UK and EU reach Brexit trade deal

[candide]

3 hours ago, Surelynot said:

Pffft......what do analysts know?

 

1 hour ago, Surelynot said:

Good job we are now Global Britain now, if there is going to be global growth..........Faroe Islands here we come.

It would make it easier for other readers if you could post a link.

[Hi from France]

1 hour ago, tebee said:

Moody's have issued their evaluation of the Brexit deal, and it's not pretty - 

 

https://m.moodys.com/research/Moodys-New-Brexit-trade-agreement-confirms-macroeconomic-cost-for-UK--PBC_1262240

Guess what it brings to my mind 

 

We shall go on to the end... we shall fight on the seas and oceans,we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall never surrender. 

 

And then 

 

The island's sinking, let's take to the sky 

 

. 

Edited January 26, 2021 by Hi from France

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

 

Not pompous; simply based upon the evidence of his posts.

 

Based on your posts, your own knowledge of UK history seems woefully lacking, too.

 

Maybe now you can see what I meant?

[Loiner]

5 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 Well, it is Leave.EU who are complaining that because they are a UK organisation and so post Brexit no longer in the EU that they are longer able to use a .eu domain name!

 

I never said it damaged the UK, never said it damaged the UK in any way. I just pointed out the hypocrisy of Leave.eu wanting to retain the benefits of EU membership even after we've left and now complaining that leaving he EU meant just that; leaving the EU!

 

Which shows that Leave.eu obviously think it is important!

 

As you also did when you called the decision to stop them from using .eu as

 

Typical Brexiteer; want all the benefits of membership even though we've left!

 

 

EU pettiness and Remainer bitterness. 

[kingdong]

19 hours ago, Surelynot said:

Martin Kettle......just about nails it....the Scots are leaving.....and best of luck.

 

Brexit also marked the Johnson government as emotionally English-centred – unable to display much feeling for the other parts of the UK. This is a trait that Johnson himself embodies in a particularly southern English way, as Theresa May had also done, though without the toxic sense of entitlement that Johnson exudes

Just googled martin kettle ,guardian journalist and son of two prominent communist activists.

Edited January 26, 2021 by kingdong

[kingdong]

Just been out to my workshop to set up my lathe to machine spacers for a machine i,m buiding could have got far superior products from usa for another £30 but bought them from poland before brexit as no tax or duty and quicker delivery, which i thought was a better deal so for the sake of £30 have given myself a load of grief,lesson learnt.

[Laughing Gravy]

13 hours ago, Hi from France said:

or:

 

"Note to UK butchers. Just don't leave the single market" ????

Note to you and all others who can't move on and accept the democratic referendum result of 2016.

 

We already have left the single market.????

Edited January 26, 2021 by Laughing Gravy

[Hi from France]

1 hour ago, kingdong said:

Just googled martin kettle ,guardian journalist and son of two prominent communist activists.

Boris Johnson is the son of a MEP, who worked for the European Commission just applied for French citizenship

 

Do you believe anything he wrote as a journalist like the EU banning bendy bananas? ????

 

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The number of companies searching for a base in the Netherlands has surged in recent months

 

 

 

It's not only UK companies leaving the UK, but US and Asian businesses deciding against investing in the UK

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While around half are British companies, the other half are from places such as the US and Asia, who want a foothold in the EU, and have decided against locating in the UK following its departure from the bloc.

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/26/brexit-dutch-warehouse-boom-as-uk-firms-forced-to-invest-abroad

Edited January 26, 2021 by Hi from France

[Bluespunk]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/26/brexit-dutch-warehouse-boom-as-uk-firms-forced-to-invest-abroad

[Surelynot]

5 hours ago, kingdong said:

Just googled martin kettle ,guardian journalist and son of two prominent communist activists.

...and?

[Tofer]

On 1/26/2021 at 4:38 AM, tebee said:

At the moment there are plenty of downsides, though the upsides are more elusive.

 

"upsides are more elusive"... Not tried very hard to find them, more like..

 

For instance, without doing any lengthy research:

 

Covid vaccination roll out in UK is far more successful and better manged than in Europe. The EU are complaining, and threatening obstruction to the export of vaccines produced in Europe, since they could not manage their roll out as effectively as the UK, due to their bloated inefficient bureaucracy and MEP's self interests, only signing supply agreements 3 months after the UK, then they wonder why they are not at the front of the queue.

 

Improved immigration controls, due to the termination of the EU open boarders / free movement policy.

 

Freedom to trade world wide, without the restrictions imposed by the EU - 63 new trade deals to date and increasing.....

 

Let's be realistic for a change. It's quite obvious to anyone with a modicum of common sense, that the negatives are going to be more apparent in the early days of the transition, with teething problems, new border controls, holes in the agreement needing ironing out, and the EU's propensity towards obstructing cooperation whenever possible to punish the UK and set an example to other EU states considering the same action. But hey, don't let the remainers lack of that acumen spoil their gloating party....

 

 Did you expect instant results when you first set foot inside your college / university or in an apprenticeship, of course not, you spent 3 -7 years studying and working towards your future and the benefits of said education, investing many years at considerable cost and hardship, before you saw any financial or lifestyle benefits at all....

 

Brexit was never intended to be an instantaneous golden egg, we've got to rear the new breed of golden goose and hatch the proceeds. Have some patience and, not least, some faith, and a bit of well meaning / patriotic verve perhaps....

[Tofer]

On 1/26/2021 at 2:26 AM, Hi from France said:

He would have to convert to French high quality meat (de l’Aubrac ou de la Charolaise). 

 

Sorry, we don't do horse meat in the UK...

Edited January 27, 2021 by Tofer

[Tofer]

On 1/26/2021 at 6:45 AM, kingdong said:

Ever heard abput pricing yourself out the market?

 

Also - he who laughs last, laughs loudest".....

 

Short term disruption, for long term gain.

[Surelynot]

A man with a golden goose kills the goose, throws all the eggs away (suffering the full consequences of his actions) and then waits around for a few decades in the hope another golden goose comes along......pure genius

[Tofer]

On 1/26/2021 at 10:02 AM, Surelynot said:

I've lost that zip file with all the positives from Brexit.....must do a search.

 

Be careful, that might be seen as a considered balanced attitude, -- oh, wait, just realised, it's only more of the sad sarcasm...

[Tofer]

On 1/26/2021 at 10:31 AM, Hi from France said:

Too late, we are not in this phase anymore, Brexit was irreversible a year ago and it has become a reality for 26 days now.

 

.. we are now entering the "reality" phase.

 

 

 

.. and national-populist politicians label this phase "teething problems"

 

 

 

In the words of Andrew Bowie, Conservative Party vice-chairman.

 

 

 

 

 

as it turns out, these "teething problems" feels more like root canal surgery without anaesthetic, wrenching the UK out of the single market and the customs union while claiming the UK promotes free trade.

 

 

1. EU Financial markets and assets are going back to Europe
2. exporting British SME are advised that the only way they can go on selling is to move investments and jobs out of the UK
3. major industries are rethinking their just-in-time supply chains

 

... other major consequences appear, in the services sector and in diplomacy like the UK having to bow to EU demands to give full credence to its ambassador (in a matter of weeks or days ?).

 

This is not an hypothetical "project fear", this is root canal surgery here and now.

 

.

 

 

 

 

Gloat, gloat, gloat, from the people with no vision....

 

Get real, instant gratification is a myth, and was never promised..... 

[Tofer]

On 1/26/2021 at 12:35 AM, welovesundaysatspace said:

Good the <deleted> was deleted. 

 

Can't face the truth, and now gloating over the removal of a post proving it, obviously having saved yourself the embarrassment of being proved wrong...

[bannork]

1 hour ago, Tofer said:

 

"upsides are more elusive"... Not tried very hard to find them, more like..

 

For instance, without doing any lengthy research:

 

Covid vaccination roll out in UK is far more successful and better manged than in Europe. The EU are complaining, and threatening obstruction to the export of vaccines produced in Europe, since they could not manage their roll out as effectively as the UK, due to their bloated inefficient bureaucracy and MEP's self interests, only signing supply agreements 3 months after the UK, then they wonder why they are not at the front of the queue.

 

Improved immigration controls, due to the termination of the EU open boarders / free movement policy.

 

Freedom to trade world wide, without the restrictions imposed by the EU - 63 new trade deals to date and increasing.....

 

Let's be realistic for a change. It's quite obvious to anyone with a modicum of common sense, that the negatives are going to be more apparent in the early days of the transition, with teething problems, new border controls, holes in the agreement needing ironing out, and the EU's propensity towards obstructing cooperation whenever possible to punish the UK and set an example to other EU states considering the same action. But hey, don't let the remainers lack of that acumen spoil their gloating party....

 

 Did you expect instant results when you first set foot inside your college / university or in an apprenticeship, of course not, you spent 3 -7 years studying and working towards your future and the benefits of said education, investing many years at considerable cost and hardship, before you saw any financial or lifestyle benefits at all....

 

Brexit was never intended to be an instantaneous golden egg, we've got to rear the new breed of golden goose and hatch the proceeds. Have some patience and, not least, some faith, and a bit of well meaning / patriotic verve perhaps....

60 of those 61 trade deals are simply rollover deals from EU days.

Vaccination better but 100,000 dead from Covid. Bad, bad, governance.

Regarding border controls- there are none for goods at the moment. The government couldn't get enough customs officers or the IT system up and running  in time so it's 'wave those lorries through, boys' time.

[nauseus]

6 hours ago, Hi from France said:

Boris Johnson is the son of a MEP, who worked for the European Commission just applied for French citizenship

 

Do you believe anything he wrote as a journalist like the EU banning bendy bananas? ????

 

 

 

 

It's not only UK companies leaving the UK, but US and Asian businesses deciding against investing in the UK

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/26/brexit-dutch-warehouse-boom-as-uk-firms-forced-to-invest-abroad

 

Boris Johnson has not applied for French citizenship and is too young to have written professionally about bendy bananas.

[david555]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/26/brexit-dutch-warehouse-boom-as-uk-firms-forced-to-invest-abroad

Netherlands

Brexit: Dutch warehouse boom as UK firms forced to invest abroad

Hornby and JD Sports among firms after space to offset port delays, extra freight costs plus new VAT and customs fees

 

Joanna Partridge

Tue 26 Jan 2021 15.53 GMT

Last modified on Tue 26 Jan 2021 19.07 GMT

 

 

Logistics and warehousing companies in the Netherlands are being inundated with requests from British businesses looking to rent warehouse space, as the country experiences a Brexit boom in investment and jobs.

Edited January 27, 2021 by david555

[Loiner]

3 hours ago, Tofer said:

 

Sorry, we don't do horse meat in the UK...

Not unless we are being scammed with it in our meatballs and lasagna, undetected by EU standards, carried out by yet another network of EU criminals. 

[david555]

 

 

(This the reason a delivery block could become ...E.U. still inquiring ...the company ...why those delay's....)

 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/01/26/eus-coronavirus-jabs-may-have-ended-britain/

 

EU's coronavirus jabs 'may have ended up' in Britain
Ursula von der Leyen doubles down on vaccine export ban threat as row over AstraZeneca doses deepens

By
James Crisp,
 BRUSSELS CORRESPONDENT
26 January 2021 • 12:41pm

AstraZeneca vaccines meant for and paid for by the EU could have ended up in Britain, diplomatic sources in Brussels claimed today. 

The suspicion is that the British-Swedish pharmaceutical company supplied the UK from the EU vaccine stock because Britain paid a higher price for the dose and approved it soon

 

 

Edited January 27, 2021 by david555

[Tofer]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

60 of those 61 trade deals are simply rollover deals from EU days.

 

So what, they're ours...

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EU Turns the Screws on Bankers Clinging to Their London Desks

London financiers are discovering that warnings from the European Union over the cost of Brexit are more than tough talk.

Even the global pandemic’s fallout didn’t provide any wiggle room for the world’s largest interdealer broker, TP ICAP Plc.

The London-based firm said Monday it was prevented from serving all its EU clients because it hadn’t completed its planned relocation of staff to Paris.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-26/eu-turns-the-screws-on-financiers-clinging-to-their-london-desks

[Tofer]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

The government couldn't get enough customs officers or the IT system up and running  in time so it's 'wave those lorries through, boys' time.

 

Perhaps they're just honouring the principles of the free trade agreement, in respect to the cooperation clauses, instead of the petty and belligerent  actions and attitude of the EU.

[david555]

19 minutes ago, Tofer said:

 

So what, they're ours...

And  E.U. proud you still follow those in your " independence " ????....????

[Opl]

3 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Boris Johnson has not applied for French citizenship and is too young to have written professionally about bendy bananas.

"The 2021 Henley Passport Index, which conducts a survey every year to analyze which countries’ passports offer the most visa-free travels, has placed the UK in seventh position in the world, meaning that despite all the pre-Brexit worries about the freedom to travel being more limited, the new blue passport is one place up from its eighth position last year, although only 7 years ago, in 2014, the UK passport was the strongest in the world."

 

The UK Passport Is MORE Powerful After Brexit a survey revealed (euroweeklynews.com)

How Powerful Is Your Passport? These Are The Best, Post-Pandemic, In 2021 (forbes.com)

Edited January 27, 2021 by Opl

[placeholder]

13 minutes ago, Opl said:

"The 2021 Henley Passport Index, which conducts a survey every year to analyze which countries’ passports offer the most visa-free travels, has placed the UK in seventh position in the world, meaning that despite all the pre-Brexit worries about the freedom to travel being more limited, the new blue passport is one place up from its eighth position last year, although only 7 years ago, in 2014, the UK passport was the strongest in the world."

 

The UK Passport Is MORE Powerful After Brexit a survey revealed (euroweeklynews.com)

How Powerful Is Your Passport? These Are The Best, Post-Pandemic, In 2021 (forbes.com)

Actually it's tied for the 16th most powerful. There are 15 nations whose passports are judged to be more powerful.

[david555]

9 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Actually it's tied for the 16th most powerful. There are 15 nations whose passports are judged to be more powerful.

Global Passport Ranking, 2020 > CEOWORLD magazine 

40 first rankings to see ...., but  looking again ..., this about 2020 .... so what about 2021 with the full U.K. independence ?

Edited January 27, 2021 by david555

[Tofer]

2 hours ago, david555 said:

E.U. proud you still follow those in your " independence

 

I think you'll find the majority of the terms are free trade agreements, unlike those of the EU.

 

What was it - 87% tariff on NZ beef?