Trump calls Fauci a 'disaster' and seeks to reassure his team he can win

[Scott]

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Apparently, the Trump campaign is complaining because the 3rd Presidential debate is supposed to be about foreign policy. But what would have been the 3rd debate is only the 2nd because Trump stomped all over the rules in the first and wouldn't accept the consequences of his coming down with covid and his own bad behavior. So he's not going to get that foreign policy debate but instead more about domestic policy where he's not popular on most issues. Whether it's Covid, immigration, health care, or alternative energy Trump is out of sync with most Americans.  Also, his ignorance about domestic matter will fare poorly against Biden's much deeper command of the issues. - a command which Biden has repeatedly demonstrated in interviews and public fora. These give the lie to all that desperate nonsense about Biden being senile.

[Scott]

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[mtls2005]

"I get this stuff"

 

 

Of course trump used to love to brag about his uncle, John G. Trump (MIT Prof.), and that he (president) shared is his uncle's vast scientific knowledge, which enabled him to deal with the Coronavirus epidemic far better than Fauci, et al.

 

Go figure.

 

 

Edited October 21, 2020 by onthedarkside
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[Scott]

Troll post and reply removed.    The use an acceptable name for the virus.

 

[RocketDog]

On 10/20/2020 at 5:41 AM, scammed said:

both are senile, take it as such and listen to neither

You think you have the luxury of dissociation but you're wrong. 

One will become president but unlike Las Vegas, what happens in America doesn't stay in America. 

 

The entire world has a stake in this election for better or for worse. 

[scammed]

30 minutes ago, RocketDog said:

You think you have the luxury of dissociation but you're wrong. 

One will become president but unlike Las Vegas, what happens in America doesn't stay in America. 

 

The entire world has a stake in this election for better or for worse. 

im well aware of it, otherwise there is no way i would wish trump luck

[Tie Dye Samurai]

On 10/19/2020 at 8:02 PM, steelepulse said:

The problem with Fauci, even by his own admission, is he is not looking at the big picture, such as the cancer patients who can't get treatment, the cardiac patients that can't get treatment, the skyrocketing suicide rates and depression,  and all the other health related issues that are being overlooked.  Then of course he is also not looking at the economy, starvation and everything else that his lockdown recommendations have caused.  Besides all of these issues that are causing worse problems than the coronavirus, he is doing a great job....................................

 

Dr Fauci is director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases....it is not his job or concern on what happens to cardiac patients, cancer patients, mental health issues, etc...His job is to give guidance on an infectious pandemic. It is somebody else's concern to tie all of the other issues together and develop a NATIONAL RESPONSE...you know....a leader....of the country....something the United States is currently ill equipped and in obvious short supply of at the moment.

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1 hour ago, scammed said:

im well aware of it, otherwise there is no way i would wish trump luck

Most of the rest of the world doesn't agree with you.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Here's Trump's legacy on the coronavirus:

 

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The coronavirus pandemic has caused nearly 300,000 more deaths than expected in a typical year

 

The coronavirus pandemic has left about 299,000 more people dead in the United States than would be expected in a typical year, two-thirds of them from covid-19 and the rest from other causes, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Tuesday.

 

The CDC said the novel coronavirus, which causes covid-19, has taken a disproportionate toll on Latinos and Blacks, as previous analyses have noted. But the CDC also found, surprisingly, that it has struck 25- to 44-year-olds very hard: Their “excess death” rate is up 26.5 percent over previous years, the largest change for any age group.

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/coronavirus-excess-deaths/2020/10/20/1e1d77c6-12e1-11eb-ba42-ec6a580836ed_story.html

 

Edited October 21, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[billd766]

On 10/20/2020 at 7:29 AM, blazes said:

 

He's a pompous ass, and has indeed sown total confusion with his contradictory statements about travel to or from China, or it's no use (today) wearing a mask, and (tomorrow) people should wear a mask wherever possible.

Fauci is a civil servant, so can get away with making contradictory statements ( the same thing has occurred in the UK with disastrous results).  Trump earlier on was following Fauci and his contradictions, but because he is a politician he can't get away with making these contradictory statements. 

If Trump is at fault it is because he failed to do adequate research into Fauci's qualifications.  Just cos he's been there for decades does not grant him immunity from being ludicrous.  Anyone who's been in a work environment where a person is allowed to stay on and on and on knows how poisonous the atmosphere can get. 

In the meantime, the doc is adored by a lot of suburban housewives who will not be voting for Trump.  And that should make him happy as he approaches 80.....

Dr Fauci is fairly close to being the top expert in his profession. Anthony Stephen Fauci is an American physician and immunologist who has served as the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984. You don't get into that position if you are stupid.

 

Can I ask you whatqualifications you have as a physician and immunologist or even any medical qualifications you may have? You are trotting out the lines of President Trump who also has no medical qualifications and is a bankrupt, a serial liar (well over 2x,xxx lies in less than 4 years) who is the POTUS and probably the worst one that I can remember and my memory goes back to JFK in the early 1960s.

 

Trump has done more damage to the USA and its relations with the rest of the world than the rest of the previous Presidents put together. He has the attention span of a 5 year old child and acts like one too. He seems to think that he can do anything he wants as POTUS and that nobody can stop him. If anybody on the WH staff speaks out against him they get fired. He is being rejected by many republicans in the house, senate and by many individual states as well.

 

More citizens voted against him, but the Electoral College voted narrowly in his favour, so you can't even blame the citizens of the USA for him.

 

I truly hope that he is voted out on November 3rd and hands over the office of POTUS peacefully. After that let the cards fall as they may.

[billd766]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

Dr Fauci is fairly close to being the top expert in his profession. Anthony Stephen Fauci is an American physician and immunologist who has served as the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984. You don't get into that position if you are stupid.

 

Can I ask you whatqualifications you have as a physician and immunologist or even any medical qualifications you may have? You are trotting out the lines of President Trump who also has no medical qualifications and is a bankrupt, a serial liar (well over 2x,xxx lies in less than 4 years) who is the POTUS and probably the worst one that I can remember and my memory goes back to JFK in the early 1960s.

 

Trump has done more damage to the USA and its relations with the rest of the world than the rest of the previous Presidents put together. He has the attention span of a 5 year old child and acts like one too. He seems to think that he can do anything he wants as POTUS and that nobody can stop him. If anybody on the WH staff speaks out against him they get fired. He is being rejected by many republicans in the house, senate and by many individual states as well.

 

More citizens voted against him, but the Electoral College voted narrowly in his favour, so you can't even blame the citizens of the USA for him.

 

I truly hope that he is voted out on November 3rd and hands over the office of POTUS peacefully. After that let the cards fall as they may.

@blazes Nice to see the laughter emoji but a little sad as you didn't reply to my questions.

 

quote "Can I ask you what qualifications you have as a physician and immunologist or even any medical qualifications you may have?

[candide]

4 hours ago, billd766 said:

@blazes Nice to see the laughter emoji but a little sad as you didn't reply to my questions.

 

quote "Can I ask you what qualifications you have as a physician and immunologist or even any medical qualifications you may have?

Expert in Trumps tweets! ????

[chilli42]

Trump is an accident waiting to happen ... and in some cases has already happened.

 

Fauci on the other hand is capable and knowledgeable ... that does not make his conclusions and advice right.  Every "expert" runs their knowledge and expertise through their own personal filter/lens.  So agree with Fauci's command of the facts but disagree with his conclusions/recommended action plan.  

[onthedarkside]

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[RobFord]

On 10/20/2020 at 6:49 AM, ThailandRyan said:

All I can say is, if at first you don't succeed to derail a campaign before an election you just open up your mouth and try again.  If this guy gets elected after all the shenanigans then maybe he himself isn't such an idiot and he plays the drama card to the end much like a Thai Lakorn.

Or, in other words, never underestimate the stupidity of the American public. Voting for Trump twice is the epitome of stupidity. I’m betting 45 % of that population will cast Republican. They will be defined by this next election. 

[heybruce]

9 hours ago, RobFord said:

Or, in other words, never underestimate the stupidity of the American public. Voting for Trump twice is the epitome of stupidity. I’m betting 45 % of that population will cast Republican. They will be defined by this next election. 

In fairness to real Republicans, Trump has turned the party into something completely different, and in some cases the exact opposite, of what it once was.  The current Republican party is the biggest RINO around.

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1 hour ago, heybruce said:

In fairness to real Republicans, Trump has turned the party into something completely different, and in some cases the exact opposite, of what it once was.  The current Republican party is the biggest RINO around.

I disagree with you literally almost 100%.

On what issues do the Republicans under Trump differ from Republicans before Trump?

On taxes? Clearly not. Still touting the same nonsense that tax cuts pay for themselves and that allowing corporations to repatriate funds will result in more investment and growth.

Climate change. Still in denial. Keep in mind that Republicans were the ones who came up with the idea of the carbon tax way back when.

Racial Issues? Nixon's southern strategy, Reagan's welfare queens, George H.W. Bush's Willie Horton ad. Appointing justices who support undercutting voting rights of minorities. Among other things.

Abortion rights? Under George Bush government took all kinds of antiabortion measures. Pushed hard for abstinence funding. Cut off aid to family planning abroad to organizations that supported abortion rights.

Science? Starting with Reagan began promoting junk science to support regulations and de-regulation

Environment. Starting with Reagan began a policy of denialism about pollution. Opening up protect lands to mining. Deregulation to support increases in polluting activities.

This list is hardly exhaustive.

Only on international trade do Trump and the Republicans differ significantly from the previous Republican stances.

[heybruce]

10 hours ago, placeholder said:

I disagree with you literally almost 100%.

On what issues do the Republicans under Trump differ from Republicans before Trump?

On taxes? Clearly not. Still touting the same nonsense that tax cuts pay for themselves and that allowing corporations to repatriate funds will result in more investment and growth.

Climate change. Still in denial. Keep in mind that Republicans were the ones who came up with the idea of the carbon tax way back when.

Racial Issues? Nixon's southern strategy, Reagan's welfare queens, George H.W. Bush's Willie Horton ad. Appointing justices who support undercutting voting rights of minorities. Among other things.

Abortion rights? Under George Bush government took all kinds of antiabortion measures. Pushed hard for abstinence funding. Cut off aid to family planning abroad to organizations that supported abortion rights.

Science? Starting with Reagan began promoting junk science to support regulations and de-regulation

Environment. Starting with Reagan began a policy of denialism about pollution. Opening up protect lands to mining. Deregulation to support increases in polluting activities.

This list is hardly exhaustive.

Only on international trade do Trump and the Republicans differ significantly from the previous Republican stances.

Republicans used to be the party promoting free trade, more legal immigration, a pathway to citizenship for illegals living and working in the US, a tough line on Russian aggression and making the US the leader of the free world.  Under Trump the Republican party has done a 180 on all these issues.

[RJRS1301]

11 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Republicans used to be the party promoting free trade, more legal immigration, a pathway to citizenship for illegals living and working in the US, a tough line on Russian aggression and making the US the leader of the free world.  Under Trump the Republican party has done a 180 on all these issues.

So not really MAGA as promised you think??

 

[Sujo]

I think we all know who the disaster is. 230,000 and counting. They never had a plan and have now raised the white flag.

 

All guns blazing into a herd immunity, that doesnt exist.

 

Go trump, just go.

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1 hour ago, heybruce said:

Republicans used to be the party promoting free trade, more legal immigration, a pathway to citizenship for illegals living and working in the US, a tough line on Russian aggression and making the US the leader of the free world.  Under Trump the Republican party has done a 180 on all these issues.

Pretty small beer compared to the similarities.

[heybruce]

8 hours ago, placeholder said:

Pretty small beer compared to the similarities.

Promoting conspiracy theories (the Obama birther nonsense) got Trump serious attention in politics.  Bashing immigrants is what got him elected.  I think turning the Republican party from one advocating legal immigration to one hostile to immigrants is a big deal.  It certainly is with Trump's base.

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1 hour ago, heybruce said:

Promoting conspiracy theories (the Obama birther nonsense) got Trump serious attention in politics.  Bashing immigrants is what got him elected.  I think turning the Republican party from one advocating legal immigration to one hostile to immigrants is a big deal.  It certainly is with Trump's base.

Trump has done for the republicans just what he did for the various other despicable facets of American culture- he empowered the sordid underbelly to come to the fore.  May he rot in jail along with his enablers.