How are the bars, restaurants, agogos, massage shops, gentleman clubs and any business doing during covid?

[scubascuba3]

Gentlemen clubs seem to be doing well currently, they aren't my thing but are popular. According to a YouTube video i watched a couple days ago it's worth checking out Heaven, Cameltoe and Kinnaree, all on googlemaps

[scubascuba3]

Massage shops Klang end of Buakhao and Klang have increased prices from 100 to 150 baht for foot\thai massage.

 

Various Buakhao covid outbreaks currently, i reckon a lockdown is coming

[The Hammer2021]

On 12/13/2021 at 5:15 PM, scubascuba3 said:

Gentlemen clubs seem to be doing well currently, they aren't my thing but are popular. According to a YouTube video i watched a couple days ago it's worth checking out Heaven, Cameltoe and Kinnaree, all on googlemaps

Three Pattaya  G clubs, two of which you mention closed for covid recently.  Management and staff hospitalalised. Because of their closed, poorly ventilated design it was inevitable. Two new ones have opened but I think its only a matter of time before anti vax  anti mask super spreaders close them..

[The Hammer2021]

12 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Massage shops Klang end of Buakhao and Klang have increased prices from 100 to 150 baht for foot\thai massage.

 

Various Buakhao covid outbreaks currently, i reckon a lockdown is coming

The rumour is Treetown is rife with covid. It was rammed cheek to jowl when I was there last week

[The Hammer2021]

On 10/15/2021 at 8:46 PM, MrJ2U said:

Gentleman clubs thrived.

 

 

They all closed without exception  during the lockdown basically from May 2021 to December..now they are closing again due to illness but two new ones have opened.

[The Hammer2021]

On 9/19/2021 at 12:21 PM, scubascuba3 said:

Sounds like a conspiracy theory. I reckon Walking St agogos start opening up like they did a few months ago.  Mister Egg in one of his recent videos said the licencing problem was exaggerated and only applies to a couple of places. Time will tell but conspiracy theories about the businesses on the sea side being illegal have been around for years

The claustrophobic, investigated nature  of GO Gos  means they can never open again really. The covid disease will become rife  among the staff and dancers. It's already spreading round the bars. Covid is not going away. Go Go bars are not coming back

[scubascuba3]

13 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

The claustrophobic, investigated nature  of GO Gos  means they can never open again really. The covid disease will become rife  among the staff and dancers. It's already spreading round the bars. Covid is not going away. Go Go bars are not coming back

I think agogos will be back ASAP, covid will be treated like the common cold eventually as it gets milder. Let's see who is right.

 

I think a restaurant\bar closure is coming very soon as covid is spreading quickly, maybe 1 weeks time

[HashBrownHarry]

28 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

The rumour is Treetown is rife with covid. It was rammed cheek to jowl when I was there last week

Bound to be.

 

But really if you get no symptoms it's no big deal really, is it?

 

An incovienience for intl travel tho.

[treetops]

7 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

I think a restaurant\bar closure is coming very soon as covid is spreading quickly, maybe 1 weeks time

Bangkok and Khon Khaen both announced closures today and I think more will follow.

[The Hammer2021]

5 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said:

Bound to be.

 

But really if you get no symptoms it's no big deal really, is it?

 

An incovienience for intl travel tho.

Yes its a big deal with dreadful,  life changing  symptoms for many people. Ask any bar girl, service  staff or waitress if she wants Covid-19.  It's only entitled privileged  white men who are anti mask, anti vax covid deniers here in Pattaya.  Even 'mild' symptons as a mass event cause havoc.

[TaaSaparot]

10 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

The rumour is Treetown is rife with covid. It was rammed cheek to jowl when I was there last week

The Triangle Bar has had to close, with 6 staff members isolating in hospital.

[TaaSaparot]

10 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

I think a restaurant\bar closure is coming very soon as covid is spreading quickly, maybe 1 weeks time

Rumour is a meeting tomorrow, and a closure will start on Jan 1st.

[scubascuba3]

18 minutes ago, TaaSaparot said:

The Triangle Bar has had to close, with 6 staff members isolating in hospital.

Outbreak at Links and Travellers and probably elsewhere

[jacko45k]

3 hours ago, TaaSaparot said:

The Triangle Bar has had to close, with 6 staff members isolating in hospital.

Good feedback.... one of the first places to open when alcohol was permitted in 'restaurants'.... place hasn't even got a kitchen. It really shines a light on the futility of this SHA approval certificate. 

[Leaver]

14 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

i reckon a lockdown is coming

 

Inevitable.  

 

If they let it rage though the city, uncontrolled, they haven't got the hospital beds and ICU beds for even the small percentage that still get very sick from the disease, despite being vaccinated.

 

With Christmas and NYE festivities, the numbers will be huge 2 to 3 weeks from now. 

   

Edited December 31, 2021 by Leaver

[James105]

16 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Yes its a big deal with dreadful,  life changing  symptoms for many people. Ask any bar girl, service  staff or waitress if she wants Covid-19.  It's only entitled privileged  white men who are anti mask, anti vax covid deniers here in Pattaya.  Even 'mild' symptons as a mass event cause havoc.

Ask any bar girl, service staff or waitress if she wants to be out of work and unable to pay her rent or buy food due to the fears of the biggest bedwetters in society.   It's only the overweight, old white men who generally speaking are financially unaffected by lockdowns who want lockdowns again.   Mild symptoms do not cause havoc, its the over reaction to them that causes the most harm.  

[The Hammer2021]

13 minutes ago, James105 said:

Ask any bar girl, service staff or waitress if she wants to be out of work and unable to pay her rent or buy food due to the fears of the biggest bedwetters in society.   It's only the overweight, old white men who generally speaking are financially unaffected by lockdowns who want lockdowns again.   Mild symptoms do not cause havoc, its the over reaction to them that causes the most harm.  

It's a difficult  choice for them but health is the priority. Nobody wants to work and get sick. Service  staff are in more danger of covid  than medical staff. The recent reopening, then infection  then reclosing of bars has been a hard lesson. It's very sad. Go Go bars etc are no longer  safe working environments in the current  situation.  No tightly packed, badly ventilated small spaces such as bar and G clubs can stay open for any length of time before a covid break out, illness, usually very distressing, then closure. That is the pattern until covid is under control. The recent opening of clubs around Pattaya  and Jomtien  was a medical experiment.

[The Hammer2021]

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Good feedback.... one of the first places to open when alcohol was permitted in 'restaurants'.... place hasn't even got a kitchen. It really shines a light on the futility of this SHA approval certificate. 

Yes it does have a kitchen and an extensive menu.

[The Hammer2021]

25 minutes ago, James105 said:

Ask any bar girl, service staff or waitress if she wants to be out of work and unable to pay her rent or buy food due to the fears of the biggest bedwetters in society.   It's only the overweight, old white men who generally speaking are financially unaffected by lockdowns who want lockdowns again.   Mild symptoms do not cause havoc, its the over reaction to them that causes the most harm.  

Mild symptons are a Facebook and YouTube myth promoted irresponsibly. ICUs do not get filled with people with mild symptoms.

[The Hammer2021]

17 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

I think agogos will be back ASAP, covid will be treated like the common cold eventually as it gets milder. Let's see who is right.

 

I think a restaurant\bar closure is coming very soon as covid is spreading quickly, maybe 1 weeks time

So you think Go Go bars will open soon but restaurants and bars close? There is no logic to that.

[scubascuba3]

10 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

So you think Go Go bars will open soon but restaurants and bars close? There is no logic to that.

ASAP isn't soon it's ASAP

[James105]

19 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

It's a difficult  choice for them but health is the priority. Nobody wants to work and get sick. Service  staff are in more danger of covid  than medical staff. The recent reopening, then infection  then reclosing of bars has been a hard lesson. It's very sad. Go Go bars etc are no longer  safe working environments in the current  situation.  No tightly packed, badly ventilated small spaces such as bar and G clubs can stay open for any length of time before a covid break out, illness, usually very distressing, then closure. That is the pattern until covid is under control. The recent opening of clubs around Pattaya  and Jomtien  was a medical experiment.

Anyone who is not obese or over 60 has nothing to fear from this milder strain of Covid, especially not if they have received the vaccines.   What they do have to fear is poverty.  You say it is a difficult choice for them but where is their choice in this?  You have a choice not to frequent the bar etc if you are scared, but where is their choice if it is closed down?  

[The Hammer2021]

2 hours ago, James105 said:

Anyone who is not obese or over 60 has nothing to fear from this milder strain of Covid, especially not if they have received the vaccines.   What they do have to fear is poverty.  You say it is a difficult choice for them but where is their choice in this?  You have a choice not to frequent the bar etc if you are scared, but where is their choice if it is closed down?  

The bars that closed down recently were riddled with covid mainly sick staff. They were not closed down as part of a general  lockdown.  My take is that as more and more staff get sick with covid there will be insufficient  staff willing to take the risk. Your assertions  that covid is not serious and only dangerous to old people/obese is trite, silly  and innacurate and based on views once commonly held but no longer as it appears the more we learn about covid a lot of the original  assumptions  about covid were not entirely  true.

You omit other pre conditions from cancer to diabetes and many more. But anyway plenty of young fit people are having dreadful, painful frightening  experiences with Covid and its not up to FB and You tube experts to dismiss  their experience casually.  The fact that some people get mild symptons is irrelevant I'm afraid. Gun shot wounds and car crashes don't always kill people but we  seek to avoid them. I do not want bars to shut but they will and if the government  shuts them down I think people will  understand  why this time round. I think your real point is that the government  should do more to ameliorate  the hardship caused by bar closures

Edited December 31, 2021 by The Hammer2021

[Leaver]

On 12/31/2021 at 11:27 AM, James105 said:

Anyone who is not obese or over 60 has nothing to fear from this milder strain of Covid, especially not if they have received the vaccines.  

 

Would something like 95% of expat retirees here be over 60 years of age?   Do you have any word of encouragement for them?   ????   

[smedly]

On 12/31/2021 at 11:04 AM, The Hammer2021 said:

Mild symptons are a Facebook and YouTube myth promoted irresponsibly. ICUs do not get filled with people with mild symptoms.

number of omicron cases detected daily in the UK now almost 200k, number of those in hospital infected with omicro 800ish (unclear if omicron is why they are there), deaths of people with omicron 50ish (unclear if omicron caused death or they just had it)

 

what is very clear is that infection detection rates are rising fast in the UK other key data rates are not, very complex issues at play and will take a couple of weeks to nail it down and reach conclusions about omicron but so far it is looking good

 

SA being several weeks ahead is a good place to look at data

 

people should not drop their guard just yet and maintain caution but what I have seen in Pattaya these last 10 days is quite disturbing - packed venues - no rules being followed - closures due to infections, they only have themselves to blame if locked down again, and for those that came here for a 3-4 week holiday good luck with your PCR test before you are allowed to leave

[smedly]

On 12/31/2021 at 1:32 PM, The Hammer2021 said:

The bars that closed down recently were riddled with covid mainly sick staff.

define sick, there is a bad cold circulating in Pattaya right now

[jacko45k]

4 hours ago, smedly said:

define sick, there is a bad cold circulating in Pattaya right now

I have read of 2 bars (maybe 3) that have closed due to Covid positives.  I suspect there is a fear of getting tested, but it is an SHA Approval obligation, 

 

[SidJames]

On 12/31/2021 at 11:00 AM, The Hammer2021 said:

Yes it does have a kitchen and an extensive menu.

It was also SHA+ Approved which meant that all it's staff are vaxxed.

 

[aussiexpat]

And now the Governor has mandated a negative ATK result required within 72 hours of having a meal...

 

...World has gone mad, might as well cancel my trip cause I won't be doing a test every 3 days just to go out to eat

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2022/01/02/chonburi-governor-releases-late-night-updated-orders-around-covid-19-and-food-and-beverage-establishments/

Edited January 2, 2022 by aussiexpat

[Jambo55]

On 12/31/2021 at 10:36 AM, James105 said:

Ask any bar girl, service staff or waitress if she wants to be out of work and unable to pay her rent or buy food due to the fears of the biggest bedwetters in society.   It's only the overweight, old white men who generally speaking are financially unaffected by lockdowns who want lockdowns again.   Mild symptoms do not cause havoc, its the over reaction to them that causes the most harm.  

You and hammer should ‘get a room’