Prince Philip

[CharlieH]

28 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Thanks for that I'll ask if the thread can be closed if it continues.

I started it for people to show respect not hijack it.

If people post inappropriate content or try derailing this topic please report it.

 

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

President Biden is a mensch.

 

 

 

Bill Maher is a very specific and unique comedian. He is hardly representative of all U.S. comedians.

Yeah agree Biden seems like a nice guy, I'm English and have met American people over the years of me living here and coming to my village, they were such nice ordinary people.

[Kinnock]

I wonder if Harry feels any guilt that in the last days of Prince Philip's life he had to listen to his attention-seeking grand children bleating about how tough it was being a Royal?

 

[stevenl]

10 hours ago, Kinnock said:

I wonder if Harry feels any guilt that in the last days of Prince Philip's life he had to listen to his attention-seeking grand children bleating about how tough it was being a Royal?

 

No idea, but I do know I like Harry's reaction, much more personal and from the heart than the oblique and generic statement from his brother.

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

No idea, but I do know I like Harry's reaction, much more personal and from the heart than the oblique and generic statement from his brother.

I would say William said what he is expected to say not necessarily what he wanted to say. 

If Harry had a heart where was the care when it came to upsetting his grandfather and grandma his just a pawn in someone else's life.

[stevenl]

5 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

I would say William said what he is expected to say not necessarily what he wanted to say. 

If Harry had a heart where was the care when it came to upsetting his grandfather and grandma his just a pawn in someone else's life.

Agree with your first sentence.

[elliss]

On 4/11/2021 at 2:40 AM, Jingthing said:

 

 

He died as he lived. Peacefully in his sleep."

 

    He  lived peacefully .555 

     

      

[billd766]

On 4/10/2021 at 8:59 PM, Jingthing said:

No. It definitely was racist 

 

[Kwasaki]

I reckon Prince Philip if possible would be turning in his Tomb as they say about what his Granson Harry is broadcasting to the media about his and his wife's mistreatment which and who he condemned as a fact of killing his mother. 

 

It's so sad IMHO the way he is airing personal feelings etc etc when William is conducting himself so responsibily. 

Harry's selfishness seems to have no regard towards his Grandmother the Queen which makes me dislike him more than I'm allowed to say. 

[Kwasaki]

 

Harry is nothing like me. 

 

I was born in 1947 and in school there was my Queen stuff there and I luved her,  I still have the coin from the coronation that was given to me at school.

 

Someone like me having done what I've done in my life the Queen would probably not approve of me but she took on Harry and was kind to him. 

I would take a bullet for my Queen I don't think Harry would.

 

[NoshowJones]

On 4/9/2021 at 6:46 PM, Crossy said:

I have no words ???? ???? 

 

Some of Phil's best, from here https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/15265038.he-said-what-39-of-prince-philips-famous-gaffes-comments-and-clangers/

 

1. "British women can't cook" (in Britain in 1966).

2. "What do you gargle with, pebbles?" (speaking to singer Tom Jones after the 1969 Royal Variety Performance).

3. "I declare this thing open, whatever it is." (on a visit to Canada in 1969).

4. "Everybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaining they are unemployed" (during the 1981 recession).

5. "If it has got four legs and it is not a chair, if it has got two wings and it flies but is not an aeroplane, and if it swims and it is not a submarine, the Cantonese will eat it." (at a 1986 World Wildlife Fund meeting).

6. "It looks like a tart's bedroom." (on seeing plans for the Duke and Duchess of York's house at Sunninghill Park in 1988)

7. "Yak, yak, yak; come on get a move on." (shouted from the deck of Britannia in Belize in 1994 to the Queen who was chatting to her hosts on the quayside).

8. "We didn't have counsellors rushing around every time somebody let off a gun, asking 'Are you all right? Are you sure you don't have a ghastly problem?' You just got on with it." (about the Second World War commenting on modern stress counselling for servicemen in 1995).

9. "How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to get them through the test?" (to a driving instructor in Oban, Scotland, during a 1995 walkabout).

10. "If a cricketer, for instance, suddenly decided to go into a school and batter a lot of people to death with a cricket bat, which he could do very easily, I mean, are you going to ban cricket bats?" (in 1996, amid calls to ban firearms after the Dunblane shooting).

 

11. "Bloody silly fool!" (in 1997, referring to a Cambridge University car park attendant who did not recognise him).

12. "It looks as if it was put in by an Indian." (pointing at an old-fashioned fusebox in a factory near Edinburgh in 1999).

13. "Deaf? If you are near there, no wonder you are deaf." (to young deaf people in Cardiff, in 1999, referring to a school's steel band).

14. "They must be out of their minds." (in the Solomon Islands, in 1982, when he was told that the annual population growth was 5%).

15. "You are a woman, aren't you?"(In Kenya, in 1984, after accepting a small gift from a local woman).

16. "If you stay here much longer, you'll all be slitty-eyed." (to British students in China, during the 1986 state visit).

17. "Your country is one of the most notorious centres of trading in endangered species in the world." (in Thailand, in 1991, after accepting a conservation award).

18. "Oh no, I might catch some ghastly disease." (in Australia, in 1992, when asked to stroke a Koala bear).

19. "You can't have been here that long - you haven't got a pot belly." (to a Briton in Budapest, Hungary, in 1993).

20. "Aren't most of you descended from pirates?" (to a wealthy islander in the Cayman Islands in 1994).

He certainly was not the nicest of people.

[OJAS]

On 5/22/2021 at 4:07 PM, Kwasaki said:

Harry's selfishness seems to have no regard towards his Grandmother the Queen which makes me dislike him more than I'm allowed to say. 

 

A trait which, I suspect, he has inherited from his scheming, manipulative wife. Certainly I don't recall him behaving particularly selfishly before she came into his life in 2016. There can, I think, be little doubt that she is the one wearing the trousers in that particular marriage!

[OJAS]

On 5/27/2021 at 3:20 PM, possum1931 said:

He certainly was not the nicest of people.

 

Well, he was certainly a darn sight nicer than Megan Markle can ever be IMHO!

[CharlieH]

Post with personal remark removed.

[fishtank]

21 minutes ago, OJAS said:

 

Well, he was certainly a darn sight nicer than Megan Markle can ever be IMHO!

Why? Don't ever remember her shooting wildlife. and then pretending to be a conservationist.

[Patong2021]

On 5/27/2021 at 4:20 AM, possum1931 said:

He certainly was not the nicest of people.

That is your perspective based upon snippets of what you have seen in media.   He was a self made man who emerged from multiple hardships that would leave most men curled up in a fetal crying.

-Born on a  dining room table 

-Evacuated in a fruit box as a destitute refugee

-Surviving on handouts from other relatives

-Parents who were separated and not able to providing a family unit

-Sent away to  a care facility/boarding school at a young age

- Separated from his mother

- Absent father

- Cut off from siblings because of their marriages

-Subject to discrimination because of his background and heritage

 

Most kids would grow up angry violent and cruel. he did not. Instead of a life of anti social behavior typical of people of his background, he made a life for himself in the Royal Navy and conducted himself with courage and dignity.  

This is a man who went through terrible hardship and personal pain, so it should not be a surprise when he had a more realistic approach to life and its problems. Yes, his sense of humor was offensive to some, but those are the jokes and comments of his generation.  

 

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, OJAS said:

 

A trait which, I suspect, he has inherited from his scheming, manipulative wife. Certainly I don't recall him behaving particularly selfishly before she came into his life in 2016. There can, I think, be little doubt that she is the one wearing the trousers in that particular marriage!

I wonder how long the marriage will last.

[OJAS]

2 hours ago, fishtank said:

Why? Don't ever remember her shooting wildlife. and then pretending to be a conservationist.

But I can recall her swanning around in private jets and then pretending to be an environmentalist.

[OJAS]

37 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

I wonder how long the marriage will last.

 

Any betting that it will be as long as his parents'?

[NoshowJones]

On 5/27/2021 at 3:20 PM, possum1931 said:

He certainly was not the nicest of people.

He took part in blood "sports". Shooting wild life just for the fun of it. I stand to be corrected here, but was he not also one of the foxhunting brigade? That in itself would put me off anyone, no matter who they are.

[tifino]

4 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

He took part in blood "sports". Shooting wild life just for the fun of it. I stand to be corrected here, but was he not also one of the foxhunting brigade? That in itself would put me off anyone, no matter who they are.

especially as that is Not just an 'English' elite thing...

  in the US it is popular, as 'Fox Chasing'  

[CharlieH]

5 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

He took part in blood "sports". Shooting wild life just for the fun of it. I stand to be corrected here, but was he not also one of the foxhunting brigade? That in itself would put me off anyone, no matter who they are.

Attitudes are different in later years, he was a man of his time and of his generation.

People would go "Hunting" for many reasons and nothing to do with the actual Fox !

[NoshowJones]

1 minute ago, CharlieH said:

Attitudes are different in later years, he was a man of his time and of his generation.

People would go "Hunting" for many reasons and nothing to do with the actual Fox !

But surely in any years, how can anyone want to enjoy watching a screaming fox getting torn to pieces by a bunch of dogs? But yes,  you have got it spot on in your last sentence.

[tifino]

13 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Attitudes are different in later years, he was a man of his time and of his generation.

People would go "Hunting" for many reasons and nothing to do with the actual Fox !

 

sorta like Hash House Harriers - an an unarmed generic sort of way

[CharlieH]

10 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

But surely in any years, how can anyone want to enjoy watching a screaming fox getting torn to pieces by a bunch of dogs? But yes,  you have got it spot on in your last sentence.

You are making assumptions.

A Fox is in fact very rarely caught. The team actually in many instances protect the Fox and drag a carcass behind a horse for the dogs to follow AWAY from where real Fox lairs may actually be.

 

Have you ever actually seen what you describe ? Other than in anti hunt media ? I'll lay a bet you havnt ?

[NoshowJones]

1 minute ago, CharlieH said:

You are making assumptions.

A Fox is in fact very rarely caught. The team actually in many instances protect the Fox and drag a carcass behind a horse for the dogs to follow AWAY from where real Fo lairs may be.

 

Have you ever actually seen what you describe ? Other than in anti hunt media ? I'll lay a bet you havnt ?

No I haven't, I am only going by what I've read, I have just always hated cruelty of any sort whether it involves animals or people.

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, possum1931 said:

He took part in blood "sports". Shooting wild life just for the fun of it. I stand to be corrected here, but was he not also one of the foxhunting brigade? That in itself would put me off anyone, no matter who they are.

You would be put off my friend who was a chicken and sheep farmer. 

I use to shoot on his farm and shoot foxes that had "mange" I think that's what it's called,  you couldn't inject them like dogs. 

[NoshowJones]

3 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

You would be put off my friend who was a chicken and sheep farmer. 

I use to shoot on his farm and shoot foxes that had "mange" I think that's what it's called,  you couldn't inject them like dogs. 

Nothing wrong with shooting vermin who are a danger  to the chickens and sheep. But shooting birds out of the air just for enjoyment is not on.

[Kwasaki]

6 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

Nothing wrong with shooting vermin who are a danger  to the chickens and sheep. But shooting birds out of the air just for enjoyment is not on.

I can understand and met people who were against me and other rough shooting.

The thing is a farmer protect his sheep who are in lamb some can mis-carry when under threat from foxes and dogs on the loose. 

Free range chicken farming is hard work.

The seeded fields can be decemated by pigeons so we shot the pigeons and left them for the foxes in areas for them it worked out good for years. 

Still got and never understood the stupid people though that let there dogs run free chasing sheep and we're laughing.

We warned those owners there dogs would be shot if they did it again. 

[bermondburi]

Why would anyone feel sad when they don't know him.