Double glaze Windows

[pingping]

Hi,

Any one had double glazed windows installed in Chiangmai and were you happy with the results?

Cheers

[beachproperty]

although I didn't get it done in Chiangmai I built a house in Rayong and had the window manufacturer make me double pane windows with 12 mm glass (for sound proofing and insulation). Am very happy as the house is quiet and barely hear the road noise (On a busy beach road).

 

Just look for a glass manufacturer or distributor In Chiangmai ....they should be able to help you.

[Andyfez]

I'm more interested in the savings and effects with air conditioning?

[Oldie]

5 minutes ago, Andyfez said:

I'm more interested in the savings and effects with air conditioning?

You have to look for windows that reflect the heat from the sun. Double glazing alone will not change this. In respect of insulation they will bring something if the other parts of your house or condo are insulated too. Otherwise you will not see much difference. 

[mikebike]

9 minutes ago, Andyfez said:

I'm more interested in the savings and effects with air conditioning?

Double glazed windows will be a big help with AC only if all other insulation and air-tightness is properly done.

[trucking]

14 hours ago, Oldie said:

You have to look for windows that reflect the heat from the sun. Double glazing alone will not change this. In respect of insulation they will bring something if the other parts of your house or condo are insulated too. Otherwise you will not see much difference. 

 

I have covered the inside of all our windows with reflective mirror film. Not a huge difference but for little outlay there is some improvement with the bonus that people cant see in during the daytime.

[sanuk711]

18 hours ago, pingping said:

Hi,

Any one had double glazed windows installed in Chiangmai and were you happy with the results?

Cheers

If you have a single bricked house, Double glazing the windows will not have the effect I think you are looking for pingping

[Oldie]

2 minutes ago, trucking said:

 

I have covered the inside of all our windows with reflective mirror film. Not a huge difference but for little outlay there is some improvement with the bonus that people cant see in during the daytime.

I have films too. That they really help a lot they need to be on the outside of the window - but they will not hold very long then. So like you I enjoy the increased privacy. And my experience is the same - the films are not as good as window glass with special coating. But perhaps better than nothing. 

[sometimewoodworker]

19 hours ago, pingping said:

Any one had double glazed windows installed in Chiangmai and were you happy with the results?

Yes, no, yes.

 

[beau thai]

I had bedrooms double glazed but to keep out sounds- swimming pool kids, soi dogs etc. Works well with the right gap between panes. Then blackout curtains so I dont wake too early

[pingping]

1 hour ago, sometimewoodworker said:

20 hours ago, pingping said:

Hi, Thanks for that info, are your walls single brick?

 

 

 

[AAArdvark]

Also, better if there is argon gas between the panes.  Fiberglass frames also help.

[sometimewoodworker]

33 minutes ago, pingping said:

  1 hour ago, sometimewoodworker said:

21 hours ago, pingping said:

Hi, Thanks for that info, are your walls single brick?

 

 

House build details

[PETERTHEEATER]

12 minutes ago, AAArdvark said:

Also, better if there is argon gas between the panes.  Fiberglass frames also help.

Why argon and not, for example, nitrogen?

[scotty4243]

Installed double glazing and double thick thermal block in our house in CNX, it was expensive but I think worth the cost in quietness and heat / cold retention and also keeping the temperature down, we also insulated the roof space!. Always pleasant to walk into the house even in the summer, we used Khun Oh from CHIANG MAI UPVC WINDOWS & DO0RS  and were happy with her service.

https://www.chiangmaiupvcwindowsdoors.com/about

[sometimewoodworker]

1 hour ago, PETERTHEEATER said:

Why argon and not, for example, nitrogen?

Argon has a lower thermal transmission than nitrogen.

[Mike Rodik]

I need something like that ad

 

I can hear the fountain 50 meter away from my room

 

I can hear the noisy road 250-300 meter way from my room

 

[KhaoYai]

If your planning on changing your windows then double glazed units are not that much more expensive but a lot depends on the original spec.  My house was fitted with the usual poor quality (Chinese I believe), leaky, sliding plastic windows (the alloy ones aren't any better) - I changed them as part of a complete refurb.  I fitted UPVC windows and doors - the windows are all double glazed with 6mm and 4mm low e glass and argon filled cavities.

 

My aim, apart from the general refurb and re-model was to reduce heat penetration, noise and to stop the damned Jing Jocks simply walking under the rubbish brush seals on the old windows.  I still have the ceiling to insulate but there is certainly a reduction in heat penetration but I can't say that's totally down to the windows as I also installed an inner thermal block wall with reflective foil in the cavity. Noise is way down and the Jing Jocks are gone. A bonus is that security is greatly impoved.

 

However, quality windows and doors are more expensive in Thailand than they are in other countries so unless you have a big problem or are planning a refurb - don't expect any payback in your lifetime.  You really need a reason to carry out such a change.  For me, as I say, it was part of a planned refurb/re-model and I had problems with dogs barking at night and critters getting in.

 

When I talk about poor quality Chinese windows, it must be remembered that the weather in Thailand is nowhere near as extreme as it is in Europe for example so whilst they are rubbish in all respects, there is no need for them to be up to the standard of European windows. That said, I'm a believer in 'if its worth doing, its worth doing right.  The windows and doors in my house will never need painting and they should outlast the concrete fabric of the house.

 

You really need a reason to make such a change but if its simply to save a little on your aircon and you're happy with all other aspects, I think you'll be disappointed.

[Peterphuket]

23 hours ago, beachproperty said:

although I didn't get it done in Chiangmai I built a house in Rayong and had the window manufacturer make me double pane windows with 12 mm glass (for sound proofing and insulation). Am very happy as the house is quiet and barely hear the road noise (On a busy beach road).

 

Just look for a glass manufacturer or distributor In Chiangmai ....they should be able to help you.

I did the same with my computer/listening- room, where I most of the day stay.

It was a balcony between living and sleepingroom, so, if you like to sit there, always warm.

I let them build 2 walls 10 cm apart with glasswool in between with 2 windows/frames, and have the same good experience with sound and heat from outside.

The only thing you have to consider is the ceiling that is only separated from the roof by plasterboard.

Happy enough, my ceiling is 290 cm heigh.

 

Edited October 11, 2020 by Peterphuket

[natway09]

Make sure your manufacturer has a vacumm in the space between the frames

[keithathome]

4 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

Argon has a lower thermal transmission than nitrogen.

Very little difference - apart from the cost, like putting nitrogen in car tyres rather than air.

[sometimewoodworker]

11 hours ago, keithathome said:

Very little difference - apart from the cost, like putting nitrogen in car tyres rather than air.

Do get your facts correct. Argon has just under ½ the thermal conductivity of nitrogen, is less reactive and much heavier than nitrogen, so unlike putting nitrogen in car tyres it’s not snake oil.

14 hours ago, natway09 said:

Make sure your manufacturer has a vacumm in the space between the frames

If there were a vacuum the glass would break or be so thick you couldn’t sensibly use it in windows 

[Darkside Gray]

22 hours ago, Andyfez said:

I'm more interested in the savings and effects with air conditioning?

Windows will make very little difference without good roof and wall insulation.

[nevets81]

On 10/11/2020 at 1:26 PM, AAArdvark said:

Also, better if there is argon gas between the panes.  Fiberglass frames also help.

Where can I buy fiberglass frame windows?

[trevoromgh]

17 hours ago, nevets81 said:

Where can I buy fiberglass frame windows?

Presume they meant to say UPVC windows as I've never heard of fibreglass being used in frames before and there are a couple of places I know of in Chiang Mai namely  https://www.chiangmaiupvcwindowsdoors.com/about and  https://www.windsor.co.th/

Have not used them personally so can't recommend them from experience. Maybe someone else can tell us their experience.