Trump does not plan to concede any time soon, aides and allies indicate

[RJRS1301]

Just now, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

And where is this great non-concession effort? Surely in the office, mobilizing his team, on the phone with lawyers, officials, dispatching them to election offices, demanding answers? No, he’s on the golf course again. One of the many issues with his presidency.

Will they continue to foot the bill for his fees into the future alone with his service detail? 

 

[tonray]

36 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Very likely he will continue playing golf, sulking and the occasional Twitter storm until January 20.

After January 20th, preparing for court appearances and filing lawsuits to delay subpoenas for incriminating documents...I wouldn't want to be him

[EVENKEEL]

7 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Plenty of MAGA merch will be available for you I am sure. You could do the car boot sales of redunant stuff

One or two containers sir??

You pay the shipping

 

Stop it you're embarrassing yourself.

[Boon Mee]

Trump should never concede. Full stop! ???? 

[mtls2005]

Is vp pence OK? Any sightings?

 

Seems like he'll be needed for pardons?

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

16 minutes ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

And where is this great non-concession effort? Surely in the office, mobilizing his team, on the phone with lawyers, officials, dispatching them to election offices, demanding answers? No, he’s on the golf course again. One of the many issues with his presidency.

I think playing golf is the best he can do for America.

At least while he does that he doesn't <deleted> up anything else.

[TopDeadSenter]

10 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Evidence acceptable to the courts is important, not anedotal hearsay from a friend of a friend, is what is required. The courts do not act with real evidence, present their case and see how due process works out

Agree entirely. If there is no evidence, then there is no substance to the claims. However Trump's team must be given time to sort through the irregularities. Issues like the 6,000 GOP votes in Antrim co, MI which were magically converted to be Biden votes MUST be fully investigated. Was it a computer glitch? If so how many other counties used the faulty software? Was it human error? If so was it an accident, or was it repeated on any substantial scale?

 Without knowing the details and evidence, there is just no way Trump should concede. His fans will never forgive him for not fighting this. And one thing Trump does not do, is run from trouble.

[Sujo]

2 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Agree entirely. If there is no evidence, then there is no substance to the claims. However Trump's team must be given time to sort through the irregularities. Issues like the 6,000 GOP votes in Antrim co, MI which were magically converted to be Biden votes MUST be fully investigated. Was it a computer glitch? If so how many other counties used the faulty software? Was it human error? If so was it an accident, or was it repeated on any substantial scale?

 Without knowing the details and evidence, there is just no way Trump should concede. His fans will never forgive him for not fighting this. And one thing Trump does not do, is run from trouble.

There is one thing trump does its make trouble.

 

i hope he doesnt concede so that he is evicted screaming in front of the cameras.

[Thailand]

Give it a few days and Trump will realise that his chances of pardon      are rapidly diminishing and he will be begging to be protected from the litigations waiting for citizen Trump.

[RJRS1301]

26 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Agree entirely. If there is no evidence, then there is no substance to the claims. However Trump's team must be given time to sort through the irregularities. Issues like the 6,000 GOP votes in Antrim co, MI which were magically converted to be Biden votes MUST be fully investigated. Was it a computer glitch? If so how many other counties used the faulty software? Was it human error? If so was it an accident, or was it repeated on any substantial scale?

 Without knowing the details and evidence, there is just no way Trump should concede. His fans will never forgive him for not fighting this. And one thing Trump does not do, is run from trouble.

Perhaps it would at this stage be prudent to use the " alledged" Issues like the 6,000 GOP votes in Antrim co, MI which were magically converted to be Biden votes MUST be fully investigated

It is now several days post allegations and nothing presented to courts to uphold the claims, I am sure the team of investigators and lawyers would have had the courts filed by now if there was supporting FACTS

[Berkshire]

It's so transparent what Trump is doing.  He doesn't want to admit to his minions that he lost, so he'll play this fraud game to the end.  And when there's no hope, he'll say "I won, but for the good of the country, I'm going to step aside."  Real big of him. 

 

But with Trump, there's always another motive.  The WSJ is reporting that Trump is using this voter fraud nonsense to raise money to payoff a mountain of campaign debt.  And as usual, his idiot supporters will send in their meager grocery money to help Trump chase a made-up fraud claim.  

[RJRS1301]

30 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Agree entirely. If there is no evidence, then there is no substance to the claims. However Trump's team must be given time to sort through the irregularities. Issues like the 6,000 GOP votes in Antrim co, MI which were magically converted to be Biden votes MUST be fully investigated. Was it a computer glitch? If so how many other counties used the faulty software? Was it human error? If so was it an accident, or was it repeated on any substantial scale?

 Without knowing the details and evidence, there is just no way Trump should concede. His fans will never forgive him for not fighting this. And one thing Trump does not do, is run from trouble.

Interesting term : "his fans",

I thought informed voters went to the polls.

It is not the Oscars he was competeing for.

 

[BritManToo]

Just now, TopDeadSenter said:

Do you want a legitimate President, or not?

You know the answer.

[Berkshire]

5 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

My point is, how many irregularities like this (and others) exist. Why do democrat supporters want to censor and silence the investigation of these issues? Do you want a legitimate President, or not?

Perhaps they should be checking the red states, like Texas and Florida.  I'll bet there's more legitimate fraud claims there, not to mention voter suppression and intimidation.  How much evidence do I have?  Same as you.   

[Lacessit]

Trump will never concede. That would make him a loser, and he despises that ilk. In his mindset, there are only winners and losers.  I just feel sorry for the people that will contribute to the futile legal challenges, not knowing it's just another con of his.

Don't get too comfortable yet, folks. He can still do a lot of damage to America up until January 20. For example, the pandemic can continue to be ignored while he lashes out on Twitter, promoting division and hatred.

Trump will leave the Presidency with the same grace that he entered it. The real fun will begin when he loses Presidential immunity.

Edited November 9, 2020 by Lacessit

[pixelaoffy]

All the pathetic trump pimps who have dieted on his b******t for _ years can't get it out their head! ' The man lost ' 

[TopDeadSenter]

2 minutes ago, Sujo said:

The was already an investigation into it, explained, fixed. 

 

Tell me, how many are like that.

Not good enough. The poster above claimed the 6,000 vote "mistake" was a myth. Didn't happen. Called it an "Alledged" incident.

 

 Yet here you claim it's already been investigated. But to whose satisfaction? and were there full investigations of every other country countrywide that used the same software? Why did I not read full reports into the investigation on CNN, MSNBC, Reuters, AP? How are posters still able to dub the incident a fallacy?

 

 You can see the difference of opinion between two democrat supporters(6,000 vote switcheroo didn't happen at all vs happened but was fixed and all cool now), right? For the last time. Without exhaustive investigations into the fraud which Trump speaks of, Biden will never be legitimate. 

 

FTR seeing the reaction to these issues, I want to see a full audit for each and every vote. Regardless of the media rage and how long it takes.

[Lacessit]

I'm wondering how many of the "we was robbed" Trump supporters on this thread and others will be contributing to the fundraising for the legal challenges, i.e. putting their money where their mouth is.

[herfiehandbag]

6 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

FTR seeing the reaction to these issues, I want to see a full audit for each and every vote. Regardless of the media rage and how long it takes.

Keep it up old chap, it does so help to pass the time whilst we wait for the inevitable "Final Meltdown".

[Antonymous]

1 hour ago, RJRS1301 said:

Perhaps all the "haters" as you refer to those who disagreed with his administration, will do something about healing the rift caused by such a polarising figure of incompetence.

 

I have seen such reactions to an election before, large crowds dancing in the street, feeling that they have been heard.

 

Biden has publicly called for the nation to heal, to be a 'united' States. Does anyone believe that will happen?

 

Here is what is actually happening right now:

 

 

[Sujo]

13 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Not good enough. The poster above claimed the 6,000 vote "mistake" was a myth. Didn't happen. Called it an "Alledged" incident.

 

 Yet here you claim it's already been investigated. But to whose satisfaction? and were there full investigations of every other country countrywide that used the same software? Why did I not read full reports into the investigation on CNN, MSNBC, Reuters, AP? How are posters still able to dub the incident a fallacy?

 

 You can see the difference of opinion between two democrat supporters(6,000 vote switcheroo didn't happen at all vs happened but was fixed and all cool now), right? For the last time. Without exhaustive investigations into the fraud which Trump speaks of, Biden will never be legitimate. 

 

FTR seeing the reaction to these issues, I want to see a full audit for each and every vote. Regardless of the media rage and how long it takes.

Its your own fault if you complain about not knowing about something. There was a specific issue which was corrected.

 

i dont think anyone cares what you want to happen. Make up your mind, counting stopped, counting done no matter how long it takes.

 

biden will be legitimate in january whether you like it or not. Chill <deleted> chill.

[Tug]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Agree entirely. If there is no evidence, then there is no substance to the claims. However Trump's team must be given time to sort through the irregularities. Issues like the 6,000 GOP votes in Antrim co, MI which were magically converted to be Biden votes MUST be fully investigated. Was it a computer glitch? If so how many other counties used the faulty software? Was it human error? If so was it an accident, or was it repeated on any substantial scale?

 Without knowing the details and evidence, there is just no way Trump should concede. His fans will never forgive him for not fighting this. And one thing Trump does not do, is run from trouble.

That’s bs imo the run  from trouble commentl I’d say 230,000 dead Americans says otherwise amazes me that some still carry water for this charlitan there’s no evidence of any wrongdoing he’s just beeing the jerk and crybaby he is 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

2 hours ago, DoctorG said:

What are the haters going to do all day now? The daily bouts of Trump bashing will be pointless. I fear some <deleted> withdrawal symptoms for some on here.

I doubt it. Feels so good to think of Trump gone and Biden as president. 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

No 1 on iTunes is FDT. I wonder what it stands for. Not that into rap but this is quite a toe tapper. 

[RJRS1301]

32 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Not good enough. The poster above claimed the 6,000 vote "mistake" was a myth. Didn't happen. Called it an "Alledged" incident.

 

 Yet here you claim it's already been investigated. But to whose satisfaction? and were there full investigations of every other country countrywide that used the same software? Why did I not read full reports into the investigation on CNN, MSNBC, Reuters, AP? How are posters still able to dub the incident a fallacy?

 

 You can see the difference of opinion between two democrat supporters(6,000 vote switcheroo didn't happen at all vs happened but was fixed and all cool now), right? For the last time. Without exhaustive investigations into the fraud which Trump speaks of, Biden will never be legitimate. 

 

FTR seeing the reaction to these issues, I want to see a full audit for each and every vote. Regardless of the media rage and how long it takes.

Simple, many days after fact, no evidence presented to the courts in spite of having a team of investigators and lawyers working on this. 

Show them the evidence. Not a hard ask really.

 

[Paul Henry]

If recounts are imposed will they include states won by Trump or only won by Democrats.? If cheating is WIDE SPREAD then all results should be counted. Still this might be putting the cart before the horse as the GOP have shown no evidence of any cheating or fraud

[Fat is a type of crazy]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Not good enough. The poster above claimed the 6,000 vote "mistake" was a myth. Didn't happen. Called it an "Alledged" incident.

 

 Yet here you claim it's already been investigated. But to whose satisfaction? and were there full investigations of every other country countrywide that used the same software? Why did I not read full reports into the investigation on CNN, MSNBC, Reuters, AP? How are posters still able to dub the incident a fallacy?

 

 You can see the difference of opinion between two democrat supporters(6,000 vote switcheroo didn't happen at all vs happened but was fixed and all cool now), right? For the last time. Without exhaustive investigations into the fraud which Trump speaks of, Biden will never be legitimate. 

 

FTR seeing the reaction to these issues, I want to see a full audit for each and every vote. Regardless of the media rage and how long it takes.

In every election there are  issues that arise. In 2004 John Kerry could have won if he flipped Ohio. He lost it by just 2 per cent. He saw a few irregularities  but he had the sense to see they wouldn't amount to much, and that he could look into them in any case, and he conceded. For the good of the democracy.

In this case multiple major things would have to happen for Trump to win. There is no evidence at this stage for fraud. For the best interests of the country he could look at the bigger picture and concede.

If suddenly, some unlikely fraud or mistakes in multiple states is unearthed, conceding doesn't stop the possibility of the decision being reversed.

It's just about looking at reality and about doing the right thing. 

But let him do his thing. It just confirms the sort of man we all thought he was. 

Edited November 9, 2020 by Fat is a type of crazy

[Sujo]

43 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Not good enough. The poster above claimed the 6,000 vote "mistake" was a myth. Didn't happen. Called it an "Alledged" incident.

 

 Yet here you claim it's already been investigated. But to whose satisfaction? and were there full investigations of every other country countrywide that used the same software? Why did I not read full reports into the investigation on CNN, MSNBC, Reuters, AP? How are posters still able to dub the incident a fallacy?

 

 You can see the difference of opinion between two democrat supporters(6,000 vote switcheroo didn't happen at all vs happened but was fixed and all cool now), right? For the last time. Without exhaustive investigations into the fraud which Trump speaks of, Biden will never be legitimate. 

 

FTR seeing the reaction to these issues, I want to see a full audit for each and every vote. Regardless of the media rage and how long it takes.

So a quick search finds reuters did repirt on it, thats msm so there you go.

 

antrim county had a computer update issue, but official votes counted are not done by the computer, its done by tabulation, the tabulation is where its the correct count and by doing that they found the computer issue.  The computer count is not the official count.

 

And, just to keep you happy a manual count was done.

 

So move on from the nothing burger,

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact-check-biden-vote-spikes-mi-wi-idUSKBN27L2RL

[Opl]

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Stop it you're embarrassing yourself.

 

Why Trump can't concede: 

"I shouldn’t joke, I shouldn’t joke because you know what? Running against the worst candidate in the history of presidential politics puts pressure on me. Could you imagine if I lose?" "My whole life — what am I going to do? I’m going to say, I lost to the worst candidate in the history of politics! I’m not going to feel so good. Maybe I’ll have to leave the country, I don’t know." 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flashback-trump-in-october-could-you-imagine-if-i-lose

Edited November 9, 2020 by Opl

[Eric Loh]

Trump is making USA the laughing stock of the world with his unfounded accusation of election fraud. The world look up to USA being the beacon of perfect democracy. Now the world is chiding Trump's claims of fraud. These are the countries that long been advised by Washington on how to run elections and wondering out loud of those false assertions could truly and really came out from the President of USA. Who's the banana republic now. Trump has cast shame to USA.