Sidegra, Kamagra, Viagra and Cialis

[Rockhopper]

On 3/15/2021 at 9:07 AM, Mister Fixit said:

Clot.  What is more natural than enjoying having sex with your loved one?  ????????

So just because I am 72, I should suddenly stop having sex?  That sounds remarkably like a little bit of jealousy there ...

Jeez, I have read some idiocies on here but that one takes the biscuit!  

I realize that everyone reacts  differently but I am 75 years old with a Thai wife that is 20 years younger and we have sex at least once a week and sometimes more. I use 50mg. Thai equal to Viagra.

She says we have sex often to keep me from wondering. ????????

[rcuthbert]

Boron reduces the effect of SHBG upon free testosterone.

https://www.google.ca/search?source=hp&ei=aElQYJPrMMiW4-EPs6uZgAQ&iflsig=AINFCbYAAAAAYFBXeNzOX6iwOZL1ZfhZDEIOrwuT4Wvz&q=boron+shbg+study&oq=boron+shbg&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYAjICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCAAyBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjoICAAQ6gIQjwE6CAgAELEDEIMBOgsILhCxAxDHARCvAToFCAAQsQM6CwguELEDEMcBEKMCOg4ILhCxAxCDARDHARCvAToLCC4QsQMQgwEQkwI6BQguELEDOggILhCxAxCDAToCCC46CAguEMcBEK8BUPsbWNt6YJmqAWgBcAB4AIABjgKIAdwOkgEFMC43LjOYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6sAEE&sclient=gws-wiz

[xylophone]

27 minutes ago, Rockhopper said:

She says we have sex often to keep me from wondering. 

Wondering what? ????

[murraynz]

On 3/15/2021 at 8:29 AM, Peterw42 said:

OP, You are comparing 3 products that are the same active ingredients and the same strength of the active ingredient.

If you think you are reacting differently to different "brand names" of the same thing, that is probably more in your own imagination.

You dismiss Cialis, which is actually a different active ingredient.

Testosterone is not a cure for ED

Dont ever forget that phsycology also plays a huge part..

Some ladies,turn me on bigtime,easily...just with sexy kissing,yet sometimes,with an equaly attractive lady,i dont perform,so well.

I take 1 viagra 100mg..

Im very close to 70

[BobinBKK]

On 3/15/2021 at 7:46 AM, Orton Rd said:

Why bother with all that just to have sex? not having it is a relief, just give it up. 

Try changing the girl every so often... I get bored and the change of scenery always works for me ????

[BobinBKK]

On 3/15/2021 at 9:07 AM, Mister Fixit said:

Clot.  What is more natural than enjoying having sex with your loved one?  ????????

So just because I am 72, I should suddenly stop having sex?  That sounds remarkably like a little bit of jealousy there ...

Jeez, I have read some idiocies on here but that one takes the biscuit!  

There's biscuits?

[rcuthbert]

I have saved tons of cash since I got high speed Internet.

 

[salsajapan]

meds work better when the girl is super hot and you really like her.

 

i have tried with some hookers and meds do not work as well as with the high so business owners that I do.

 

[wwest5829]

On 3/15/2021 at 8:50 AM, polpott said:

What's more natural than sex? its the font of life.

Assume pun intended ... ha!

[shoupy]

Tung Saw

[Banana7]

On 3/15/2021 at 9:18 AM, Mister Fixit said:

Thanks for that information.  I will look into it, but I don't think I will be paying 9,000 baht for one.

My lovely lady doctor at the heart hospital told me 10 days ago she had never seen a 72 year old look as healthy and vibrant as me - she said a was 'bursting with health'.  Nice of her but I didn't mention the 'down below' problems.

If I didn't have them I may well have tried it on with her!!  ????

What's your doctor's name? I'd like to meet her.

[JimmyJ]

The OP asked - Which Testosterone tests?

 

The urologist at Bangkok Hospital in CM recommended:

Testosterone

FSH

LSH

 

(The acronyms from memory but those or very close)

 

I only read 1.5 pages here but 2 guys did away with condoms.

 

What solution other than either living dangerously or a dedicated long term relationship?

(I hate condoms also but too cautious to do without STD protection).

 

 

Edited March 16, 2021 by JimmyJ

[jackdd]

52 minutes ago, JimmyJ said:

The OP asked - Which Testosterone tests?

 

The urologist at Bangkok Hospital in CM recommended:

Testosterone

FSH

LSH

I recommend to not ask an Urologist about hormones, because as we can see here you might get wrong information. If you want to involve a doctor, consult an endocrinologist.

To know what's up with your Testosterone, you want to know your Testosterone, SHBG and Albumin levels, from them the "Free Testosterone" and "Bioavailable Testosterone" can be calculated. From these readings you know if you have enough testosterone and if your body can use it properly.

[Mister Fixit]

1 hour ago, Banana7 said:

What's your doctor's name? I'd like to meet her.

Hands off!   I am fairly sure she is a touch keen on me too!  ????

She's not too bad though, is she?  And a lovely personality to boot and twinkly eyes as well.

I would, given half a chance ...

 

Edited March 16, 2021 by Mister Fixit

[Mister Fixit]

3 hours ago, BobinBKK said:

There's biscuits?

Well, I am hooked on decent strong British tea, but being on a strict keto diet for almost 4 years, biscuits are strictly off the menu.

 

[Mister Fixit]

5 hours ago, Rockhopper said:

I realize that everyone reacts  differently but I am 75 years old with a Thai wife that is 20 years younger and we have sex at least once a week and sometimes more. I use 50mg. Thai equal to Viagra.

She says we have sex often to keep me from wondering. ????????

Well done.  Keep it up!  Ha!   

I was 72 in January gone and my wife will be 52 in July so you are similar to me but this hormonal issue means I have to take more stuff.

We have sex at least once a week, but I suppose it can be anywhere between 4 to 6 times a month.  60-75% of the time it's fine, but the incidence of things dropping off and needing revival has increased over the last 12 months.

[Mister Fixit]

6 hours ago, jackdd said:

GPO isn't an underground lab. Underground lab means somebody could be mixing it in his kitchen.

From my personal experience Sidegra worked just as well as the other brands, but cheaper, so I have nothing to complain.

I didn't say the GPO WAS an underground lab and I know what one is.  I just asked if Cypionax was made by them.

I found Sidegra worked OK for the first maybe 9 months then it's efficacy fell off so I reverted to Kamagra which has been fine until maybe 3-4 months ago.

As I have mentioned in other posts,. my excellent local pharmacist says that generally, GPO-made meds are not very good compared to branded ones

[xtrnuno41]

As i understood from reading some, a man can go into andro pause in life. testosterone levels decline.

It is the same as meno pause with women.

Missing those hormones can change your body, breaking down muscle and breaking down bones for instance, osteoporosis. It can be even, when you sneeze , you break a rib.

Could have way much more effects, as in way of moods and so on. Same as with women.

The ED pills can work, but never the less, if your mind is not set  to it (feeling horny) then it couldnt work at all. Ed pills only widen your veins so blood can flow more easily. But if you dont feel horny you might forget. Take some pils and think about your grandma, you will not be able to get it working. 

[Mister Fixit]

OK guys, I have been shopping today and also developed a plan.

First, I am going for my testosterone jab on Friday as planned, and I am going to ask her to get a test for total cholesterol done so I have a benchmark.  If she can get oestrogen done as well, then that too.
If any of the results are low, then we know we have to do something.  

In any event, when I go to Phramontkutklao (Army) hospital on 19 April for my 6 monthly knee checkup, I will ask the Prof to refer me to either or both of the endocrinology or urology departments the same day.  Then we can start the process of what's going on down below, although I am pretty convinced it's an endocrine issue.  

I actually DID go there about 14-15 years ago when a nurse I knew there got me in but I stopped going for shots after about 6 months and just decided to use my local clinic for convenience.

In the shorter term, I have been shopping today and I will carry out some hopefully semi-scientific investigations over the next few weeks to see what works best.

I stuck with Kamagra at 250 for a strip of 4 and also bought some Kamagra gels which used to work well a while back.

I baulked at buying genuine Viagra at 1,800 baht for 4 and genuine Cialis at 2,000 baht!  S0d that for a game of soldiers.

Wish me luck and I will keep you informed!  ????

Edited March 16, 2021 by Mister Fixit

[jackdd]

17 minutes ago, Mister Fixit said:

I didn't say the GPO WAS an underground lab and I know what one is.  I just asked if Cypionax was made by them.

No, Cypionax is not made by them, because it's probably made by an underground lab.

On this website we can look up info about Drugs approved by the Thai FDA, in this case Cypionax: http://ndi.fda.moph.go.th/drug_detail/index/?ndrug=2&rctype=1A&rcno=5300464&lpvncd=&lcntpcd=&lcnno=&licensee_no=

As we can see there it's registered by TP Drug Laboratories, and it's supposed to come in either 100mg/amp or 250mg/amp.

If we now visit the manufacturer's website: http://www.tpdrug.com/en/products/ We notice that they don't list Cypionax. The Cypionax currently sold in Thailand also comes in 200mg/amp which isn't registered with the Thai FDA.

From this information I conclude that TP Drug probably produced Cypionax in the past, but stopped doing so, and now there is an underground lab which continues producing test under this name.

Edited March 16, 2021 by jackdd

[Mister Fixit]

3 minutes ago, jackdd said:

No, Cypionax is not made by them, because it's probably made by an underground lab.

On this website we can look up info about Drugs approved by the Thai FDA, in this case Cypionax: http://ndi.fda.moph.go.th/drug_detail/index/?ndrug=2&rctype=1A&rcno=5300464&lpvncd=&lcntpcd=&lcnno=&licensee_no=

As we can see there it's registered by TP Drug Laboratories, and it's supposed to come in either 100mg/amp or 250mg/amp.

If we now visit the manufacturer's website: http://www.tpdrug.com/en/products/ We notice that they don't list Cypionax. The Cypionax currently sold in Thailand also comes in 200mg/amp which isn't registered with the Thai FDA.

From this information I conclude that TP Drug probably produced Cypionax in the past, but stopped doing so, and now there is an underground lab which continues producing test under this name.

Thanks for that.  Well worth avoiding then.  I have a former student who is the central Thailand regional manager for Pfizer.  I'll run it past him, see what he knows, if anything.

[Mister Fixit]

16 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

As i understood from reading some, a man can go into andro pause in life. testosterone levels decline.

It is the same as meno pause with women.

Missing those hormones can change your body, breaking down muscle and breaking down bones for instance, osteoporosis. It can be even, when you sneeze , you break a rib.

Could have way much more effects, as in way of moods and so on. Same as with women.

The ED pills can work, but never the less, if your mind is not set  to it (feeling horny) then it couldnt work at all. Ed pills only widen your veins so blood can flow more easily. But if you dont feel horny you might forget. Take some pils and think about your grandma, you will not be able to get it working. 

Yes, I know all that, because that's what's been happening to me.

I don't have issues with muscle mass or osteoporosis.

And I know what happens when you don't feel horny as well.  That's why I wait until I do, same as any other bloke, I suppose.  ????

But having said that, it's still a problem that men's mid and late life issues are still not properly recognised and catered for.

[xtrnuno41]

11 minutes ago, Mister Fixit said:

OK guys, I have been shopping today and also developed a plan.

First, I am going for my testosterone jab on Friday as planned, and I am going to ask her to get a test for total cholesterol done so I have a benchmark.  If she can get oestrogen done as well, then that too.
If any of the results are low, then we know we have to do something.  

In any event, when I go to Phramontkutklao (Army) hospital on 19 April for my 6 monthly knee checkup, I will ask the Prof to refer me to either or both of the endocrinology or urology departments the same day.  Then we can start the process of what's going on down below, although I am pretty convinced it's an endocrine issue.  

I actually DID go there about 14-15 years ago when a nurse I knew there got me in but I stopped going for shots after about 6 months and just decided to use my local clinic for convenience.

In the shorter term, I have been shopping today and I will carry out some hopefully semi-scientific investigations over the next few weeks to see what works best.

I stuck with Kamagra at 250 for a strip of 4 and also bought some Kamagra gels which used to work well a while back.

I baulked at buying genuine Viagra at 1,800 baht for 4 and genuine Cialis at 2,000 baht!  S0d that for a game of soldiers.

Wish me luck and I will keep you informed!  ????

 

Well if your estrogens level is low, that will be good, that is for women important.

If for you it is too HIGH, you can have man boobs. 

Tough cholesterol is important for making testosterone, it doenst say you have higher testosterone.

IF the cholesterol isnt transformed into testosterone, then you only have high cholesterol and you could have other problems. Dont get tricked the into having statines, they are bad.

Had them and made my life a hell and i found out by searching internet, they can really destroy your life.

 

 

[rcuthbert]

Provironum (Mesterolone) is an effective medicine for increasing sexual desire. Also, it does not convert to estrogen, and it does not effect the HPTA. Many guys take 50mg per day. Fascino Pharmacy sells 50 25mg pills for 510 baht.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesterolone

[bkk6060]

10 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

Dont get tricked the into having statines, they are bad.

Had them and made my life a hell and i found out by searching internet, they can really destroy your life.

 

?

200 million people take them.

And:
FACT: Published studies have shown that patients who are taking statins and at risk for cardiovascular disease, increase that risk if they stop taking the medicine. One alarming study of 28,000 patients found that 3 in 10 stopped taking their statins because they presumed the aches and pains they were experiencing were due to the drug. The result: 8.5% suffered a heart attack or stroke within just four years, compared to 7.6% who continued taking the drugs¹³. And there is good evidence that the benefits of statin use continue well into old age¹⁴.

“There is absolutely no question that the benefits of statins far outweigh any risk,” heart-attack patient Raymond Savoy now says. “You owe it to yourself to see for yourself – to review the many published, peer-reviewed studies, from reputable institutions. The stakes are simply too high to do otherwise.”

 

Just because you had a problem ridiculous to bad mouth a drug that increases life possibly in millions of lives.

[Mister Fixit]

51 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

 

Well if your estrogens level is low, that will be good, that is for women important.

If for you it is too HIGH, you can have man boobs. 

Tough cholesterol is important for making testosterone, it doenst say you have higher testosterone.

IF the cholesterol isnt transformed into testosterone, then you only have high cholesterol and you could have other problems. Dont get tricked the into having statines, they are bad.

Had them and made my life a hell and i found out by searching internet, they can really destroy your life.

 

 

Thanks for that information.  I see you are in the Netherlands - I am half-Dutch although born in England.

My mother was born in Middelburg but moved to Eindhoven.  Sorry, I don't speak Dutch, which is annoying.

I do have slight man-boobs, but I think that is due to being significantly obese for many years and despite my considerable weight loss, there is still some residual fat to get rid of.

A question - when you said 'Tough cholesterol' what did you mean?  Did you mean 'though cholesterol is important for making testosterone ...'?

I do have high cholesterol so I am interested in learning more about how it helps in producing testosterone.

Edited March 16, 2021 by Mister Fixit

[xtrnuno41]

3 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

?

200 million people take them.

And:
FACT: Published studies have shown that patients who are taking statins and at risk for cardiovascular disease, increase that risk if they stop taking the medicine. One alarming study of 28,000 patients found that 3 in 10 stopped taking their statins because they presumed the aches and pains they were experiencing were due to the drug. The result: 8.5% suffered a heart attack or stroke within just four years, compared to 7.6% who continued taking the drugs¹³. And there is good evidence that the benefits of statin use continue well into old age¹⁴.

“There is absolutely no question that the benefits of statins far outweigh any risk,” heart-attack patient Raymond Savoy now says. “You owe it to yourself to see for yourself – to review the many published, peer-reviewed studies, from reputable institutions. The stakes are simply too high to do otherwise.”

 

Just because you had a problem ridiculous to bad mouth a drug that increases life possibly in millions of lives.

Sorry but not only me. There are way more other people suffering from it. The medicine is general given when having high cholesterol, a billion dollar industry. Of course they want to keep it up. It was on a documentary her, showing more people having real problems with statines.

If you read about it, you will see it breaks down muscle, Q10 enzym in your body and can have way more other negative effects on your body. When i started no problem, but 1 year later heavy migraine attacks. Thats what my doc also said, migraine, until for me the coin dropped and i related it to taken statines.

Had several other ones, but all same effect. So i stopped, hurrah migraine disappeared. 

Now i take kurkuma, all though the specialist said it wouldnt work my cholesterol dropped.

Better a heart attack then my live spoiled with poison.

You want to eat them? So be it, i will never go there again. 

[herfiehandbag]

I don't know about injecting Testosterone - I once tried injecting Toblerone but it was bloody difficult getting hold of triangular needles!

[faraday]

5 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

I don't know about injecting Testosterone - I once tried injecting Toblerone but it was bloody difficult getting hold of triangular needles!

This is where you went wrong...

Said Toblerone needs to be shoved up one's.....nope, better not!

????

[Mister Fixit]

24 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

I don't know about injecting Testosterone - I once tried injecting Toblerone but it was bloody difficult getting hold of triangular needles!

You should have tried Rolos or a Cadbury's Flake