Trump on defensive as critics seize on reports he insulted U.S. veterans

[PatOngo]

2 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Do you have a link for this? As posted before Fox anchor Judge Jeanine posted concrete proof (an official document from the fateful day) proving bad weather was the reason Trump could not attend. 

Unthinkable what bad weather would do to the Donald's hair! As far as avoiding getting wet, they have invented an amazing device called the umbrella!

[whaleboneman]

6 hours ago, MajarTheLion said:

BS story. Four anonymous sources. So far, ten named sources have called BS, including John Bolton.

A million supporters can call bs but that does nothing to disprove the anonymous sources.

[Jingthing]

15 minutes ago, PatOngo said:

Unthinkable what bad weather would do to the Donald's hair! As far as avoiding getting wet, they have invented an amazing device called the umbrella!

But that would be weak to him like he sees face masks. Real strong man leaders don't need scalp condoms.

[scorecard]

35 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You forgot to mention his bizarrely curious relationship with Putin. The one he will never criticize. Hopefully someday the reasons for that will come out.

 

Saying he is a puppet of big money is something you could say about all mainstream Republicans and most democrats as well.

 

That's too easy.

 

The corruption of con man president is at an entire other special level .

 

Let alone his bizarly curios relationship with Kim Jung Un the Nth Korea president ruthless dictator.

[Jingthing]

Just now, scorecard said:

Let alone his bizarly curios relationship with Kim Jung Un the Nth Korea president ruthless dictator.

Yeah but thats different as he has said negative things out Kim before the love affair.

 

Also Kim didn't help him to be president and isn't helping him now to stay in power. 

 

Putin did and is.

[Walker88]

When you hang your hat on known liar huckerbee sanders and mouthpieces like gidley, you are in trouble.

 

Not a single flag officer has come forward to speak in support of 45. Even John Bolton, whom many are claiming clears 45 of something totally in 45's character, only said he never heard such statements, not that the statements are not true. Bolton is not calling the Pentagon sources liars. The silence of flag officers is actually a very clear indictment of 45.

 

During the WWI commemoration, when 45 was supposed to go to the French cemetery, Canadian PM Trudeau did go, in the rain, and without an umbrella. When told to cover up, Trudeau said, "these men went through much worse; I can take a little rain". THAT is respect. 45 last week claimed 'I called Melania back in DC and said how disappointed I was I couldn't go."  In his obvious lie, 45 forgot his wife was with him in France.

 

Folks who on occasion brief 45, such as from the intel community, have heard such statements. 45 always makes flippant comments and shows precious little interest in matters of national security. I don't anyone in the IC is a Goldberg source, as his are appear to be Pentagon people. When 45 was briefed on the intel about putin offering the Taliban bounties on US soldiers, 45 virtually ignored the briefing and showed zero regard for the men and women serving who might fall prey. 45 changes the subject or starts asking "why is nobody talking about China?". 45 even raised China as a source of the Navalny poisoning, which is ludicrous. Like that line from Brokeback Mountain, 45 just can't quit putin.

 

Those flag officers who still have contacts inside the Pentagon know full well that 45 couldn't care less about US Troops.  Even before the reprehensible comments re Sen John McCain and McCain's POW record, 45 has a long personal history of statements that reflect a lack of respect for people who choose to serve. Adms Mullen and McRaven, Gens McCaffrey, McCrystal and Dunford....they know.  Col Jack Jacobs, Medal of Honor recipient, stated on TV a few days ago that his Pentagon contacts have corroborated everything in the Atlantic article. Col Jacobs was almost in tears speaking of the military's firm rule that 'we do not leave our people behind', and that this is drilled into troops from Boot Camp onward. To have a POTUS say, "why bother getting people back? They messed up so leave them" is anathema to those who serve and will put doubt into the minds of men and women now joining the military. It is an astonishing betrayal of those who willingly serve.

 

The Atlantic author said he has more sources and more material that will be released in time.

 

This is resonating with those who served, less so for those who like 45 never did, and who have absolutely no concept of what it is like to go into harm's way on behalf of something greater than one's self.

Edited September 7, 2020 by Walker88

[Rimmer]

A troll post has been removed, please do not alter the names of political parties or politicians in order to fit you own agenda

[bendejo]

15 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Let alone his bizarly curios relationship with Kim Jung Un the Nth Korea president ruthless dictator.

He said himself he wants to develop a resort in NK, said it at the press conference he gave the first time he met Kim.  "It's what I do" he said.

 

 

[TheFishman1]

 It sounds exactly what Trump would say he lies about everything he never admits to being wrong about anything he makes wearing mask and political thing not a scientific or help thing is been the worst president in history for dividing the country everybody knows Trump avoided military service I having a foot doctor that rents his office from trumps daddy to give his son Donald a note so he wouldn’t have to serve is disgrace to the presidency bizarre world

[wwest5829]

6 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

This all might have been believable 3-4-5 years ago, but after all the obviously biased and hysterical dog poo reporting over the last few years from legacy media, nobody of any significance is gonna be duped and no minds will be changed. 
 

The same haters are gonna still hate, they’ve been doing it for years now. 

There are some of us who recognize the documented words, policies and actions of The Donald over the period of his administration. It is this upon history judges and he and his supporters will forever be denouncing the recorded history which is not favorable.

[Lacessit]

59 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Absolutely. Just some more marks and suckers to him that he has lied to and used as he has done during his entire career.

 

How one man can take a great nation down the drain is remarkable but not unprecedented in history. 

I see quite strong parallels with the reign of Commodus. Possibly casting Obama as Marcus Aurelius is a bridge too far. Most historians mark the ascension of Commodus as the beginning of the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

[Jingthing]

On the cemetery memorial event he probably shouldn't have flown but it was easy enough to drive.

 

He knew he would be criticized for missing it as that was part of the main reason he was in France at the time.

 

He obviously just didn't want to go.

 

A normal president goes anyway.

 

He's not fit for that great  office. 

 

Never was and never will be.

[CorpusChristie]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

On the cemetery memorial event he probably shouldn't have flown but it was easy enough to drive.

 

He knew he would be criticized for missing it as that was part of the main reason he was in France at the time.

 

He obviously just didn't want to go.

 

A normal president goes anyway.

 

He's not fit for that great  office. 

 

Never was and never will be.

Why didnt Trump want to go to the memorial ?

[Sujo]

14 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Why didnt Trump want to go to the memorial ?

Because its for losers and suckers.

[Sujo]

14 minutes ago, pmarlin said:

You can when it was made up and never happened. Reports are coming out that the Biden campaign staffer planted the story. Just more dirty politics.

You are fast to believe a ‘report’. But not when many have verified trump did say it.

[simple1]

2 hours ago, englishoak said:

 

I prefer to watch what people do rather than say, Mattis is a classic war hawk, nothing less and has no more credibility than anyone else on or off the net, Generals lie, its part of their job role to do so.  Why on earth should American lives not come first to America ?  Everyone lost lives fighting IS who did, the Kurds were/are trying to secure a homeland and thats the agenda for them, others have differing objectives. Personally pulling out imo is by far the best for American lives, it dosnt need the mess and should have gone home long ago and that includes the whole region.. but yknow... war mongering Bushes Clintons, Obama policies did otherwise. Some are far too used to meddling in the ME,  Luckily Policies can change when leaderships change and the USA is no different, thats nothing new just you dont like the change because its Trump setting policy thats all.

 

To embark on a different foreign policy brings other options, it can make make others used to having the USA doing their work for them think again. Like for instance Israel and the Arab nations making peace. America dosnt have to fight wars to stay or be strong. Trump as much as you might hate him is not a war president, even though the left have been screeching muh Orange hitler etc. Call me old fashioned but I like peace, peace is good and I hope we see peace breaking out all over the ME and the region after decades of wasted lives. 

Americans who fully support America First ideology under trump will one day realise the deep strategic error. (disclaimer don't think trump will achieve re-election). I'll remind you US republicans initiated the Iraq War and the rise of IS. You insult those who died fighting alongside US forces, quite the mirror image of trump. Personally, I don't view trump as a peacemaker - more like laying the seeds for future conflict - kicking the tin along...

[RJRS1301]

7 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

 

Well it was fun while it lasted. But like the Russia collusion fiasco, the Smollett lynching and the Sandmann racist kid it was too good to be true. Not that truth ever played a part in the irrational hatred of Donald Trump.

 

Sky News host Paul Murray says the biggest example of fake news played out in the United States in the last week and leveled unfounded and wrong attacks at President Donald Trump. The left leaning publication, The Atlantic, released an article written by four nameless people who suggested Donald Trump didn’t want to go to a war cemetery in France because those who died in war are “losers” and “suckers”. The unsourced story, with no names and big claims, became mainstream after it was talked about by presidential hopeful Joe Biden, Mr Murray said.

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6188224532001

 

 If anybody is interested in conclusive proof this is fake news, see 3.34 on this video and you will see hard evidence the trip was cancelled due to bad weather. 

 

 And final proof this is fake news, is witness and Trump hater John Bolton who was actually there at the time this supposed event happened said he did not hear anything like the accusations.

 

Epic fail!

 

Oh dear Paul Murray of course is an unbiased credible journalist whose claim fame is he suckholed himself an interview with the man which was a piece of embarrassing fluff. 

[Srikcir]

7 hours ago, MajarTheLion said:

BS story. Four anonymous sources. So far, ten named sources have called BS, including John Bolton.

More like four news outlets, each with its own set of anonymous sources.

Add Fox New's security correspondent Jennifer Griffin who conducted her own independent sources including former senior Trump officials to confirm what other news media have claimed. Trump has responded by demanding she be fired. Interestingly, Trump suggested former POTUS Chief of Staff General John Kelly himself could have been an anonymous source quoted in The Atlantic.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-dead-soldiers-veterans-suckers-losers-atlantic-fox-news-a9706436.html

What is notable is Kelly's public silence on claims made about Trump. 

[candide]

7 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

If anybody is interested in conclusive proof this is fake news, see 3.34 on this video and you will see hard evidence the trip was cancelled due to bad weather

Lol. The French press published the weather report at that time. Rare showers and wind gusts at max. 25mph. ????

https://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2018/11/10/2904064-donald-trump-annule-visite-cimetiere-militaire-aisne-cause-pluie.html

[DrTuner]

Finding news on MSM behind all their political campaigning is starting to be quite hard. Still months to go before the election BS is gone. Sigh.

[Dap]

8 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

This all might have been believable 3-4-5 years ago, but after all the obviously biased and hysterical dog poo reporting over the last few years from legacy media, nobody of any significance is gonna be duped and no minds will be changed. 
 

The same haters are gonna still hate, they’ve been doing it for years now. 

Total waste of time. If trump succeeds with all his lying and devious mechanizations, he may very well extend his stench and continue to demean the proud history of the United States of America. I won't change your mind and you will certainly not change mine. Let's just see what the nation chooses on November 3rd. I'll live with that either way. 

[Thingamabob]

Totally ridiculous story invented by a truly pathetic Democrat Party. Wake up guys, and provide us with policies we can vote for. At this rate it's going to be a Trump walkover come November.

[Sujo]

1 minute ago, Thingamabob said:

Totally ridiculous story invented by a truly pathetic Democrat Party. Wake up guys, and provide us with policies we can vote for. At this rate it's going to be a Trump walkover come November.

I think you will find its repubs that told the story. I dont think any dems were there.

[CorpusChristie]

6 minutes ago, Sujo said:

I think you will find its repubs that told the story. I dont think any dems were there.

If it didnt actually happen, then no one would have been there 

[Sujo]

4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

If it didnt actually happen, then no one would have been there 

Kelly has been very quiet on the subject, even tho trump blasted him for it

[RocketDog]

5 hours ago, englishoak said:

 

I prefer to watch what people do rather than say, Mattis is a classic war hawk, nothing less and has no more credibility than anyone else on or off the net, Generals lie, its part of their job role to do so.  Why on earth should American lives not come first to America ?  Everyone lost lives fighting IS who did, the Kurds were/are trying to secure a homeland and thats the agenda for them, others have differing objectives. Personally pulling out imo is by far the best for American lives, it dosnt need the mess and should have gone home long ago and that includes the whole region.. but yknow... war mongering Bushes Clintons, Obama policies did otherwise. Some are far too used to meddling in the ME,  Luckily Policies can change when leaderships change and the USA is no different, thats nothing new just you dont like the change because its Trump setting policy thats all.

 

To embark on a different foreign policy brings other options, it can make make others used to having the USA doing their work for them think again. Like for instance Israel and the Arab nations making peace. America dosnt have to fight wars to stay or be strong. Trump as much as you might hate him is not a war president, even though the left have been screeching muh Orange hitler etc. Call me old fashioned but I like peace, peace is good and I hope we see peace breaking out all over the ME and the region after decades of wasted lives. 

Peace in the middle east? 

That will happen when they all want peace. They haven't and won't anytime soon. They've enjoyed their conflict for millenia. 

[LomSak27]

9 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Totally ridiculous story invented by a truly pathetic Democrat Party. Wake up guys, and provide us with policies we can vote for. At this rate it's going to be a Trump walkover come November.

 

Just now, Sujo said:

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

If it didnt actually happen, then no one would have been there 

Kelly has been very quiet on the subject, even tho trump blasted him for it

 

To be fair, Fox News have verified parts of it. Verified that Trump said that anyone who was in the Vietnam War was a "sucker" and that he hated John McCain and that he said he couldn't understand why anyone would fight for their country and asked why they would since there was nothing in it for them personally and also that he didn't want disabled people in the parade or whatever it was because it isn't a good look and "no one wants to see that". They said the part about not going to the cemetery was not true and that he really didn't go due to the weather.

 

What beggars belief is what Trump said to John Kelly at Kelly’s sons graveside. How (deleted) up is that?

[CorpusChristie]

7 minutes ago, LomSak27 said:

 

 

To be fair, Fox News have verified parts of it. Verified that Trump said that anyone who was in the Vietnam War was a "sucker" and that he hated John McCain and that he said he couldn't understand why anyone would fight for their country and asked why they would since there was nothing in it for them personally and also that he didn't want disabled people in the parade or whatever it was because it isn't a good look and "no one wants to see that". They said the part about not going to the cemetery was not true and that he really didn't go due to the weather.

 

What beggars belief is what Trump said to John Kelly at Kelly’s sons graveside. How (deleted) up is that?

Fox news ?

I thought they weren't a trustworthy news source ?

Posters on here have many times told me to stop watching it because its all lies 

[LomSak27]

Just now, CorpusChristie said:

Fox news ?

I thought they weren't a trustworthy news source ?

Posters on here have many times told me to stop watching it because its all lies 

The fact they found all this out means nothing ...  go look at their website. They Are burying this as deep as they can. Almost like it never happened. Hannity probably wet himself.

[CorpusChristie]

2 minutes ago, LomSak27 said:

The fact they found all this out means nothing ...  go look at their website. They Are burying this as deep as they can. Almost like it never happened. Hannity probably wet himself.

Please will you post a link to the website with the story ?