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OPINION: When hoteliers emerge from 2020, the business will be hard


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3 hours ago, webfact said:

passenger arrivals have plunged and there are no imminent signs of recovery, despite the country opening up to domestic air travel and guests from Bangkok

 

no surprise here ...

 

 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

local demand cannot stem the dramatic losses on Phuket, nor reverse the rapidly escalating financial and social crisis,

 

financial and social crisis ... will there be an end to it soon ? Guess not ...

 

 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

our 78 members to prepare for the inevitable return of international arrivals

 

INEVITABLE ?

 

 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

It’s going to be a very slow climb back to any reasonable numbers

 

Looks like ...

 

 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Drinking water should be in glass bottles, plentiful and complimentary. There must be a unilateral end to plastic shampoo bottles and laundered garments shrouded in cling plastic have to go. In Phuket, we challenged our member hotels to remove plastic water bottles in 2018, which resulted in a reduction of six million plastic bottles from our landfills. 

 

That is one of the few good things the virus brought , together with the ameliorations for tourists in hotels .

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The airline industry WW is going bust as we speak. 
If this is so and the CV continues, how in the world do you think that any country w a hotel industry would ever survive even past 2026? 

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5 hours ago, webfact said:

As President of the Phuket Hotels Association, our 78 members to prepare for the inevitable return of international arrivals. After several aborted plans, the Thai government is considering ‘green bridges’ or “bubbles” that may allow entry to foreigners from countries or regions with little or no Covid-19 infections, hopefully from countries such as New Zealand, Singapore, Taiwan, China and Australia.

 

Inevitably, China - the origin of the Wuhan virus who withheld information including the number of infected cases - is squeezed into the small list as countries with "little or no Covid-19 infections.

 

Listen again : China has little or no Covid-19 infections!

 

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OP Anthony the article was a good read and doable. I’m retired now

prior business travel 30 years Southwest US and APAC. Whether 

Business or Holiday having a comfortable accommodation makes

a huge difference. 

 

Hotels / Resorts that can accomplish most if not all of the ideas

in long run will see how treating people with a good atmosphere and staff that really care and there’s a lot out their (Thailand) not

only you have a satisfied customer first stay and return customers.

 

Wish all the hoteliers success in making Thailand a go to destination for many years to come....

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28 minutes ago, howbri said:

The covid  hysteria has killed many more than the virus itself with lockdowns, 

Are you sure that is a fact or is it just an uninformed guess?

The first lockdown was being reported as saving many lives and not just from covid19.  Less people were dying at work, on the roads and especially there was a big fall in deaths due to improved air quality. 

 

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6 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

add to that say 200 millions jobs world wide for the stupidity of nations closing and we have 300,000,000 jobs and families losing their lives, income and houses for 1 million deaths (95% of which were old and and too fat), and the figures just dont add up anymore (if they ever did)

You keep banging this drum whilst conveniently ignoring the fact that there was 'only' 1 million deaths' precisely because countries locked-down and self-isolated.

There are many reports on how many would have died worldwide if this hadn't been done and the numbers are staggering (7 million at the low end, 40 million at the high end). What number would have been big enough for you to say 'yeah, that's too much'? 2 million dead? 7 million dead? 30 million dead?

We all understand the horrible economic repurcussions for this (I personally have had to let 17 staff go) but with such staggering numbers of deaths predicted,  can anyone in all conscious say it would have been a 'good' price to pay just for economics sake?   

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52968523

https://www.businessinsider.com/covid19-model-predicts-40-million-people-could-die-without-interventions-2020-3

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Also it would be far more than 1 million deaths. The 1 million are those that were not saved. There will be many more deaths before it ends despite lockdowns.

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Just now, khunPer said:

Many of the suggestions make good sense...:thumbsup:

Only to luxury hotels the rest will just think of them as ways to lose money.

If the changes to breakfasts and minibars get introduced I will be happy. An overpriced minibar is a big turn off to me. I just fill them with my own beer. And as for being charged for WiFi anywhere these days is a rip off. 

Personally I dislike luxury hotels - too much BS and boring inmates. Give me a decent guest house anyday. Unfortunately the boss likes her little luxuries and a swimming pool (and the boy loves chocolate from the minbar).

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7 hours ago, webfact said:

Goodbye to 50% or even 100% room charges for late check-outs. Let’s be better at allocating rooms. There should always be a private space for guests who arrive before 2 pm and if hotels are not 100% full, guests should be able to leave after midday without being whacked with a half-day charge. 

 

We recently stayed at what on the Agoda site claimed was a 5 star hotel.     I don't really know the difference between a 4 and 5 star hotel.      I only know it was very nice and cost only 1700 baht which included an outstanding breakfast buffet.     Due to prior commitments we could only stay the  one night.

What really surprised me was  when we checked in the reception staff asked us when we planned to check out the following day.     I told them we would be leaving shortly after 10:00 A.M. and the clerk replied we were welcome to check out at 1:00 P.M. if we so chose.     I believe that's the fist time I've ever been proffered that.

Next time in Bangkok I know where we'll be staying.   It was right on the river as well.

 

 

Posted
8 hours ago, webfact said:

When hoteliers emerge from 2020, the business will be hard

More like cut-throat all trying to win any customers.

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6 minutes ago, Andy from Kent said:

 

We recently stayed at what on the Agoda site claimed was a 5 star hotel.     I don't really know the difference between a 4 and 5 star hotel.      I only know it was very nice and cost only 1700 baht which included an outstanding breakfast buffet.     Due to prior commitments we could only stay the  one night.

What really surprised me was  when we checked in the reception staff asked us when we planned to check out the following day.     I told them we would be leaving shortly after 10:00 A.M. and the clerk replied we were welcome to check out at 1:00 P.M. if we so chose.     I believe that's the fist time I've ever been proffered that.

Next time in Bangkok I know where we'll be staying.   It was right on the river as well.

 

 

How long have they offered that? I doubt it would have been offered this time last year.

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6 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

The 1 Million deaths were mitigated by the lockdown back in April, had countries not done that, the figure would have been a lot higher. We're already starting to see the number increase because people are stupid hence another lockdown.

What else do you think we should do?

 

Carry on excluding everyone until it’s safe to do so. ????????

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5 minutes ago, hotchilli said:
8 hours ago, webfact said:

When hoteliers emerge from 2020, the business will be hard

More like cut-throat all trying to win any customer

And then pad the bill more than ever.

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1 hour ago, howbri said:

I'm one of the "oldies" at 78 and I agree with Mr. Coleman. The covid  hysteria has killed many more than the virus itself with lockdowns,  loss of income and business. How many people are able to survive their current status without income for 9-12 months (and much longer it appears). Governments ARE to blame, at least the swamp dwellers and globalists who are in fact socialists and communist. Their only goal is control, control, control. Well soon these freaks won't have anything to control.

Don't worry...

 

At 78 you won't be "controlled" for long.

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