Thailand’s prisons on COVID-19 red alert

[webfact]

 

The Corrections Department has suspended visits to prisoners and detainees in all prisons, from Monday until May 5th, after over 100 prisoners and prison officials in Narathiwat and Surat Thani provinces were found to be infected with COVID-19.

 

The department has also imposed other measures to prevent the spread of the virus. No prisoners will be allowed to work outside their prisons, there will be no transfers between prisons, no outsiders are allowed entry to prisons and new prisoners will be isolated in separate cells for 14-21 days and be screened at least twice before they are to be moved out of isolation.

 

Regarding prisoners or detainees who must appear in court, alternative measures are being worked out by the Corrections Department.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailands-prisons-on-covid-19-red-alert/

 

 

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[ThailandRyan]

And so it has begun. Let it be saiud that it was only a matter of time and had they been testing all on a regular basis even visitors they might have stopped this from occurring.  But money is to important and must be saved as testing is expensive and Thailand has not even really tested normal folks regularly.  Be safe folks 

[tandor]

3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

And so it has begun. Let it be saiud that it was only a matter of time and had they been testing all on a regular basis even visitors they might have stopped this from occurring.  But money is to important and must be saved as testing is expensive and Thailand has not even really tested normal folks regularly.  Be safe folks 

...all inmates, detainees, remand prisoners, illegal immigrants, itinerant workers, corrupt border officials etc. should be in the first group to be vaccinated...INMHO.

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

The department has also imposed other measures to prevent the spread of the virus.

Always measures after the fact !!!!

Never proactive.

[shackleton]

So we will see a rise in todays Corivirus numbers 

[DefaultName]

I'm surprised that the prisons aren't full of it already.

[Cake Monster]

The ramifications of this outbreak could possibly be the biggest outbreak that Thailand has had thus far.

Consider all the persons that are potentially caught up in this.

Warders, Cooks, Admin, Drivers, Hospital Staff, Dentists Etc Etc Etc, plus the threat  of Prisoners that have been transfered to other Jails possibly spreading the Virus, and also making their Court appearances.

[starky]

Ahhh the old doom and gloom brigade is out in force again . Predicting (sorry hoping) for a major disaster to kick off. 

  Scare porn afficiandos.  

US 63 000 cases today

Brazil 31 000 cases today

Italy 18 000 cases today

 Thailand 100 and the chicken little gang flapping trying to tell us (sorry hoping) that the sky is falling.

 Keep in mind it's the same old faces that were predicting the end of the world when we had the samut sakhon outbreak back in December...  How did that go again? Oh wait its all a big nationwide conspiracy and no testing is being done and all the doctors in Thailand are a part of some massive conspiracy to hide the true numbers ....

Edited April 5, 2021 by starky

[starky]

57 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

The ramifications of this outbreak could possibly be the biggest outbreak that Thailand has had thus far.

Consider all the persons that are potentially caught up in this.

Warders, Cooks, Admin, Drivers, Hospital Staff, Dentists Etc Etc Etc, plus the threat  of Prisoners that have been transfered to other Jails possibly spreading the Virus, and also making their Court appearances.

Regarding prisoners or detainees who must appear in court, alternative measures are being worked out by the Corrections Department.

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, starky said:

Ahhh the old doom and gloom brigade is out in force again . Predicting (sorry hoping) for a major disaster to kick off. 

  Scare porn afficiandos.  

US 63 000 cases today

Brazil 31 000 cases today

Italy 18 000 cases today

 Thailand 100 and the chicken little gang flapping trying to tell us (sorry hoping) that the sky is falling.

 Keep in mind it's the same old faces that were predicting the end of the world when we had the samut sakhon outbreak back in December...  How did that go again? Oh wait its all a big nationwide conspiracy and no testing is being done and all the doctors in Thailand are a part of some massive conspiracy to hide the true numbers ....

Thailand, Starky, is ripe for the fall and explosion. No doom and gloom it is just around the corner with the upcoming Songkran travel.  Look at the latest from Anutin.  Entertainment venues have started another cluster in Bangkok.  But then you don't care because you want to compare here with elsewhere.  Do you live elsewhere or here. Obviously a concern for those of us here.  What happened before is not an indicator of now. No comparison from the December debacle.

Edited April 5, 2021 by ThailandRyan

[Spilornis]

In Malaysia the first outbreaks were in the detention centres on the porous border between Phillipines and Malaysia in Sarawak.

Then into the prisons by way of prisoner transfer and from there on cases exploded.

Would be very surprised if Thailand has avoided the problem.

BTW very few if any deaths in the prisons and most treated on site.In other words many could have it and the public would never know.

 

[sandyf]

9 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

And so it has begun. Let it be saiud that it was only a matter of time and had they been testing all on a regular basis even visitors they might have stopped this from occurring. 

You mean like the UK. When everything is done so  much better elsewhere I wonder why there are any foreigners still in Thailand.

 

There were 118 deaths related to Covid-19 among people in prisons in England and Wales between March 2020 and February 2021, representing a risk of dying more than three times higher than that of people of the same age and sex outside secure environments, the research team at University College London (UCL) found.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/mar/16/covid-death-rate-in-prisons-three-times-higher-than-outside

[Surelynot]

It would seem sensible to let them all out to quarantine at home and, on a pinky promise, return when covid is under control.

[starky]

3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Thailand, Starky, is ripe for the fall and explosion. No doom and gloom it is just around the corner with the upcoming Songkran travel.  Look at the latest from Anutin.  Entertainment venues have started another cluster in Bangkok.  But then you don't care because you want to compare here with elsewhere.  Do you live elsewhere or here. Obviously a concern for those of us here.  What happened before is not an indicator of now. No comparison from the December debacle.

Ripe for the fall? ... Guess what your wrong! Of course I would compare here with elsewhere because Thailand's covid response has been exemplary.  I live here mate and you were one of the most vociferous back in December. This forum is so tiring the vast majority dont want Thailand to succeed, don't endorse their covid response dont want to see them bounce back. Every thread is just a never ending pile on. You can't even say December though it got away from them was a resounding success. I'll just keeping hoping for the best ...

Edited April 5, 2021 by onthedarkside
personal, trolling comments removed

[ThailandRyan]

6 minutes ago, starky said:

I live here mate and you were one of the most vociferous back in December. This forum is so tiring the vast majority dont want Thailand to succeed, don't endorse their covid response dont want to see them bounce back. Every thread is just a never ending pile on. You can't even say December though it got away from them was a resounding success. I'll just keeping hoping for the best you just keep hoping for the worst. Cheers.

  Best part is if you turn out to be correct imagine how happy you'll be ...

I won't be happy at all. Unfortunately I can see the writing on the wall where others can't.  I will be saddened to know they could have corralled and contained it, but gave in for the love of money and trying to help themselves.  We will never know if what we are dealing with is the continuing on of what was here last year as they don't test widely enough until it's apparent they have an issue. Then they only test within their means and do not spread the testing further out to get a true picture.  

Edited April 5, 2021 by ThailandRyan

[Caldera]

Considering how overcrowded and outright filthy Thai prisons are by all accounts, I'm surprised that it took so long for a major outbreak to happen.

 

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, starky said:

Ripe for the fall? Guess what your wrong! I live here mate and you were one of the most vociferous back in December. This forum is so tiring the vast majority dont want Thailand to succeed, don't endorse their covid response dont want to see them bounce back. Every thread is just a never ending pile on. You can't even say December though it got away from them was a resounding success. I'll just keeping hoping for the best...

You've got it wrong. We all want to see Thailand come out of the mess that its in.

 

Thailand had some of the harshest lockdown and border controls the world has seen, it appears to have worked. However it cost the country dearly, not you maybe, not the generals but the millions of people who lost their livelihoods in the tourism industry. Its so bad its officially ranked 4th in the world for the amount of loss. This continues to affect people here with food hand outs still the norm in some provinces. Children unable to attend previous schools because of money shortages, livelihoods decimated.

 

The only way out of this is for Thailand to succeed with its vaccination plan and to carry on containing the virus, the Phuket sandbox is a welcome start for many.

 

What we don't want to see is all that sacrifice go to waste and return to a year ago to go just for the sake of some basic measures that should be in place now and are not. The active promotion of travel over Songkran is reckless and is a ticking bomb of future cases that need not be the case. Thats just one example of what I consider is pure negligence and shows a total ignorance of the consequences it can bring.

 

 

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

The active promotion of travel over Songkran is reckless and is a ticking bomb of future cases that need not be the case. Thats just one example of what I consider is pure negligence and shows a total ignorance of the consequences it can bring.

Spot on

 

[starky]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

You've got it wrong. We all want to see Thailand come out of the mess that its in.

 

Thailand had some of the harshest lockdown and border controls the world has seen, it appears to have worked. However it cost the country dearly, not you maybe, not the generals but the millions of people who lost their livelihoods in the tourism industry. Its so bad its officially ranked 4th in the world for the amount of loss. This continues to affect people here with food hand outs still the norm in some provinces. Children unable to attend previous schools because of money shortages, livelihoods decimated.

 

The only way out of this is for Thailand to succeed with its vaccination plan and to carry on containing the virus, the Phuket sandbox is a welcome start for many.

 

What we don't want to see is all that sacrifice go to waste and return to a year ago to go just for the sake of some basic measures that should be in place now and are not. The active promotion of travel over Songkran is reckless and is a ticking bomb of future cases that need not be the case. Thats just one example of what I consider is pure negligence and shows a total ignorance of the consequences it can bring.

 

 

Off topic as I was talking as is the OP about local infections in prisons and travel over songkran. Im an Aussie mate so don't preach to me about harsh lockdowns, it's been harder for me to get back to my own country when travelling over the past few months then come to Thailand.  And  of course 4 th in the world because this country is so dependent on Tourism.

See it can't "appear" to have worked it either has or it hasn't. If it has then domestic travel should be absolutely no issue, right? Or it hasn't and there's covid everywhere.

And then in the same paragraph you ridicule songkran travel but welcome the sandbox model?

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, starky said:

Off topic as I was talking as is the OP about local infections in prisons and travel over songkran. Im an Aussie mate so don't preach to me about harsh lockdowns  and 4th in the world because this country is so dependent on Tourism. And then in the same paragraph you ridicule songkran travel but welcome the sandbox model?

I'm not preaching to you, I'm telling you the facts here. Of course I welcome sandbox model, it means the vaccination plan has worked at least in Phuket and its safe to open up in 4 months time.

 

That is not the case with Songkran travel happening now with a major spread of covid going on where is the hypocrisy in that?

[starky]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

I'm not preaching to you, I'm telling you the facts here. Of course I welcome sandbox model, it means the vaccination plan has worked at least in Phuket and its safe to open up in 4 months time.

 

That is not the case with Songkran travel happening now with a major spread of covid going on where is the hypocrisy in that?

You contradict yourself on one hand you say that harsh lockdowns appear to have worked then in next breath saying domestic travel is a ticking time bomb. All whilst welcoming untold numbers of people to enter Phuket without undergoing any quarantine at all . Thatll do me.

Ill continue to be optimistic and hopeful for Thailand you continue with what you do. Cheers.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, starky said:

You contradict yourself on one hand you say that harsh lockdowns appear to have worked then in next breath saying domestic travel is a ticking time bomb. All whilst welcoming untold numbers of people to enter Phuket without undergoing any quarantine at all . Thatll do me.

Ill continue to be optimistic and hopeful for Thailand you continue with what you do. Cheers.

 

 

The harsh lockdown appear to have worked last year, Thailand did not see the level of virus that most western countries did? Can you understand that?

 

Now Thailand needs to get back on its feet and prosper not make serious mistakes in its handling of the current spread.

 

I welcome Thailand opening up again when its ready, the first step the government has announced is the Phuket model, to allow only tourists that have been vaccinated and additionally tested negative to enter. This on the condition that Phuket also by that time has had 70% or so of its population vaccinated.

 

[starky]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

The harsh lockdown appear to have worked last year, Thailand did not see the level of virus that most western countries did? Can you understand that?

 

Now Thailand needs to get back on its feet and prosper not make serious mistakes in its handling of the current spread.

 

I welcome Thailand opening up again when its ready, the first step the government has announced is the Phuket model, to allow only tourists that have been vaccinated and additionally tested negative to enter. This on the condition that Phuket also by that time has had 70% or so of its population vaccinated.

 

Apologies if you find that as contradictory but explaining it in any other way would need a blackboard.

 

Now I'll explain it to you. What's contradictory is saying that Thailand has controlled it internally but being vehemently against domestic travel.. I believe like in December that if the Thai government identifies a place it regards as a hotspot it will lockdown or quarantine that area as it sees fit. I believe they have done an awesome job so far and will continue to do so regardless of all the naysayers on here who would like to believe otherwise.

  Better yet let's all come back after songkran and I can celebrate when once again Thailand has done well...

[Bkk Brian]

52 minutes ago, starky said:

 Now I'll explain it to you. What's contradictory is saying that Thailand has controlledit internally but being vehemently against domestic travel.. I believe like in December that if the Thai government identifies a place it regards as a hotspot it will lockdown or quarantine that area as it sees fit. I believe they have done an awesome job so far and will continue to do so regardless of all the naysayers on here who would like to believe otherwise.

  Better yet let's all come back after songkran and I can celebrate when once again Thailand has done well...

 

 

As you're so confident in the awesome decisions and to allow Thailand wide travel at Songkran I'll leave that with you. I hope you turn out to be right, winging it on a hope and prayer does sometimes pay dividends if you are prepared to gamble.

Edited April 5, 2021 by onthedarkside
personal comment removed

[Daithi85]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

You've got it wrong. We all want to see Thailand come out of the mess that its in.

 

Thailand had some of the harshest lockdown and border controls the world has seen, it appears to have worked. However it cost the country dearly, not you maybe, not the generals but the millions of people who lost their livelihoods in the tourism industry. Its so bad its officially ranked 4th in the world for the amount of loss. This continues to affect people here with food hand outs still the norm in some provinces. Children unable to attend previous schools because of money shortages, livelihoods decimated.

 

The only way out of this is for Thailand to succeed with its vaccination plan and to carry on containing the virus, the Phuket sandbox is a welcome start for many.

 

What we don't want to see is all that sacrifice go to waste and return to a year ago to go just for the sake of some basic measures that should be in place now and are not. The active promotion of travel over Songkran is reckless and is a ticking bomb of future cases that need not be the case. Thats just one example of what I consider is pure negligence and shows a total ignorance of the consequences it can bring.

 

 

Definitely no where near the world's harshest lockdown. Not even  close. 

[starky]

38 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

As you're so confident in the awesome decisions and to allow Thailand wide travel at Songkran I'll leave that with you. I hope you turn out to be right, winging it on a hope and prayer does sometimes pay dividends if you are prepared to gamble.

 

Not up to me mate. How do i allow Thailand wide travel?  Up to the Thai government.  You say they've done well I believe they have done well and will continue to do so. That's the fundamental difference.

Edited April 5, 2021 by onthedarkside
personal comments removed

[onthedarkside]

A variety of personal comments and jibes aimed at fellow forum members have been removed.

 

Feel free to disagree with other posters, but keep it civil and respectful.

 

[rcuthbert]

Sardines  in a can. "The Real Bangkok Hilton Bang Kwang Bangkok, Thailand prison..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzZDf3U-Clk

[sandyf]

18 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Unfortunately I can see the writing on the wall where others can't. 

Wrong, you only seem to see what you think you have written on the wall.