UK and EU reach Brexit trade deal

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, billd766 said:

I find it quite amusing when people reply to a poster by saying "what you really mean is........... 

 

My reply is simply I mean what I wrote. Please don't twist my words to suit your agenda because that would be a lie. 

If you have any free time available have a look at what ‘subtext’ means.

[kingdong]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The same could be said d of a few hundred million people born and raised in the British Empire.

Too true chomper,but  the former citizens of the british empire wanted independence in a lot of cases resorting to terrorism to achieve their goal now paradoxically despite billions of pounds in aid there are millions of former empire citizens desperate and in a lot of cases en route to live in  the uk,however i can,t see your anomonoly being true of the uk leaving the eu think you,ll find the reverse will be true,they,ll be swarms of europhile petites clamouring to enter britain to join the 2 million already here.

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Too true chomper,but  the former citizens of the british empire wanted independence in a lot of cases resorting to terrorism to achieve their goal now paradoxically despite billions of pounds in aid there are millions of former empire citizens desperate and in a lot of cases en route to live in  the uk,however i can,t see your anomonoly being true of the uk leaving the eu think you,ll find the reverse will be true,they,ll be swarms of europhile petites clamouring to enter britain to join the 2 million already here.

Happy New Year Kingdong.

 

2021 is the year you find out what you actually voted for.

 

Good luck with that.

 

 

[kingdong]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Happy New Year Kingdong.

 

2021 is the year you find out what you actually voted for.

 

Good luck with that.

 

 

And a happy new year to you chomper,my old china,and the best of british to you,and thanks for your wishes of " good luck" but think you,ll find brexiteers are authors and creaters not wishers of good luck.

Edited December 31, 2020 by kingdong

[kingdong]

41 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

If you have any free time available have a look at what ‘subtext’ means.

Putting words in peoples mouthes?

[Hi from France]

1 hour ago, kingdong said:

And a happy new year to you

And welcome into a Brexiternity of difficulties with the EU, with Ireland, and with Scotland. 

[473geo]

1 minute ago, Hi from France said:

And welcome into a Brexiternity of difficulties with the EU, with Ireland, and with Scotland. 

How very sad to pour your bitterness so freely at this time of year, I wish you the very best of health for 2021 although I fear the mental scars regarding Brexit may require my good wishes into 2022 also, but you have them ???? from someone who holds no fear for the future

[kingdong]

1 hour ago, Hi from France said:

And welcome into a Brexiternity of difficulties with the EU, with Ireland, and with Scotland. 

You remainers have been wrong so far,we,ll survive,i,d be more worried about the eu imploding,going down the bookies tomorrow see what odds i can get.

[Hi from France]

2 hours ago, 473geo said:

How very sad to pour your bitterness so freely at this time of year, I wish you the very best of health for 2021 although I fear the mental scars regarding Brexit 

Best wishes to you too!

 

Don't worry about any mental scars on my side I'm in favor of Brexit. You have read my posts, I think the UK had a disastrous negotiation and I was wrong to choose theoretical over practical sovereignty (and as a consequence, opt for a no-deal in services, set NI on the path to leave the Union a bit faster, sow the seed of separation in Scotland.. ). 

 

Now the fact that the French project for a more powerful Europe can now prosper is a huge good news. And ironically Britain is going down the very same route. 

 

The fact national-populism took over Britain and is my real preoccupation, as well as the pandemic. 

 

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Edited December 31, 2020 by Hi from France

[bannork]

On 12/28/2020 at 11:23 PM, nauseus said:

 

11. Dandruff will also lose roaming rights.

Staying in the EU we were head and shoulders above other third countries.

[bannork]

Changes to the UK- EU relationship 

[luckyluke]

6 hours ago, kingdong said:

You remainers have been wrong so far,we,ll survive,i,d be more worried about the eu imploding,going down the bookies tomorrow see what odds i can get.

 

I don't know if you are joking or not, but would be interesting to know what the odds are.

 

[billd766]

26 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

 

I don't know if you are joking or not, but would be interesting to know what the odds are.

 

I just did a search on Google and came up with these 2 and there are more as well. I have never really thought about it until you mentioned it.

 

Have a great New Year and keep posting.

 

https://news.ladbrokes.com/politics/british-politics/brexit-r-eu-nion-uk-16-1-to-rejoin-the-eu-before-the-end-of-2025/

 

Nick Murphy | 08.12.2020
The odds of the UK ditching Brexit and rejoining the European Union in the next few years have been drastically cut by our traders.

Following recent support from punters, we now make it a 16/1 shot (from 33s) that the UK Re-EU-nites with our neighbours on the continent by the end of 2025.

 

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/next-country-to-leave-eu

 

 

 

[vogie]

1 hour ago, luckyluke said:

 

I don't know if you are joking or not, but would be interesting to know what the odds are.

 

These are the odds of the next country to leave the EU. 

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/next-country-to-leave-eu

 

 

[david555]

 

As for a certain  post above ....

feeled just to played safe .... i joined the poll and vote for the50 year ban ....????????????????????

Independent  Scotland welcome ????.... but dont bring those "strange neighbors" with ... ????  ????????

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1378483/Brexit-news-eu-membership-rejoin-trade-deal-boris-Johnson-latest

 

NEVER return!’ UK should be banned from rejoining the EU for 50 years after Brexit - poll
BREXIT Britain should be banned from rejoining the EU for 50 years, according to a poll of Express.co.uk readers.

By LUKE HAWKER
PUBLISHED: 22:48, Thu, Dec 31, 2020 | UPDATED: 22:50, Thu, Dec 31, 2020

.....

But, a poll of more than 16,000 Express.co.uk readers has found the overwhelming majority believe the UK should be blocked from rejoining the EU for at least half a century.

The survey conducted on December 31 from 1pm to 10pm asked 16,186 online readers, should Britain be banned from rejoining the EU for 50 years?

Edited January 1, 2021 by david555

[transam]

6 minutes ago, david555 said:

 

As for a certain  post above ....

feeled just to played safe .... i joined the poll and vote for the50 year ban ....????????????????????

Independent  Scotland welcome ????.... but dont bring those "strange neighbors" with ... ????  ????????

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1378483/Brexit-news-eu-membership-rejoin-trade-deal-boris-Johnson-latest

 

NEVER return!’ UK should be banned from rejoining the EU for 50 years after Brexit - poll
BREXIT Britain should be banned from rejoining the EU for 50 years, according to a poll of Express.co.uk readers.

By LUKE HAWKER
PUBLISHED: 22:48, Thu, Dec 31, 2020 | UPDATED: 22:50, Thu, Dec 31, 2020

.....

But, a poll of more than 16,000 Express.co.uk readers has found the overwhelming majority believe the UK should be blocked from rejoining the EU for at least half a century.

The survey conducted on December 31 from 1pm to 10pm asked 16,186 online readers, should Britain be banned from rejoining the EU for 50 years?

I think you ought to start another thread with that.....????

[luckyluke]

35 minutes ago, vogie said:

These are the odds of the next country to leave the EU. 

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/next-country-to-leave-eu

 

 

Thanks, but this is something totally unknown for me, and I must confess not understand.

What means 3/1 for Italy for instance?

And what does it concretely represent?

Many or just a few believe Italy will leave soon ?

 

[vogie]

8 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

Thanks, but this is something totally unknown for me, and I must confess not understand.

What means 3/1 for Italy for instance?

And what does it concretely represent?

Many or just a few believe Italy will leave soon ?

 

I am not a betting man but it basically means that if you put £1 on Italy to leave the EU you would win £3, not sure if you would get your £ back. The lower the odds the more chance the bookies believe that country may leave.

[IvorBiggun2]

I can't wait for Scotland to join the EU. Talk about shooting oneself in the foot.

 

 

 

[Surelynot]

9 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

I can't wait for Scotland to join the EU. Talk about shooting oneself in the foot.

 

 

 

Good point...albeit made by a robot.

 

I guess the SNP will simply argue that as bad as the deal is they still want independence (from England at least) and the price of this bad deal is a price worth paying.

 

It is the same argument put forward here for the UK....it is an atrocious deal, but a price many are happy to pay for so called independence.......a bit like shooting yourself in both feet.

[473geo]

26 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

Thanks, but this is something totally unknown for me, and I must confess not understand.

What means 3/1 for Italy for instance?

And what does it concretely represent?

Many or just a few believe Italy will leave soon ?

 

3/1 means for example a return of £3 plus your original £1 stake - the lower your return the more likely the betting company expect this outcome, looking at these odds not expecting a mass withdrawl from Europe but certainly giving the impression Italy and Greece are most likely to be the ones to follow the UK if any take that route

 

France at 8/1 would be my tip, a contrary nation of pessimists, and if the status of France in the union does not rise to the expected dizzy heights following the UK  exit...........

[473geo]

22 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Good point...albeit made by a robot.

 

I guess the SNP will simply argue that as bad as the deal is they still want independence (from England at least) and the price of this bad deal is a price worth paying.

 

It is the same argument put forward here for the UK....it is an atrocious deal, but a price many are happy to pay for so called independence.......a bit like shooting yourself in both feet.

Scotland are pushing for independence from the UK to join an alternative union

 

So the UK negotiators kick the fishing can down the road, and if, in the next 5 years, Scotland is involved in transition to EU, well fishing is not an issue they will be told it stays as it is by the EU ????

 

Trying to sit astride two horses in a kilt was bound to bring on a chill

Edited January 1, 2021 by 473geo

[nauseus]

13 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The same could be said d of a few hundred million people born and raised in the British Empire.

 

Possibly, in similar cases where people are/were persecuted after independence.

 

But mainly not in countries where their peoples actually pressed for independence.  

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, 473geo said:

3/1 means for example a return of £3 plus your original £1 stake - the lower your return the more likely the betting company expect this outcome, looking at these odds not expecting a mass withdrawl from Europe but certainly giving the impression Italy and Greece are most likely to be the ones to follow the UK if any take that route

 

France at 8/1 would be my tip, a contrary nation of pessimists, and if the status of France in the union does not rise to the expected dizzy heights following the UK  exit...........

Greece and italy are being kept alive by the EU. No chance of them leaving. Net contributors like Netherlands and Germany are much more likely to leave, but for them economic impact of the EU is still very positive.

Edited January 1, 2021 by stevenl

[473geo]

4 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Greece and italy are being kept alive by the EU. No chance of them leaving. Net contributors like Netherlands and Germany are much more likely to leave, but for them economic impact of the EU is still very positive.

Not possible you think that Italy and Greece could well place the blame firmly on the EU for having to be 'kept alive' obviously for those countries something is not working

 

[vogie]

"Media reports no delays for trucks at Dover. Quite unlike the chaos of last month when we were in the single market. Time for the media to cheer up about the majority democratic decision of a great independent nation." :John Redwood. ????????????

[Surelynot]

37 minutes ago, vogie said:

"Media reports no delays for trucks at Dover. Quite unlike the chaos of last month when we were in the single market. Time for the media to cheer up about the majority democratic decision of a great independent nation." :John Redwood. ????????????

I suspect you know that many haulage companies are all holding off to avoid the (potential) chaos.....and it's a Bank holiday.....of the 12 lorries that arrived shortly after mid-night three were turned away.

[vogie]

1 hour ago, Surelynot said:

I suspect you know that many haulage companies are all holding off to avoid the (potential) chaos.....and it's a Bank holiday.....of the 12 lorries that arrived shortly after mid-night three were turned away.

A link would be nice, but I forgot you don't do links do you. 12 lorries turned away......stands back in amazement, a whole 12 lorries.????????????

[kingdong]

6 hours ago, billd766 said:

I just did a search on Google and came up with these 2 and there are more as well. I have never really thought about it until you mentioned it.

 

Have a great New Year and keep posting.

 

https://news.ladbrokes.com/politics/british-politics/brexit-r-eu-nion-uk-16-1-to-rejoin-the-eu-before-the-end-of-2025/

 

Nick Murphy | 08.12.2020
The odds of the UK ditching Brexit and rejoining the European Union in the next few years have been drastically cut by our traders.

Following recent support from punters, we now make it a 16/1 shot (from 33s) that the UK Re-EU-nites with our neighbours on the continent by the end of 2025.

 

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/european-politics/next-country-to-leave-eu

 

 

 

Oh well if the shiny arsed traders have cut the odds we can all take rhat as gospel.

[kingdong]

2 hours ago, Surelynot said:

I suspect you know that many haulage companies are all holding off to avoid the (potential) chaos.....and it's a Bank holiday.....of the 12 lorries that arrived shortly after mid-night three were turned away.

Sacre bleu,the end is nigh.it has taken an incident like this to make me realise the armageddon facing the uk,if only we could turn the clocks back.