Can I ASQ with my Thai gf ?

[HerbyJFlash]

My Thai girlfriend is currently on a tourist visa with me in the U.K.

 

If I was to apply for the new tourist visa and head to Thailand the same date she is due back, would we be able to quarantine together?

 

Many thanks

[2530Ubon]

1 hour ago, HerbyJFlash said:

My Thai girlfriend is currently on a tourist visa with me in the U.K.

 

If I was to apply for the new tourist visa and head to Thailand the same date she is due back, would we be able to quarantine together?

 

Many thanks

I think not, although i'd try searching for other ASQ hotels to look at policies;

Taken from the FAQ section of an ASQ hotel (anantara.com):

Q13. Can married couples share a hotel room?

Yes. A copy of the couple’s marriage certificate must be submitted when making the Alternative State Quarantine hotel reservation.

Q14. Can families share a hotel room?

Yes, subject to the maximum occupants allowed per selected room or suite type. A copy of the parents’ marriage certificate must be submitted when making the Alternative State Quarantine hotel reservation.

Q.15 Can friends or unmarried couples share a hotel room?

No. Only married couples and families can share a room.

 

 

[yeahbutif]

Also I think falang pays but Thai not...so if she did stay with you you may have to pay double.just a thought.

[2530Ubon]

5 hours ago, HerbyJFlash said:

My Thai girlfriend is currently on a tourist visa with me in the U.K.

HANG ON! You can't apply for the new visa, You're in the UK!

 

1) Lockdown in the UK means you can't fly out anytime soon, according to the goverment website;

From 5 November to 2 December 2020, travelling away from home, including internationally, is restricted from England

2) When the UK comes out of lockdown, the Thai government won't let you fly in! You must wait until the Thai government declares that the COVID situation is considered 'low risk' for the UK then you can apply for a tourist visa.

3) She can come back anytime, and will be put in government quarantine for free, or she can pay for ASQ accomodation.

 

If you marry your girlfriend in the UK, then that's a different story. If you are the spouse, child or parent of a Thai national, then you would be granted entry under strict conditions, and not with a tourist visa.

[ubonjoe]

10 hours ago, 2530Ubon said:

You can't apply for the new visa,

Wrong info. They are issuing the new single entry tourist visa now. You are confusing it with the STV.

See: https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/119247-requirements-for-certificate-of-entry-during-travel-restriction?page=5d6636cd15e39c3bd00072dd&menu=5f4b6eb3f6ae4b236972c562

It is the last one on the page.

[2530Ubon]

42 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Wrong info. They are issuing the new single entry tourist visa now. You are confusing it with the STV.

See: https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/119247-requirements-for-certificate-of-entry-during-travel-restriction?page=5d6636cd15e39c3bd00072dd&menu=5f4b6eb3f6ae4b236972c562

It is the last one on the page.

Yes, I was thinking about the STV visa...sorry! There're a lot of hoops to jump through for 60+30 days +500,000 baht in the bank for 6 months... perhaps better to wait? You still can't leave until lockdown in the UK ends, perhaps the situation will have improved by then.

 

For tourism purpose (single entry tourist visa only)

While Thailand still puts in place travel restriction, tourists who meet the requirements below can apply for single entry tourist visa at www.thaievisa.go.th and the Certificate of Entry to go to Thailand.  

Required documents : 

1. Your passport copy 
2. Travel booking confirmation
3. Proof of accommodation in Thailand e.g. hotel booking, invitation letter from family or friend in Thailand (All tourists are subject to 14-day quarantined at ASQ hotels at their own expenses.)
4. UK/Irish bank statements from the past 6 months showing a minimum of £12,800 maintained throughout the past 6 months.
5. Confirmation of legal residence in the UK or Ireland (if applicants are not nationals of these countries) e.g. long stay visa, residence permit, BRP card
6. Copy of health insurance policy which covers COVID-19 related medical expenses in Thailand no less than 100,000 USD for the whole period of your stay in Thailand
7. Declaration form

What you need to present at airlines check-in counter and upon arrival in Thailand:

1. The Certificate of Entry 
2. Declaration form 
3. Fit to Fly health certificate, issued within 72 hours before departure – this is a statement by a doctor that you are free from symptoms and fit to fly (must be separate from COVID test)
4. COVID-19 test result, with a laboratory output indicating that COVID -19 is not detected (COVID test must be by RT-PCR method), issued within 72 hours before departure
5. Copy of your health insurance policy which covers COVID-19 and no less than 100,000 USD
6. Copy of your confirmed booking at an ASQ hotel
7. T.8 form 

[poohy]

So if i am reading this right for retirement there is no financial requirement.. just insurance an quarantine

Will /Are they still honoring reentry permits if visa is valid??

 

For retirement (Non-Immigrant O)

While Thailand still puts in place travel restriction, foreign nationals who are holder of Non-Immigrant O can apply for the Certificate of Entry to go to Thailand.  

Required documents : 

1. Your passport copy
2. Copy of your Non-O visa
3. Copy of health insurance policy which covers COVID-19 related medical expenses in Thailand, both inpatient and outpatient, no less than 100,000 USD for the whole period of your stay in Thailand
4. Declaration form
5. A copy of flight confirmation
6. A copy of ASQ booking confirmation

If your visa has expired, you have to apply for a new visa. You must meet the requirements for non-O visa, with the additional requirement that applicants have health insurance for outpatient not less than 40,000 Baht and for inpatient not less than 400,000 Baht. Please check < http://longstay.tgia.org> for more information regarding the insurance requirement.

Please see our visa page for more detail. https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/84508-non-immigrant-visas

What you need to present at airlines check-in counter and upon arrival in Thailand:

1. The Certificate of Entry 
2. Declaration form 
3. Fit to Fly health certificate, issued within 72 hours before departure – this is a statement by a doctor that you are free from symptoms and fit to fly (must be separate from COVID test)
4. COVID-19 test result, with a laboratory output indicating that COVID -19 is not detected (COVID test must be by RT-PCR method), issued within 72 hours before departure
5. Copy of your health insurance policy which covers COVID-19 and no less than 100,000 USD
6. Copy of your confirmed booking at an ASQ hotel
7. T.8 form 

 

 

[ubonjoe]

24 minutes ago, poohy said:

So if i am reading this right for retirement there is no financial requirement.. just insurance an quarantine

Will /Are they still honoring reentry permits if visa is valid??

If you have a valid re-entry permit for a extension of stay based upon retirement you do not need a new visa.

[Salerno]

37 minutes ago, poohy said:

So if i am reading this right for retirement there is no financial requirement.. just insurance an quarantine

 

If you click through to the link to the visa page you get:

 

Non-Immigrant Type O (Retirement (pensioner aged 50 or above with a state pension who wants to stay in Thailand for no longer than 90 days) - single entry only)

• Financial evidence e.g. A copy of pension statement if the applicant is a pensioner, or a copy of 1-month bank statement showing your income from pension, or 3-month bank statement of at least £10,000
• Confirmation of legal residence in the UK or Ireland

[ubonjoe]

20 minutes ago, Salerno said:

If you click through to the link to the visa page you get:

That is only needed if you have to apply for a non-o visa. Not needed if you have a valid re-entry permit.

[Salerno]

6 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

That is only needed if you have to apply for a non-o visa. Not needed if you have a valid re-entry permit.

 

True, but there are people in the situation that will now need to apply for a new visa therefore, IMO, clarifying the requirements is not a bad thing.

[jimn]

15 hours ago, 2530Ubon said:

HANG ON! You can't apply for the new visa, You're in the UK!

 

1) Lockdown in the UK means you can't fly out anytime soon, according to the goverment website;

From 5 November to 2 December 2020, travelling away from home, including internationally, is restricted from England

2) When the UK comes out of lockdown, the Thai government won't let you fly in! You must wait until the Thai government declares that the COVID situation is considered 'low risk' for the UK then you can apply for a tourist visa.

3) She can come back anytime, and will be put in government quarantine for free, or she can pay for ASQ accomodation.

 

If you marry your girlfriend in the UK, then that's a different story. If you are the spouse, child or parent of a Thai national, then you would be granted entry under strict conditions, and not with a tourist visa.

You have already admited your error about the STV, now its time to admit your error about flying out of England since lockdown. Many people have flown to Thailand including myself since November 5th. There is no one stopping you, certainly not the airlines, no questions asked. Only issue is the validity of UK insurance policies.

[jimn]

To answer the original question, because the topic has been diverted. No you cannot share an ASQ room if not married. However I did exchange messages with a chap currently in quarantine with his long time girlfriend. He has been living with his lady 10 years in the UK and she has a long term visa. They had a letter from the embassy explaining this and they were allowed to share an ASQ room. First one I have heard about.

[mjakob007]

21 hours ago, HerbyJFlash said:

My Thai girlfriend is currently on a tourist visa with me in the U.K.

 

If I was to apply for the new tourist visa and head to Thailand the same date she is due back, would we be able to quarantine together?

 

Many thanks

Most ASQ’s don’t allow couples together unless married.

 

there are exceptions though.

 

PM me and I can share experiences.

[2530Ubon]

1 hour ago, jimn said:

You have already admited your error about the STV, now its time to admit your error about flying out of England since lockdown. Many people have flown to Thailand including myself since November 5th. There is no one stopping you, certainly not the airlines, no questions asked. Only issue is the validity of UK insurance policies.

No, I confused the STV visa with the new 60 day tourist visa which was only announced on Wednesday. That was my error, which I apologised for. If you had flown from the UK, you would currently be in quarantine... you didn't mention this which leads me to believe that you're not being entirely truthful.

 

I copied and pasted the no fly rule from the government website, so i wouldn't bother trying to argue your way out of that one;

 

'From 5 November to 2 December 2020, travelling away from home, including internationally, is restricted from England except in limited circumstances such as for work or for education.'

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/thailand

 

Furthermore, following your advice could land the OP in trouble, such as a huge fine:

 

'In England, foreign travel is currently only permitted for work, education or if someone has another valid reason. Travelling to take a holiday can be punished by a fine, with penalties starting at £200 and going up to £6,400.'

https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-53221896

 

[jimn]

2 hours ago, 2530Ubon said:

No, I confused the STV visa with the new 60 day tourist visa which was only announced on Wednesday. That was my error, which I apologised for. If you had flown from the UK, you would currently be in quarantine... you didn't mention this which leads me to believe that you're not being entirely truthful.

 

I copied and pasted the no fly rule from the government website, so i wouldn't bother trying to argue your way out of that one;

 

'From 5 November to 2 December 2020, travelling away from home, including internationally, is restricted from England except in limited circumstances such as for work or for education.'

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/thailand

 

Furthermore, following your advice could land the OP in trouble, such as a huge fine:

 

'In England, foreign travel is currently only permitted for work, education or if someone has another valid reason. Travelling to take a holiday can be punished by a fine, with penalties starting at £200 and going up to £6,400.'

https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-53221896

 

I dont need to argue my friend I am here now in my hotel room of course I am in Quarantine. Been here since 6th November. You seem pretty sure of yourself by quoting the regulations. I can assure you that there are many flights leaving the UK daily Qatar, Emirates, Lifthansa to name a few and these are carrying UK citizens to Thailand no matter what you say. 

[2530Ubon]

22 minutes ago, jimn said:

I dont need to argue my friend I am here now in my hotel room of course I am in Quarantine. Been here since 6th November. You seem pretty sure of yourself by quoting the regulations. I can assure you that there are many flights leaving the UK daily Qatar, Emirates, Lifthansa to name a few and these are carrying UK citizens to Thailand no matter what you say. 

Yes, there are many flights leaving, and also many flights cancelled.

If you have a valid reason such as work or education, then you may fly.

If you want to go on holiday, or follow your girlfriend here on a tourist visa, then that's not allowed, and I provided the government sources that confirm this. You asked me to admit that I was wrong... As I am not, I suggest you do the same.

[seoulbrooks]

2530Ubon,

Just let ubonjoe answer the immigration questions and stop mudding the waters.  

[DrJack54]

28 minutes ago, 2530Ubon said:

 

If you want to go on holiday, or follow your girlfriend here on a tourist visa, then that's not allowed,

They have added new requirements to tourist visa. You can obtain one and COE.

[jimn]

19 minutes ago, 2530Ubon said:

Yes, there are many flights leaving, and also many flights cancelled.

If you have a valid reason such as work or education, then you may fly.

If you want to go on holiday, or follow your girlfriend here on a tourist visa, then that's not allowed, and I provided the government sources that confirm this. You asked me to admit that I was wrong... As I am not, I suggest you do the same.

Stop being a key board warrior from wherever you are in Nakon Nowhere. Some flights from the smaller UK airports have been cancelled but flights from Heathrow unaffected. My flight to Qatar flight to QR008 at 15.05 to Doha on the 5th yes the 5th, was unaffected as was my connection the QR836. Go on to the facebook forums about people getting back to Thailand and you will find posts from many people like myself who have flown from the UK since the start of the lockdown. No one going to Thailand is going on holiday we have visas and a Certificate of Entry legally issued by the Thai Government. Please stop posting false facts about flying, people may actually believe you and cancel there trip because of your ignorance.

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/272003337395576/?ref=share

[jimn]

12 minutes ago, seoulbrooks said:

2530Ubon,

Just let ubonjoe answer the immigration questions and stop mudding the waters.  

Yes he is trying to imitate but he has not got a clue

[2530Ubon]

41 minutes ago, jimn said:

Stop being a key board warrior from wherever you are in Nakon Nowhere.

I'm in Ubon, as my user name suggests. No keyboard warrior, I was responding to a post and apologised when I was wrong. I was unaware of the new visa released a few days ago.

 

41 minutes ago, jimn said:

Please stop posting false facts about flying, people may actually believe you and cancel there trip because of your ignorance.

Everything I have written is factually correct and I have provided references. Here are some more. These are not false statements, and clicking the provided links will prove it. YOU on the other hand, have provided a facebook group where people talk nonsense.

 

Whilst you may have travelled here for a perfectly legit reason, the OP has stated he wants to come here because his GF wants to go home. Whilst this is fine, it's not currently allowed, and could get him in trouble whilst the UK is locked.

 

Heathrow https://www.heathrow.com/

Information for passengers due to travel before 2 December

The UK Government has announced a second national lockdown for England until 2 December 2020. During this time, you must not travel overseas or within the UK, unless for work, education or other legally permitted reasons.

 

British government:https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/thailand

From 5 November to 2 December 2020, travelling away from home, including internationally, is restricted from England except in limited circumstances such as for work or for education.

 

The Mirror (newspaper); https://www.mirror.co.uk/travel/news/people-england-face-fines-200-22967487

People in England face fines from £200 for going on holiday in lockdown

England's second lockdown includes a ban on international travel - and the government has warned there will be fines for those who breach the rules. As a result of lockdown, TUI announced that it would be cancelling all flights and holidays from England and Wales until the 2nd December, while Jet2holidays has also announced cancelled breaks including the Canary Islands.

Meanwhile, easyJet revealed it was drastically reducing its schedule, while British Airways also warned passengers' flights could be affected.

 

45 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

They have added new requirements to tourist visa. You can obtain one and COE.

 

41 minutes ago, jimn said:

 No one going to Thailand is going on holiday we have visas and a Certificate of Entry legally issued by the Thai Government.

Unfortunately the OP is not in the same situation. Yes, people can apply for COE, and people can apply for visas. However, only some of those people are eligible to fly when the UK is locked down. I.E, people who normally live here, study, work or have retired here.

Read the OP's original post, and understand that the UK is in lockdown. He even specifies that he wants a tourist visa. Tourist visas are for... wait for it... holidays!

He has a Thai girlfriend (not a wife) who is in the UK and she wants to return to Thailand. He has decided he wants to come along. This is classified as a holiday. Once the lockdown has been lifted, then he's good to go! However, seeing as there's the chance he COULD be turned away and fined, why risk it as it's such a bother to get everything required to qualify for the visa, and there's a great deal of expenses to be paid upfront. I wouldn't risk it which is why i mentioned this.

37 minutes ago, jimn said:

Yes he is trying to imitate but he has not got a clue

No. I am, and always have been, my own man. For better or worse!

 

Now, you actually said this earlier: "You're pretty confident quoting the regulations". Therefore you understand that these ARE the regulations and rules. NOT LIES.

[jimn]

15 minutes ago, 2530Ubon said:

Everything I have written is factually correct and I have provided references. Here are some more. These are not false statements, and clicking the provided links will prove it. YOU on the other hand, have provided a facebook group where people talk nonsense.

 

Whilst you may have travelled here for a perfectly legit reason, the OP has stated he wants to come here because his GF wants to go home. Whilst this is fine, it's not currently allowed, and could get him in trouble whilst the UK is locked.

Unfortunately the OP is not in the same situation. Yes, people can apply for COE, and people can apply for visas. However, only some of those people are eligible to fly when the UK is locked down. I.E, people who normally live here, study, work or have retired here.

Read the OP's original post, and understand that the UK is in lockdown. He even specifies that he wants a tourist visa. Tourist visas are for... wait for it... holidays!

He has a Thai girlfriend (not a wife) who is in the UK and she wants to return to Thailand.

Oh you unfortunately have completely misunderstood the OPs question. He was asking a simple question, that is if unmarried couples can share an ASQ room. The simple answer is no. You chose to hijack the thread and turn it into a thread about the England lockdown and its implications. I hear what you are saying and I am pointing out to you that there are 100's of people flying everyday back to Thailand from the UK.

 

I will make one more point about the Facebook group I quoted the link for. Before you open your mouth and deride it, I must inform you that it is a real time group to provide help to people who are confused about the process to get back to Thailand and how to apply for a visa and a COE. I personally have helped many people. In fact I have received a personal email from inside the RTE London for the help I have provided stopping many calls and emails into the embassy. You may well be right in theory in quoting the sources you gave, however you are way way off the mark in practice. May I ask how many people you have helped in the past few months to get back to their loved ones, none I bet, I have helped 100's I suggest you crawl back into your humble abode and stay there, its not welcome thank you 

 

 

[2530Ubon]

@jimn I applaud you for helping people come back, that's great news, and a worthwhile endevour.

 

I was actually the first responder to the OP and correctly answered his question - No, he can't quarantine with his GF. I mentioned UK lockdown as it's a factor to consider. If your going to lay down a lot of cash to sort flights, covid tests etc, then it's a good idea to wait 2 or three weeks until normal flight schedules are resumed... especially when he could be fined for breaching lockdown, or worse, denied the flight. It may be possible for some, but all it takes is one person to be on a bad day at the airport to turn him down. I don't see what your problem is.

[jimn]

9 minutes ago, 2530Ubon said:

@jimn I applaud you for helping people come back, that's great news, and a worthwhile endevour.

 

I was actually the first responder to the OP and correctly answered his question - No, he can't quarantine with his GF. I mentioned UK lockdown as it's a factor to consider. If your going to lay down a lot of cash to sort flights, covid tests etc, then it's a good idea to wait 2 or three weeks until normal flight schedules are resumed... especially when he could be fined for breaching lockdown, or worse, denied the flight. It may be possible for some, but all it takes is one person to be on a bad day at the airport to turn him down. I don't see what your problem is.

Ok I concede you answered the question but then got confused about the Tourist Visa being available. I take your point about the England lockdown rules, I am just pointing out to you that 100s of people are ignoring them and flying to Thailand. Everyone I have exchanged messages with in the Facebook group are happy they are not breaking regulations They are going for a minimum 60 days, they are going into quarantine, they have a legal visa and a COE from the Thai embassy. They are clearly not going on holiday which the ban refers too and are in the main going home to their families. Lets end this now, you think you are right and I know I cannot convince you otherwise. By the way no long haul flights have been cancelled from Heathrow because of the lockdown. 

[Aweful]

The term "UK lockdown" is misleading.

The UK consists of four countries each with different rules.

Glasgow (in Scotland) currently has four Emirates flights per week to Bangkok.

You can see the history of a route by entering the flight number into a site such as "Flightradar24".

What you can't see is the number of passengers on a flight.

[2530Ubon]

7 minutes ago, jimn said:

. Everyone I have exchanged messages with in the Facebook group are happy they are not breaking regulations They are going for a minimum 60 days, they are going into quarantine, they have a legal visa and a COE from the

We don't know how long he's going... He's following his GF and applying for a tourist visa. If he was married and going to live with his wife, or going to work, or going on a business trip, or studying, then he'd be fine to leave tomorrow.

 

Just chill for 2 or 3 weeks and go when there's absolutely NO risk of being turned away at the airport because, let's face it, he has no reason to go to Thailand other than his GF is going there. That's not a valid reason according to the lockdown regulations.

 

It's not about being right - I'm happy to admit i was wrong about which visa he was applying for, I was trying to help and offer sound advice... Which i failed to do when i said he couldn't go because he couldn't apply.

 

Again, kudos for helping so many people get back, that's what I hope most are here to do too.

 

And thanks to chipbutty for making me laugh so much!!!

[KhaoYai]

10 hours ago, 2530Ubon said:

'In England, foreign travel is currently only permitted for work, education or if someone has another valid reason. Travelling to take a holiday can be punished by a fine, with penalties starting at £200 and going up to £6,400.'

If you are visiting your wife, I think that will be accepted as essential travel, not a holiday. I may be going over in March, if there's any from of lockdown then, having gone through all the hurdles to obtain COE and paid for my ASQ, they won't stop me from travelling.

[KhaoYai]

On 11/14/2020 at 1:32 PM, yeahbutif said:

Also I think falang pays but Thai not...so if she did stay with you you may have to pay double.just a thought.

Thai's are only free at State Quarantine hotels. If they stay in ASQ, they pay. Whether there are any special rates for couples, I know not but logically there would be some extras to pay for - Covid tests being one of them.

[ChipButty]

8 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

Thai's are only free at State Quarantine hotels. If they stay in ASQ, they pay. Whether there are any special rates for couples, I know not but logically there would be some extras to pay for - Covid tests being one of them.

My Thai friend is paying she is one week into being locked up in ASQ