visa would mean the 1st one has to be cancelled. 

 

my advice would be to get the “Retirement” Visa & sort out your Aussie pensions... by the time they’ve got the new Tourist Visa set-up they’ll probably be letting “Retirement” Non-Os in as well.

 

Edited September 17, 2020 by Mike Teavee

[treetops]

37 minutes ago, aussiexpat said:

Does anyone know if you can hold 2 Thailand Visa at the same time?

I certainly had 2 towards the end of last year, a multiple entry Tourist visa expiring January this year and a single entry "O"  valid from Nov 2019 until Feb 2020.

 

Maybe something to do with it being your Embassy who would issue a new one, but Immigration that would do any cancelling and you wouldn't need to see Immigration if you got things in the right order?

[Leaver]

On 9/17/2020 at 10:55 AM, Mike Teavee said:

In short No, you cannot hold 2 valid visas at one time,

You can if you are a dual national. 

 

One visa in one passport, and the other visa in the other passport.  

[aussiexpat]

So there is finally a glimmer of hope that I may not need to give up on Pattaya after all ????

 

New STV is a joke, however the O-A retirement visa now allows entry to Thailand (and leave Australia). This only requires my Aussie bank statements and 400k inpatient/40k outpatient insurance which I've been quoted by Pacific Cross at 16,035 baht for a year.

 

The COE is still a drama with <72 hour prior to Covid test results + the 14 days ASQ hotel, however the $100k covid insurance is not too bad (quoted 14,400 baht for a year)

 

What also gives me hope of easing restrictions is the WHO approval of rapid Covid test with results in 15 minutes and Singapore just agreed to allow people from Vietnam, Taiwan, Australia and New Zealand to enter without requiring 14 day quarantine. Just a Covid test on arrival, escort to hotel to isolate until test result known (1-3 days). Would be great if Thailand followed suit (or at least let us self isolate in our own condo if from low risk country)

Edited October 3, 2020 by aussiexpat

[kingofthemountain]

29 minutes ago, aussiexpat said:

Would be great if Thailand followed suit (or at least let us self isolate in our own condo)

Unfortunately self isolation doesn't work

particularly in Pattaya, you know already the reality here for a lot of people

no helmet when drive a scooter, no mask when walk in the public places

no condom when bang a short time girl, drink and smoke a lot as an habit

i don't expect these selfish and reckless guys wanting to self isolate themselves to protect the others

it's the last of their worries

 

[scubascuba3]

36 minutes ago, aussiexpat said:

So there is finally a glimmer of hope that I may not need to give up on Pattaya after all ????

 

New STV is a joke, however the O-A retirement visa now allows entry to Thailand (and leave Australia). This only requires my Aussie bank statements and 400k inpatient/40k outpatient insurance which I've been quoted by Pacific Cross at 16,035 baht for a year.

 

The COE is still a drama with <72 hour prior to Covid test results + the 14 days ASQ hotel, however the $100k covid insurance is not too bad (quoted 14,400 baht for a year)

 

What also gives me hope of easing restrictions is the WHO approval of rapid Covid test with results in 15 minutes and Singapore just agreed to allow people from Vietnam, Taiwan, Australia and New Zealand to enter without requiring 14 day quarantine. Just a Covid test on arrival, escort to hotel to isolate until test result known (1-3 days). Would be great if Thailand followed suit (or at least let us self isolate in our own condo if from low risk country)

You realise the 14+ days ASQ hotel could be circ 70k, a friend paid 77k for 16 days