We all seem to have been blindsided, self included.

 

I mean we know that millions around the world are being vaccinated under emergency approval for the vaccines, but what we seem to have forgotten is that there were no animal trials, and of course the reason was to speed up the process, so my question is, will they still be doing animal trials or are we the guinea pigs for all future vaccines so to speak ?

 

Without animal trials aren't we missing out on a lot of information that could otherwise help us to understand the long term affects of the vaccines, how they interact with pre-existing conditions, autoimmune disease etc, etc ?

 

Why not continue to do animal trials while still vaccinating people or are we to assume that animal trials are a thing of the past, and each time moving forward they can go straight to the guinea pigs (us) with new vaccines ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

We all seem to have been blindsided, self included.

 

I mean we know that millions around the world are being vaccinated under emergency approval for the vaccines, but what we seem to have forgotten is that there were no animal trials, and of course the reason was to speed up the process, so my question is, will they still be doing animal trials or are we the guinea pigs for all future vaccines so to speak ?

 

Without animal trials are we missing out on a lot of information that could otherwise help us to understand the long term affects of the vaccines, how they interact with pre-existing conditions, autoimmune disease etc, etc ?

 

If so why not continue to do animal trials while still vaccinating people or are we to assume that animal trials are a thing of the past now, so straight to the guinea pigs (humans) now ?

 

I think you'll find all the animal trials were carried out before the clinical trials of phase 1,2 and 3

9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I think you'll find all the animal trials were carried out before the clinical trials of phase 1,2 and 3

 

I suppose it depends what you read or what information you get, this is from December 2020.

 

https://www.peta.org/media/news-releases/peta-statement-pfizer-biontech-emergency-use-authorization-against-the-novel-coronavirus/

1 minute ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

I suppose it depends what you read or what information you get, this is from December 2020.

 

https://www.peta.org/media/news-releases/peta-statement-pfizer-biontech-emergency-use-authorization-against-the-novel-coronavirus/

Ok thanks, luckily I said in my statement that "I think" ????

 

Indeed so some have been by passing the animal trials according to that article.

This was a claim from antivaxxers:  no animal tests were performed as using mRNA vaccines on animals 'trigger dangerous inflammation'. Actually, to speed up vaccines trials, tests were conducted by both Pfizer and Moderna on animals and humans (in phase I trials) at the same time.https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9792931264. 

 

PETA in the US does not approve of experimenting on animals.  Humans are OK because they can say yes.

On 1/29/2021 at 5:43 PM, cormanr7 said:

This was a claim from antivaxxers:  no animal tests were performed as using mRNA vaccines on animals 'trigger dangerous inflammation'. Actually, to speed up vaccines trials, tests were conducted by both Pfizer and Moderna on animals and humans (in phase I trials) at the same time.https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9792931264. 

 

 

The fact-checking link shows it is dated November 2020, my link is December 2020, makes me wonder which is more relevant ?

 

https://www.peta.org/media/news-releases/peta-statement-pfizer-biontech-emergency-use-authorization-against-the-novel-coronavirus/

Yea but there were no infect trials.  I would rather die from covid than take a vaccine that was not tried on insects. 

What if , after taking the vaccine I developed the urge to chirp like a cricket? 

48 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Yea but there were no infect trials.  I would rather die from covid than take a vaccine that was not tried on insects. 

What if , after taking the vaccine I developed the urge to chirp like a cricket? 

You mean you don't have the urge to chirp like a cricket? I feel so lonely.

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

You mean you don't have the urge to chirp like a cricket? I feel so lonely.

See what I mean. If you had paid attention to these threads and not taken the vaccine, rather than chirping like a cricket all by your self,  

you would be chirping a different toon with much more company. Perhaps a more manly baritone chirp like mine. ????

@4MyEgoYou may find these 3 links contain useful answers - none is a conspiracy site - at least I fervently hope not!

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000qdzd/panorama-the-race-for-a-vaccine

 

https://theconversation.com/less-than-a-year-to-develop-a-covid-vaccine-heres-why-you-shouldnt-be-alarmed-150414 

 

https://rs-delve.github.io/reports/2020/10/01/covid19-vaccination-report.html