With time running out, Trump to go on offensive at debate in bid to catch Biden

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28 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

 

Very sad you deflect the subject.  Terrible.

Watch a repeat of the debate.  The issues have nothing to do with childhood stuttering.  Cognitive decline, lights nobody home.

Just because you use phrases like "Cognitive decline", that doesn't make you a gerontologist.

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3 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

I suspect you are right. Trump only has one job to do in this debate. Bring the Biden's uncomfortable dealings to the fore and wipe the moderators face in the coverup. He has played an ace card already, by inviting the corroborating witness in the email scandal. Biden will not be laughing about this-

 

Mr Bobulinski claims that he was CEO of Sinohawk Holdings, a firm that he alleged was “a partnership between the Chinese operating through CEFC/Chairman Ye and the Biden family", Fox News reported.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/trump-final-debate-hunter-binder-tony-bobulinski-who-is-b1233172.html

 

The Independant did not bother to report that Mr Bobulinski is one of the participants in the damning emails, and he has confirmed Biden seniors involvement. This will be very intimidating for Mr Biden IMO. Hope he can keep his stuff together.

 

Poor old senile Joe Biden shut down Trump attempt nicely with his retort about Trump not showing his taxes.

[Hamus Yaigh]

47 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Also, shots of Biden's face shout out "Lights on, nobody home."  Trump clearly winning.

More unbiased reporting from you again I see. Personally I found the debate to be a more civilized event with a decent moderator than the first farce. Both sides came off OK out of it. Probably a good thing for the country as a whole.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

That was a good debate.

Covid - Trump lost as he sounded silly at times and said the same old stuff.

Hunter Biden - Trump didn't get far with that.

Immigrant kids missing parents and poor blacks near polluted oil fields - Trump sounded like he didn't care.

Oil industry - Trump might win a few votes by focussing on green plans to move away from oil. 

Joe Biden's long career and eight years in office without achieving these things - Trump did well on this but now he's had 4 years too.

Biden was good today. He does falter at times but as others have said he has a real stutter - there's no sign of mental decline - he's a bit slower.  He gave good answers and held up his own end.

Trump had to win and I don't think he did. Biden is looking good.

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[Berkshire]

52 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

At this point in the debate Biden's cognitive decline is readily apparent, fumbling for words.  Also, shots of Biden's face shout out "Lights on, nobody home."  Trump clearly winning.

Non-stop lying from Trump.  That's not winning.  Biden held his own and that's all he needed to do.

[EVENKEEL]

48 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

I guess you don't know his history.  He had the stutters as a child.  Worked really hard to over come it.  But still has issues.

 

Sad you bash others with difficulties like this.  Terrible.

joe's problem goes further than stuttering, he has that far away, glazed look in his eyes. As he's trying so hard to understand what's being said. Whereas Trump is quick and doesn't miss a beat when replying. 

[EVENKEEL]

Who built the cages joe?? crickets......

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3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

joe's problem goes further than stuttering, he has that far away, glazed look in his eyes. As he's trying so hard to understand what's being said. Whereas Trump is quick and doesn't miss a beat when replying. 

I loved Trump's quick comeback when Biden retorted about Trump's failure to reveal his taxes. I just can't seem to quite recall it. Can you help me?

[Jingthing]

Bottom line.

 

This won't turn the election around for 45.

Not even close.

He will still lose.

But he did well enough that the chances of a dramatic mandate landslide for Biden and the democratics taking the senate are reduced.

 

So in that sense I'm disappointed.  Biden winning is necessary but without a strong mandate and full control of congress he will be limited in what he can do because the remaining Republicans are mostly going to be extremely right wing.

 

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[stevenl]

I think the debate worked out well for Trump. The changed format made him look far less like the bully he is, and he even landed a few punches. Of course he lied countless times and received a few punches as well, but all in all he survived without any harm done.

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[EVENKEEL]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I loved Trump's quick comeback when Biden retorted about Trump's failure to reveal his taxes. I just can't seem to quite recall it. Can you help me?

Old news, move on. As said by others lights on, nobody home sounds like ole joe.

[TopDeadSenter]

16 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Poor old senile Joe Biden shut down Trump attempt nicely with his retort about Trump not showing his taxes.

I don't understand you here. Are you saying Trump's tax returns are a bigger issue than the democrat candidate being implicated in an exploding corruption scandal across several nations? A scandal with evidence and corroboration from those involved mounting up daily, and inane media censorship and MSM pushing more duplicitous Russia disinfo allegations against National Intelligence and the DOJ who already said Russia has nothing to do with it. The fakery and previously unheard of censorship outside of North Korea and China giving the story coverage that Barbara Streisand could only dream of. It is a national disaster. And you fret about Trumps tax returns??!!

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Now Corruption Story Is About Joe, Not Hunter

How long can the media blackout continue?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/now-corruption-story-is-about-joe-not-hunter-11603392288

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

I think debate worked out well for Trump. The changed format made him look far less like the bully he is, and he even landed a few punches. Of course he lied countless times and received a few punches as well, but all in all he survived without any harm done.

But that's bottom line a loss for 45. It was Biden that just needed not to harm himself. 45s massive task was to turn the election around in his direction. He failed in that.

[Eric Loh]

Joe ability to connect with the people and project himself as the president for all Americans are to me the most striking difference in the debate. Trump just don’t have the intelligence to articulate effectively. 

 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

17 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

joe's problem goes further than stuttering, he has that far away, glazed look in his eyes. As he's trying so hard to understand what's being said. Whereas Trump is quick and doesn't miss a beat when replying. 

Jim Carrey picks up on that Biden look well on Saturday Night Live. Biden may be slower but Trump is way way ahead on dopey comments.

I  don't mind having a President who takes his time to make a good decision, rather than a President who just goes by what comes into his head, or what he sees on  Fox News or how it benefits himself. He says he goes by gut instinct but that's a concern when you think you are a genius but you are not.  

Edited October 23, 2020 by Fat is a type of crazy

[sucit]

Biden's chance of winning 65/35

 

Biden's chance of being alive and coherent after the election 20/80

[Tug]

3 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

I don't understand you here. Are you saying Trump's tax returns are a bigger issue than the democrat candidate being implicated in an exploding corruption scandal across several nations? A scandal with evidence and corroboration from those involved mounting up daily, and inane media censorship and MSM pushing more duplicitous Russia disinfo allegations against National Intelligence and the DOJ who already said Russia has nothing to do with it. The fakery and previously unheard of censorship outside of North Korea and China giving the story coverage that Barbara Streisand could only dream of. It is a national disaster. And you fret about Trumps tax returns??!!

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Now Corruption Story Is About Joe, Not Hunter

How long can the media blackout continue?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/now-corruption-story-is-about-joe-not-hunter-11603392288

Grasping at straws are we lol I’m enjoying watching them fact-checks trumps reply’s imo joe won the debate hands down 

[Jingthing]

Another good thing that Biden did was that he didn't play it too safe. Given that his main job was to hold his lead and not risk a fatal error it was probably tempting to just sit on the ball. He did attack and did take some risks and I think the public will appreciate that better than being too risk averse. 

[EVENKEEL]

2 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Jim Carrey picks up on that Biden look well on Saturday Night Live. Biden may be slower but Trump is way way ahead on dopey comments.

I'd  don't mind having a President who takes his time to make a good decision, rather than a President who just goes by what comes into his head, or what he sees on  Fox News or how it benefits himself. He says he goes by gut instinct but that's a concern when you think you are a genius but you are not.  

I don't have a problem with ole joe much, it's the influence the far, far left will have on him and his decision making.

It seems it takes joe longer than it should to hear the question and come up with a response.

[Jeffr2]

21 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

joe's problem goes further than stuttering, he has that far away, glazed look in his eyes. As he's trying so hard to understand what's being said. Whereas Trump is quick and doesn't miss a beat when replying. 

Stuttering causes that.  Trying to get the words out when you can. 

 

Trump didn't miss a beat...with his lies and bashing others.  But that's typical of him.  One reason the nation is so divided.

[simple1]

25 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Joe Biden's long career and eight years in office without achieving these things - Trump did well on this but now he's had 4 years too.

 

Most of the time republicans controlled the Senate and blocked (all?)  attempts to pass legislation by Dems. Did you note trump's lack of reply to Biden's, albeit brief, comment on this issue? IMO Biden did a poor job with dealing with trump's repeated accusations on this matter. However, overall IMO trump was repeating the same old stuff, plus no policy vision for the future. IMO Biden did a lot better job positioning a future under his presidency. Biden to win!

[Jeffr2]

19 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Who built the cages joe?? crickets......

And who separated children from their parents and put them there?  crickets...

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4 minutes ago, sucit said:

Biden's chance of winning 65/35

 

Biden's chance of being alive and coherent after the election 20/80

Ya sure about that?

 

Biden is slightly healthier, study says, but both presidential candidates may be ‘super-agers’

The presidential candidates and their supporters will likely keep belittling the other guy as a doddering old fool, but a group of geriatric experts say in a new paper that both President Trump and challenger Joe Biden appear to have the physical and cognitive tools to make it through four years in the White House.

In fact, the two candidates’ relative good health and other advantages — parental longevity, access to top-notch healthcare and abstinence from smoking and drinking — suggest both men are likely to become long-living “super-agers,” who thrive well into their 80s, or beyond, according to a draft report written by three medical doctors and four researchers with expertise in public health, survival analysis and statistics.

Three of the authors of the paper — Stuart Jay Olshansky, a public health professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago; Dr. Bradley Willcox, director of research in the Department of Geriatric Medicine at the University of Hawaii’s medical school; and UCLA Professor Hiram Beltran-Sanchez, an authority on the demographics of aging — wrote previously about how presidents tend to outlive average Americans.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-09-25/biden-trump-super-agers-longevity-study

[EVENKEEL]

2 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Stuttering causes that.  Trying to get the words out when you can. 

 

Trump didn't miss a beat...with his lies and bashing others.  But that's typical of him.  One reason the nation is so divided.

I had a ginormous stuttering problem when younger, so no it's not typical. If it is then you have to know your limitations, like maybe I shouldn't be president if I can't convey my thoughts. 

[Jeffr2]

13 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

I don't understand you here. Are you saying Trump's tax returns are a bigger issue than the democrat candidate being implicated in an exploding corruption scandal across several nations? A scandal with evidence and corroboration from those involved mounting up daily, and inane media censorship and MSM pushing more duplicitous Russia disinfo allegations against National Intelligence and the DOJ who already said Russia has nothing to do with it. The fakery and previously unheard of censorship outside of North Korea and China giving the story coverage that Barbara Streisand could only dream of. It is a national disaster. And you fret about Trumps tax returns??!!

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Now Corruption Story Is About Joe, Not Hunter

How long can the media blackout continue?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/now-corruption-story-is-about-joe-not-hunter-11603392288

Your referring to the conspiracy theory with Hunter?  The one that was investigated by Ron Johnson and other republicans who found no wrong doing?

 

Republican Inquiry Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Biden - The New York Times

 

There is no media blackout.  Here's an interesting article.  One we should all be concerned with.  But his supporters don't want to read about this.  Can't harm their idol.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/10/us/trump-properties-swamp.html

The Swamp That Trump Built

A businessman-president transplanted favor-seeking in Washington to his family’s hotels and resorts — and earned millions as a gatekeeper to his own administration.

[Jeffr2]

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-nw-nyt-trump-taxes-china-20201021-uy27ueqbrrgyleq7ajcntdzgym-story.html

Garten would not identify the bank in China where the account is held. Until last year, China’s biggest state-controlled bank rented three floors in Trump Tower, a lucrative lease that drew accusations of a conflict of interest for the president.

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12 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I had a ginormous stuttering problem when younger, so no it's not typical. If it is then you have to know your limitations, like maybe I shouldn't be president if I can't convey my thoughts. 

Sure you did. And I alway believe the claims of an anonymous poster on the internet. 

Especially when he contradicts the experts:

The Pauses and Phrasing Technique

This one relies on the same principle as the reduced rate technique: buying your brain more time to speak more fluently.

To do it, add more pauses into your speech in reasonable, natural places than normal.

It’ll take some of the mental workload off your brain, freeing it up for more fluent speech.

https://slpstephen.com/blogs/news/the-complete-list-of-stuttering-treatment-techniques#:~:text=The Pauses and Phrasing Technique,reasonable%2C natural places than normal.

Nor this one:

https://www.stutteringhelp.org/sites/default/files/Migrate/book0012_11th_ed.pdf

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[joecoolfrog]

20 minutes ago, sucit said:

Biden's chance of winning 65/35

 

Biden's chance of being alive and coherent after the election 20/80

Trumps chances of avoiding jail ?

[2 is 1]

28 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

And you fret about Trumps tax returns??!!

So you think it's ok that Trump hide hes tax record!? Fact is he's companys pay tax's other coundry's but not in US!

Hes bokkeeper's work can't see "daylight" . He's make big loose's is the reason don't need pay tax in US, but in China hes make only loose's  also and still pay tax there! So he "round" tax's only in hes own coundry!

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[thaibeachlovers]

Watched the "debate". Another waste of 90 minutes of my life. While few interruptions I learned nothing I didn't already know.

I suppose it keeps political pundits employed though. Saw them pontificating on CNN, Fox, BBC, Al Jazira as though the "debate" had been some sort of important event.

I can't believe that anyone would decide how to vote on that conversation. It was like two old guys having an argument down at the pub.