Chomper Higgot Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 10 hours ago, Loiner said: Or only edjumacated and brainwashed. How did it work for you? It worked extremely well thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi from France Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) Quote The public are deeply unhappy with the government’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic and the Brexit negotiations, a damning new poll suggests. Quote The poll predicts that if a general election were held tomorrow neither the Conservatives nor Labour would win an outright majority. Disturbingly for Boris Johnson, the survey says the Conservatives would lose 81 seats, wiping out the 80-seat majority they won in December 2019. Quote It gives the first detailed insight into the public’s perception of Johnson’s handling of the Brexit talks and the pandemic, amid fears that Britain is heading into a third national lockdown. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/02/poll-predicts-a-uk-general-election-now-would-wipe-out-tory-majorit and Results in Scotland would see the Scottish National party achieve a near complete sweep, winning 57 of the 59 Scottish seats. . Edited January 3, 2021 by Hi from France 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Hi from France said: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/02/poll-predicts-a-uk-general-election-now-would-wipe-out-tory-majorit and Results in Scotland would see the Scottish National party achieve a near complete sweep, winning 57 of the 59 Scottish seats. . Start a new thread, that has nothing to do with this topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 16 hours ago, vinny41 said: Charles-Henri Gallois French politician in the Popular Republican Union party There is also : Nicolas Dupont - Aignan / President of Debout la France Jean-Frederic Poisson / President of the Christian Democratic Party Valerie Precresse / President of the Regional Council of IIe-de-France and many others. They all have their own opinions. If it is relevant, is of course relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi from France Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: Start a new thread, that has nothing to do with this topic as mentioned "Johnson’s handling of the Brexit talks" = thread topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi from France Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, luckyluke said: Valérie Pécresse / President of the Regional Council of Ile-de-France (spelling corrected) you say Valérie Pécresse is a Frexiter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just now, Hi from France said: (spelling corrected) you say Valérie Pécresse is a Frexiter? No, I don't even know what the program is of all these people. I just mention that next to Mr. Gallois, there are different other politicians with their own opinions about multiple subjects, yes or no Frexit included. All these people have their followers, who consider without a doubt, the opinion of their leader as very important, however maybe not that much by non-followers. Hence my point that a statement, from a politician, is a relative something, and must be placed in the correct context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hi from France said: as mentioned "Johnson’s handling of the Brexit talks" = thread topic Brexit is sooooooooo "last year" , move on, its 2021 now , we've left the E.U. Notice how the anti Brexit Guardian put the Brexit talks in with the Governments handling of the virus , like they were one thing, one subject . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IvorBiggun2 Posted January 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: Brexit is sooooooooo "last year" And so is 'Remainers'. They should rename themselves the 'Rejoiners'. Edited January 3, 2021 by IvorBiggun2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said: Brexit is sooooooooo "last year" , move on, its 2021 now , we've left the E.U. Notice how the anti Brexit Guardian put the Brexit talks in with the Governments handling of the virus , like they were one thing, one subject . Well it may happen one day, that the opposition, and their media, agree with the ideas and handlings of the government in place. Usually everything what " the others" do, and think, is immediately, without question, considered as wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, luckyluke said: Well it may happen one day, that the opposition, and their media, agree with the ideas and handlings of the government in place. Usually everything what " the others" do, and think, is immediately, without question, considered as wrong. Just pointing out that its rather deceptive to put two different subjects into one . Like the people who think the Gov handled to pandemic badly are put in the same group as people who think the Brexit talks didnt go good . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said: And so is 'Remainers'. They should rename themselves the 'Rejoiners'. Count me in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 26 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: Just pointing out that its rather deceptive to put two different subjects into one . Like the people who think the Gov handled to pandemic badly are put in the same group as people who think the Brexit talks didnt go good . I am sure many people just believe the Brexit talks did go good, because Mr. Johnson claimed it was a victory. Now I don't pretend it isn't, I am not clever enough to understand a 2000 pages deal. And my only concern is, somehow egoist I admit, what concrete influence this deal will have on the daily life, of the gross, of the man in the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Hi from France said: Did you actually understand that the EMA removes bureaucracy but providing a single drug approval system for the single market? Did you actually understand what I said ? If the EMA issues an approval for the single market, it still has to get approval from the BfArm in Germany, ANSM in France, MHRA in UK etc etc. Edited January 3, 2021 by Chelseafan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 47 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Count me in. Are you Scottish, Welsh, N.Irish or English, just curious...? ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Chelseafan said: Did you actually understand what I said ? If the EMA issues an approval for the single market, it still has to get approval from the BfArm in Germany, ANSM in France, MHRA in UK etc etc. The local EMA's are simply taking the main EMA's assertion. All in all the process is now a lot faster than it used to be with individual assessments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: It worked extremely well thank you. In fact so good that you spend your life moaning and sniping on TVF? Must have been a great edumacation. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 6 hours ago, CorpusChristie said: Brexit is sooooooooo "last year" , move on, its 2021 now , we've left the E.U. Notice how the anti Brexit Guardian put the Brexit talks in with the Governments handling of the virus , like they were one thing, one subject . Anything anti-Brexit or anti-Boris or anti-Govt is all one and the same for the Grauniad. As with Remainers and lefty liberals here, so long as they can spin it anti-Tory it will do for them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 3 hours ago, stevenl said: The local EMA's are simply taking the main EMA's assertion. All in all the process is now a lot faster than it used to be with individual assessments. That's my point. What is the point of the local agencies then ? Might as well disband them if all they are doing is following the advise of the central EMA. Two branches doing the same job. Bureaucracy at its finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvorBiggun2 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Count me in. You and who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi from France Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 7 hours ago, CorpusChristie said: Brexit is sooooooooo "last year" , move on, its 2021 now , we've left the E.U. not at all, you believed in the "get brexit done" didn't you? But guess what? You are still there talking about it, and you'll be still there for years Quote Nor will Brexit deliver its most basic, if disingenuous, promise: to have resolved the great European question once and for all. On the contrary, negotiations with Brussels will be a permanent fixture, not least because Johnson’s trade deal does not cover all of Britain’s trade – excluding, among other things, the 80% of Britain’s economy made up of services. “Europe” will remain a live issue, as it has for centuries, https://bit.ly/3rO3uro Welcome in Brexeternity @CorpusChristie Quote The notion that Brexit will never in fact be over; that Britain will be stuck half-in and half-out of the European Union forever, condemned to permanent and mind-numbingly awful negotiations until kingdom come "Get brexit done" hu? You did not get brexit done, you did the opposite, we (and you probably) are going to keep on talking about brexit all the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hi from France Posted January 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2021 7 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said: And so is 'Remainers'. They should rename themselves the 'Rejoiners'. Indeed - This has been right since last year if not before. Here you'll find an up-to-date discussion about rejoining : https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/01/britain-rejoin-eu-leaving-brexit 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, Hi from France said: not at all, you believed in the "get brexit done" didn't you? But guess what? You are still there talking about it, and you'll be still there for years https://bit.ly/3rO3uro Welcome in Brexeternity @CorpusChristie "Get brexit done" hu? You did not get brexit done, you did the opposite, we (and you probably) are going to keep on talking about brexit all the time. Brexit was about the UK leaving the E.U Brexit wasnt about the UK pulling the anchor up, putting the sails up and sailing off into the Atlantic ocean and parking ourselves in some far off location 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Chelseafan said: That's my point. What is the point of the local agencies then ? Might as well disband them if all they are doing is following the advise of the central EMA. Two branches doing the same job. Bureaucracy at its finest. The local agencies deal with non-prescription drugs and drugs authorised before the creation of the EMA. It's more efficient to have a look at the EMA website. https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/about-us/what-we-do/authorisation-medicines 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvorBiggun2 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Hi from France said: You are still there talking about it, and you'll be still there for years And the Remainers and Rejoiners will still be there for years. Do you really think the EU will allow the UK/Scotland to rejoin? Not a cat in hells chance. Dream on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hi from France Posted January 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said: And the Remainers and Rejoiners will still be there for years. Do you really think the EU will allow the UK/Scotland to rejoin? Not a cat in hells chance. Dream on. Scotland independence + EU membership is complicated to say the least. But so was the United Kingdom leaving the European Union. Probably OK for northern Ireland (but like 10 years away). Now: Quote The case for a second Scottish independence referendum is looking increasingly hard to resist, less than seven years after that issue was also supposedly settled for a generation. (If an independent Scotland rejoins the EU, alongside a Northern Ireland that is already half-in, then the question will press on England and Wales all the harder.) Quote as the request that the EU27 “keep the light on” for our eventual return might seem hopelessly romantic. But even apparently lost causes can prevail in the end. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/01/britain-rejoin-eu-leaving-brexit Edited January 3, 2021 by Hi from France 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said: And the Remainers and Rejoiners will still be there for years. Do you really think the EU will allow the UK/Scotland to rejoin? Not a cat in hells chance. Dream on. As long as requirements are met, of course they can (re)join. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi from France Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) Conséquences of a crappy deal .. Edited January 3, 2021 by Hi from France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 On 12/28/2020 at 5:46 PM, vinny41 said: No need to prove you wrong the majority of people know that UK membership of the EU ceased on 31st January 2020 if you and Ian Blackford think different thats fine I again refer back to the answer I gave previously You may want to but I'll leave yo to play with yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adammike Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 hour ago, IvorBiggun2 said: And the Remainers and Rejoiners will still be there for years. Do you really think the EU will allow the UK/Scotland to rejoin? Not a cat in hells chance. Dream on. They will,just not with the opt outs they had, and the Biggie is they would have to ditch the pound and take the Euro!!!!!!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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