Popular Post robblok Posted October 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said: Well from everyone I have been talking to around the world, they want their borders open, have the governments made or taken polls to see what the public wants or have they blanketed everyone and become control freaks, just look at Melbourne in Australia, they are calling him Dictator Dan. I agree governments have a roll to protect their citizens, but have failed countless times by sending them into wars that had nothing to do with their countries being attacked, dead citizens now, is that protecting their citizens, I know, that's another story, but it is about control, as for governments protecting their citizens, well we do a good job of that on our own, no need to force us to comply. Obviously the Thais don't want it, only those in tourism do. They are a minority. There have been quite a few polls all saying the same thing. When i talk with Thais who are not in tourism they all say they want the country closed as they like it this way. They don't want to go through an other lockdown. Those in tourism (a minority of the people) want it open (only logical if i was depended on the money I would say the same thing.) The government is actually brave by keeping the borders closed as it is costing them money but they protect their citizen better as those in Europe and the US where new lockdowns occur. 6 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantsonfire Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Why are these polls posted here? Just a useless poll for nothing. Dont these people have better things to do? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Flying Saucage Posted October 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Besides the fact that I do not trust any Thai poll at all: Could not someone open the eyes of the Thais about the official claims that on the one hand during the last months hundreds of Thais and foreigners who returned to Thailand officially were tested positive in quarantine, but on the other hand the number of deaths stubbornly sticks at 59? So, even according to official numbers of Thai officials, Covid hardly seems to be a death sentence, isn't it? Do they not have any real expert in Thailand, besides these two biased and hysteria-creating government mouthspieces Yong and Thira, who could educate the Thais about this? In civilized pluralistic countries, there are these voices among the experts. Edited October 8, 2020 by Flying Saucage 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pegman Posted October 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, robblok said: Obviously the Thais don't want it, only those in tourism do. They are a minority. There have been quite a few polls all saying the same thing. When i talk with Thais who are not in tourism they all say they want the country closed as they like it this way. They don't want to go through an other lockdown. Those in tourism (a minority of the people) want it open (only logical if i was depended on the money I would say the same thing.) The government is actually brave by keeping the borders closed as it is costing them money but they protect their citizen better as those in Europe and the US where new lockdowns occur. I give the Thai gov very little credit for anything but do with this issue. Why take the risk? Look what is going on in the USA and Briton. Both are absolute basketcases. If you're going to have a pandemic don't have it when a right wing gov is in place. It's what happens when the almighty money trumps health and everything else. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johng Posted October 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, pegman said: Look what is going on in the USA and Briton. Both are absolute basketcases. Cases up because testing is up The second wave ???? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ireland32 Posted October 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: I think it is obvious, most of those polled have no connection on the tourist industry, are fully employed, and could not give a flying <deleted> about anyone else. Isaan is thriving , get off the baht bus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oldie Posted October 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Thailand is more than Soi 6 and other bar locations. Even if it is hard to believe for some... Edited October 8, 2020 by Oldie 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guderian Posted October 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 Why should the 85% of people in Thailand who have nothing at all to do with tourism want to take a risk with their jobs and their health? Certain people may be unhappy about it, but it's called the will of the majority, and it's a fundamental principle of democracy. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) There used to be a time when there were no airplanes and Thais were just farmers... I have no problem with that....CM downtown is quite nice w/o hordes of people and easier to find parking Carry on.... Hey G....here is your problem with your attempt at Democracy....a dictator and his court are making all the decisions not the people...a poll of people is not the same of people actually voting on something or in thailand’s case exercising your right to vote... Edited October 8, 2020 by cardinalblue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sharp Posted October 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 43 minutes ago, johng said: Cases up because testing is up The second wave ???? Exactly!! Also add the way the deaths are actually counted totally debunks its Fatality rate 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 42 minutes ago, Ireland32 said: Isaan is thriving , get off the baht bus Thriving you say just looking around Udon Thani and talking to the staff in homepro and Index would lead me to believe the opposite it's also hit them .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johng Posted October 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 32 minutes ago, Oldie said: I object to this map as it does not show Pattaya as a ( world class family beach resort) Tourist destination ( no red triangle) ???? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JusticeGB Posted October 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 Poll underemployed people in Pattaya or Phuket and the answer will be the opposite. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paahlman Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 hours ago, jvs said: As always polls do not mean a lot,it all depends on how you ask the questions and whom you ask. I can understand both sides but they do have to realize the longer they wait the worse it will get. Some kind of second wave is unavoidable. I see people all around not wearing mask any more,they are the smart ones. The anger of the people around the world against stupid rules is in creasing. Over here,wear a mask but forget your helmet,how stupid can you get? Tough choices need to be made and either way it is going to be challenged by the opposition. What makes sense over here does not make any sense else where. In a few years we will know the truth. Make it 60 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trujillo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Agree...how many of the respondents are in the tourism or hospitality industry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy John Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 hours ago, ChipButty said: Go and ask the bar girls see what they say, I see one complaining the other day she's not had sex for 10 weeks I have a feeling She maybe telling pork pies! What She is really saying is she hasn't been with someone who has a given her a generous sized tip. Take that either way folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rupert the bear Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 the people most likely to bring virus in are thais look at the statistics but no lets not facts get in the way of stupidity.why coz they dont need to be tested when they board the flight so the chances of being clear on boarding and then getting it from infected thais are very high indeed duuuur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vandeventer Posted October 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 The most stupid thing I see every day is people riding scooter's and wearing a mask but not having a helmet on. God save us all! 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukKrueng Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 hours ago, CelticBhoy said: "The Nida poll had a sample size of 1,318 respondents" Out of a population of nearly 70 million! Come on, make an effort! Yes, I suggest you wait for a REAL poll with more than 0.0018828571% of the population, then you can quote the poll in a real article. All those polls reported here are no more than a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 hours ago, webfact said: Majority of Thais say "NO!" to foreign tourists - Another misleading headline. The sample size was 1318 out of a population of 66 million plus. Go tell it on the mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trujillo Posted October 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 Sample size doesn't much depend on the population size, which is counter-intuitive to many. Most polling companies use 400 or 1000 people in their samples. There is a reason for this: A sample size of 400 will give you a confidence interval of +/-5% 19 times out of 20 (95%) A sample size of 1000 will give you a confidence interval of +/-3% 19 times out of 20 (95%) When you are measuring a proportion near 50% anyways. This calculator isn't bad: http://www.raosoft.com/samplesize.html (Stolen from the internet) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Curt1591 Posted October 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 For vast majority of Thais, as with the rest of the world, COVID is an intellectual concept. Their only grasp of the disease is the fear that has been promoted. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuwadeeS Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 First of all, this survey is not representative. Now think about it. How much money does tourism brings to Thailand from outside? Then think about how much money is burned by gasoline etc. in cars ??? How much money is bogus and wasted by other things ??? Day by day. If little or no foreign currency comes into the country now, but a lot of money is burned every day, the money in the country will be less ..... And that costs jobs, lots of jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingstonkid Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 There is one thing that everyone is forgetting. The main countries that we would be open to are having MAJOR DIFFICULTIES WITH COVID. Can you honestly say that you would welcome people from the U.S. Canada and U.K. Almost every opther country is having trouble and the pandemic is rising again. Personally I feel for the people that are involved in teh tourism business but, I really do not want to go back to phase 1 and start all over again. Also I am pretty sure that the number of tourists that would be coming are not going to cause Pattaya, NANA and cowboy to become their old selves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mung Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Recent evidence and current data (sourced from Dr Campbell's content) suggests the IFR is between 0.13% and 0.3% - he himself stated that he is very relieved to hear this, as at the beginning of the pandemic the data suggested that the IFR was at around 5-6%. So essentially this virus is around 1.3-3x more lethal than influenza, upon having been infected. Edited October 8, 2020 by Mung 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun P Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Sounds like this is the spin the Government will use in their failed attempt to start tourism. As many TV users have said, very few are willing to jump through all the hoops and extortionate cost to go back to Thailand. What’s the point? It’s all shut down anyway! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mung Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 31 minutes ago, vandeventer said: The most stupid thing I see every day is people riding scooter's and wearing a mask but not having a helmet on. God save us all! Amazing Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbrow Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) What exactly happens when a country declares bankruptcy? Ahhhh, just print more money I guess and come up with a new tourist visa.... Edited October 8, 2020 by paulbrow add to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 If the Population of Thailand fear Covid19 so much , why do absolutely droves of them flaunt the Face Mask wearing Law, and will not use the Hand Sanitizer Sprays. And Social Distancing is something that really is a sham here. Maybe thats the reason for rejecting the Tourists return to the Kingdom. The Thais would have to be seen following the Law, and that is something they dont wish to do . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Foreign tourists are only of concern to those in the tourist industry which is up to 20% of Thai GDP, a huge amount, but in terms of employment not as high as manufacturing or domestic services. Thailand has traditionally given poor treatment to its tourist industry going more for mass numbers than quality and giving priority to agricultural pollution and environmental degradation from factories and fishing. I would have been surprised if most Thais wanted tourists back at all. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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