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14 minutes ago, candide said:

She's stuck between a rock and a hard place. She must claim that people did not believe it so that no damage has been done. But she also needs to claim she believed what she said, in order to show she did not intend to defame Dominion! ????

So are "people"  (as in in  normal average  stupid  representatives of an eligible  voting  public ) excusable whereas she ( being a superior intellectual  Dumper fan) above all  social criteria? Perhaps a Hand Maiden to the rulers of the  Void? Such a  shame  Einstein was never  asked to  theorize the validity improbability  of  political sedimentary  excrement!

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30 minutes ago, muzley said:

Sidney Powell is not backing down. More MSM fake news!!

Wisconsin was added today to Arizona, Georgia and New Hampshire who are now doing proper audits and looking into Dominion machines results from 2020 election.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/sidney-powell-dismisses-lawsuit-defense-fake-news-doubles-down-on-conspiracies/ar-BB1eURrl

 

 

Complete B.S.! MSM never wrote that she was backing down!

 

You will not be able to back your claim with MSM articles claiming she backed down!

 

You fell into Powell's lies once again!

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31 minutes ago, muzley said:

Sidney Powell is not backing down. More MSM fake news!!

Wisconsin was added today to Arizona, Georgia and New Hampshire who are now doing proper audits and looking into Dominion machines results from 2020 election.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/sidney-powell-dismisses-lawsuit-defense-fake-news-doubles-down-on-conspiracies/ar-BB1eURrl

 

 

So saying no reasonable person would believe her lies is not backing down?

 

Thats gold medal mental gymnastics right there.

 

Perhaps she needs a cunning linguist.

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On 3/25/2021 at 9:00 PM, candide said:

Complete B.S.! MSM never wrote that she was backing down!

 

You will not be able to back your claim with MSM articles claiming she backed down!

 

You fell into Powell's lies once again!

Sidney's lawyer will clear it up for you all.

 

Official Statement from Sidney’s Lawyer
HOWARD KLEINHENDLER, ATTORNEY FOR SIDNEY POWELL, RESPONDS TO MEDIA ALLEGATIONS CONCERNING MOTION TO DISMISS FILED AGAINST DOMINION COMPLAINT

New York, New York March 23, 2021

Yesterday, several news media outlets cut and paste out of context portions of our motion to dismiss the Dominion complaint to “spin” a message that the election fraud allegations that Ms. Powell presented to various courts and to the public were not credible. I’d like to clarify what actually was presented to the court. First, let me be clear: any suggestion that “no reasonable person” would believe Ms. Powell or her comments on the election is false. The language these reports referred to is a legal standard adopted by the courts to determine whether statements qualify as opinions which are exempt from defamation liability.

As the DC Circuit reaffirmed just last week, there is no claim for defamation when the alleged “defamatory” statement is a legal opinion. Ms. Powell’s statements fall precisely into this category. Ms. Powell reviewed sworn affidavits, declarations, expert testimony, and other highly corroborated evidence concerning the election which Ms. Powell filed with the courts and shared publicly. She continues to stand by those opinions today. Our motion, in part, argues that the Dominion case should be dismissed because legal opinions are not grounds for defamation.

In sum, the legal standard of a technical legal defense crafted by the courts has been improperly manipulated by the media to tell a false narrative. Ms. Powell is not backing down or retracting her previous statements concerning Dominion. Dominion’s case lacks legal merit and should be dismissed in its entirety.

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On 3/26/2021 at 8:20 PM, Sujo said:

Hows the court cases for election fraud going?

 

Surely if trump thinks its an issue he will asl for recounts in all states that uses them. Or does it only matter in the states he lost, bigly.

There are cases still proceeding through the courts.

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Posted
17 minutes ago, muzley said:

There are cases still proceeding through the courts.

waiting for the kraken.

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24 minutes ago, muzley said:

Sidney's lawyer will clear it up for you all.

 

Official Statement from Sidney’s Lawyer
HOWARD KLEINHENDLER, ATTORNEY FOR SIDNEY POWELL, RESPONDS TO MEDIA ALLEGATIONS CONCERNING MOTION TO DISMISS FILED AGAINST DOMINION COMPLAINT

New York, New York March 23, 2021

Yesterday, several news media outlets cut and paste out of context portions of our motion to dismiss the Dominion complaint to “spin” a message that the election fraud allegations that Ms. Powell presented to various courts and to the public were not credible. I’d like to clarify what actually was presented to the court. First, let me be clear: any suggestion that “no reasonable person” would believe Ms. Powell or her comments on the election is false. The language these reports referred to is a legal standard adopted by the courts to determine whether statements qualify as opinions which are exempt from defamation liability.

As the DC Circuit reaffirmed just last week, there is no claim for defamation when the alleged “defamatory” statement is a legal opinion. Ms. Powell’s statements fall precisely into this category. Ms. Powell reviewed sworn affidavits, declarations, expert testimony, and other highly corroborated evidence concerning the election which Ms. Powell filed with the courts and shared publicly. She continues to stand by those opinions today. Our motion, in part, argues that the Dominion case should be dismissed because legal opinions are not grounds for defamation.

In sum, the legal standard of a technical legal defense crafted by the courts has been improperly manipulated by the media to tell a false narrative. Ms. Powell is not backing down or retracting her previous statements concerning Dominion. Dominion’s case lacks legal merit and should be dismissed in its entirety.

Funny how all those affidavits and expert opinions all got thrown out of court becsuse they were worthless.

 

But by all means, keep the faith.

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19 minutes ago, muzley said:

Sidney's lawyer will clear it up for you all.

 

Official Statement from Sidney’s Lawyer
HOWARD KLEINHENDLER, ATTORNEY FOR SIDNEY POWELL, RESPONDS TO MEDIA ALLEGATIONS CONCERNING MOTION TO DISMISS FILED AGAINST DOMINION COMPLAINT

New York, New York March 23, 2021

Yesterday, several news media outlets cut and paste out of context portions of our motion to dismiss the Dominion complaint to “spin” a message that the election fraud allegations that Ms. Powell presented to various courts and to the public were not credible. I’d like to clarify what actually was presented to the court. First, let me be clear: any suggestion that “no reasonable person” would believe Ms. Powell or her comments on the election is false. The language these reports referred to is a legal standard adopted by the courts to determine whether statements qualify as opinions which are exempt from defamation liability.

As the DC Circuit reaffirmed just last week, there is no claim for defamation when the alleged “defamatory” statement is a legal opinion. Ms. Powell’s statements fall precisely into this category. Ms. Powell reviewed sworn affidavits, declarations, expert testimony, and other highly corroborated evidence concerning the election which Ms. Powell filed with the courts and shared publicly. She continues to stand by those opinions today. Our motion, in part, argues that the Dominion case should be dismissed because legal opinions are not grounds for defamation.

In sum, the legal standard of a technical legal defense crafted by the courts has been improperly manipulated by the media to tell a false narrative. Ms. Powell is not backing down or retracting her previous statements concerning Dominion. Dominion’s case lacks legal merit and should be dismissed in its entirety.

And that's exactly what MSM have reported, for example CNN, including her attorney's statements:

"Indeed, Plaintiffs themselves characterize the statements at issue as 'wild accusations' and 'outlandish claims.' They are repeatedly labelled 'inherently improbable' and even 'impossible.' Such characterizations of the allegedly defamatory statements further support Defendants' position that reasonable people would not accept such statements as fact but view them only as claims that await testing by the courts through the adversary process."

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/22/politics/sidney-powell-dominion-lawsuit-election-fraud/index.html

 

The other MSM articles I read were similar. She's making up claims, as usual.

 

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Posted
1 minute ago, candide said:

Now, one question: there have been many court cases already, and they obviously did not convince you. If these new court ruling recuse again Trump's fraud claim, will you stop believing in the Big Lie? I think I already know the answer.

What chance have they got now that she's admitted her claims were lies?

Posted
1 hour ago, muzley said:

I think you mean legalized cheating by the Dems. As stated many times you need ID for just about everything including entry into the Democratic Convention but not for elections!!! Sen Blunt grilling a Uni professor who claims purging dead voters off the electoral roll is voter suppression!!

 

It is laughable.

I see you are still smarting from the loss by your dumb and lying ex-president, well get over it because it's long gone and none of his/their lawsuits had any merit whatsoever, and that was even the verdict of the High Court judges, who were predominantly Republican.

 

Find something else to occupy your time, how about basket weaving or flower pressing just like the "proud boys"?
 

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Posted
2 hours ago, candide said:

In brief, she needs to claim she's a complete moron in order to avoid conviction

On that basis (and having watched only brief clips of her in action)  she should be free

 

PH

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Posted
8 hours ago, muzley said:

I think you mean legalized cheating by the Dems. As stated many times you need ID for just about everything including entry into the Democratic Convention but not for elections!!! Sen Blunt grilling a Uni professor who claims purging dead voters off the electoral roll is voter suppression!!

 

It is laughable.

The accusation of "legalized cheating" would carry much more weight if you could come up with evidence of widespread cheating.  Even a few examples would help.  How many dead people voted?

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17 hours ago, muzley said:

Sidney's lawyer will clear it up for you all.

 

Official Statement from Sidney’s Lawyer
HOWARD KLEINHENDLER, ATTORNEY FOR SIDNEY POWELL, RESPONDS TO MEDIA ALLEGATIONS CONCERNING MOTION TO DISMISS FILED AGAINST DOMINION COMPLAINT

New York, New York March 23, 2021

Yesterday, several news media outlets cut and paste out of context portions of our motion to dismiss the Dominion complaint to “spin” a message that the election fraud allegations that Ms. Powell presented to various courts and to the public were not credible. I’d like to clarify what actually was presented to the court. First, let me be clear: any suggestion that “no reasonable person” would believe Ms. Powell or her comments on the election is false. The language these reports referred to is a legal standard adopted by the courts to determine whether statements qualify as opinions which are exempt from defamation liability.

As the DC Circuit reaffirmed just last week, there is no claim for defamation when the alleged “defamatory” statement is a legal opinion. Ms. Powell’s statements fall precisely into this category. Ms. Powell reviewed sworn affidavits, declarations, expert testimony, and other highly corroborated evidence concerning the election which Ms. Powell filed with the courts and shared publicly. She continues to stand by those opinions today. Our motion, in part, argues that the Dominion case should be dismissed because legal opinions are not grounds for defamation.

In sum, the legal standard of a technical legal defense crafted by the courts has been improperly manipulated by the media to tell a false narrative. Ms. Powell is not backing down or retracting her previous statements concerning Dominion. Dominion’s case lacks legal merit and should be dismissed in its entirety.

This is nonsense of course. Labelling something a legal opinion doesn't make it so. It's one thing to make allegations in a legal document. But to speak slanderous words in public or write libelous documents not composed in service of the legal system is quite another. Just because Sidney Powell is a lawyer doesn't mean she has carte blanche to assert whatever she wants to in whatever venue she chooses. This gambit will be laughed out of court.

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14 hours ago, heybruce said:

The accusation of "legalized cheating" would carry much more weight if you could come up with evidence of widespread cheating.  Even a few examples would help.  How many dead people voted?

I believe one person has been charged for voting on behalf of his deceased mother.  Not heard of any other instances.  Gues who "she" voted for?

 

PH

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