Thailand on Thursday reports 1,911 new coronavirus cases, 18 new deaths

[rabas]

1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Such as it has been from the start because only testing numbers give us a true indication of the situation.

Some here understandably don't know how epidemiologists and medical professionals run testing. Thailand conducts many kinds of testing depending on what they want to know. This all runs concurrently. The total number of tests must be well over 100,000 by now but reported totals lag by a week or more.

 

Here is a recent graph. By April 24 it hit ~70000/day. Note the graph is per 1000 people. Also note testing divided by the entire population does not show what is happening in hot spots like Bangkok.

 

 

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing

Edited May 6, 2021 by rabas

[anchadian]

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailand-removed-from-new-york-times-list-of-countries-acquiring-pfizer-vaccines/

 

Thailand removed from New York Times’ list of countries acquiring Pfizer vaccines

 

After recent unconfirmed reports that Thailand had already acquired COVID-19 vaccines from Pfizer were denied, The New York Times has removed Thailand from its infographic listing the countries acquiring the vaccines from the company.

Moderator's note - Thailand's government has said it is continuing to try to negotiate an agreement, and expects to reach one, to acquire Pfizer vaccines for the country.

 

Edited May 6, 2021 by onthedarkside
edited for clarity/ccontext

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

Officials Say Foreigners in Thailand Will Get Vaccine Jabs…Someday

 

BANGKOK — Foreigners living on Thai soil will be eligible to receive COVID-19 vaccines, a health official said Thursday, though details of which are yet to be revealed.

 

Opas Karnkawinpong, director of the Department of Disease Control, said everyone living in Thailand, both Thai and foreign, are included in the government’s ambitious plan to inoculate at least 70 percent of the population by the end of the year. However, he did not provide a time frame or other details on how a foreign national can register for the jabs.

 

“Everyone living in Thailand, whether Thai or foreigner, will get the vaccine if they consent to it,” he said.

...

“No one is safe, until everyone is safe,” Opas said in English.

 

(more)

 

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2021/05/06/officials-say-foreigners-in-thailand-will-get-vaccine-jabs-someday/

 

 

Edited May 6, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

"The National Office of Buddhism will release a list of temples which are equipped to cremate those who die of COVID-19.

 

The office’s Director, Narong Song-arom, said the list is being prepared in response to the growing number of complaints about temples refusing to accept the bodies of COVID-19 victims, citing the lack of a closed-system crematoria, which are designed to contain the cremation chamber's exhaust gases.

...

Mr. Narong said, once a death from COVID-19 has occurred, families must report it to their local public health office immediately. After that, the health office will contact the National Office of Buddhism's provincial branch, which will then find temples that are capable of safely carrying out the cremation.

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157995139142050

 

[Fex Bluse]

Flat numbers for like 2 weeks. If anyone doubts that this is highly unlikely, I have an investment deal you might be interested in.

 

They are either at testing capacity or incompetent or covering up the extent of the outbreak. Likely a little of all three.

 

There is NO WAY an outbreak is flat like this. The math makes no sense at all.

[rabas]

40 minutes ago, sapson said:

Im probably missing some major points here but if they are testing around 10,000 a day or less a figure quoted on here by someone who had done his research, that is such a miniscule amount in relation to a 70 million population.

 

If roughly 1500 test positive a day out of that 10,000 then we have a horrendous positive test percentage and if they managed to regularly  test 10k a week in each province what would the true situation be..........I guess they prefer not to have that information as per the policy of the last year and the charade of a miraculously virtually covid free Thailand!

Please read my above post. Standard  protocol calls for widespread screening to discover outbreaks, done in Thialand. Then testing is adjusted to maintain a high level of tests/positive case. Or a low percentage of positives/test.  Same same.

 

By studying the below graph can you see which country excels at that? Without Thai man bad glasses it is clearly Thailand.

 

 

 

Edited May 6, 2021 by rabas

[anchadian]

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/senior-virologist-says-thailan

 

Senior virologist says Thailand needs all makes of vaccine to be administered rapidly

[Fex Bluse]

5 minutes ago, rabas said:

Please read my above post. Standard  protocol calls for widespread screening to discover outbreaks, done in Thialand. Then testing is adjusted to maintain a high level of tests/positive case. Or a low percentage of positives/test.  Same same.

 

By studying the below graph can you see which country excels at that? Without Thai man bad glasses it is clearly Thailand.

 

 

 

 

I can show you a graph of virtually anything. Does not mean it's accurate or created in good faith. Surely you are aware that people do lie. Even Thais. And, people are incompetent. If you'd like examples of times graphs were ENTIRELY and CATASTROPHICALLY incorrect, I can furnish a few. ????

Edited May 6, 2021 by Fex Bluse

[Danderman123]

9 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said:

Flat numbers for like 2 weeks. If anyone doubts that this is highly unlikely, I have an investment deal you might be interested in.

 

They are either at testing capacity or incompetent or covering up the extent of the outbreak. Likely a little of all three.

 

There is NO WAY an outbreak is flat like this. The math makes no sense at all.

I dunno,  Dubai has been in the same range for months. 

 

The vast majority of new cases in Thailand come from hospital walk-ins and close contacts of the infected. Those numbers are flatlining. 

 

Do you think there is some large number of new cases that are being hidden? Do you think that there is some large effort to make the published numbers consistent, local reports of infections, hospital occupancy, testing, everything that is reported, do you think all of those numbers are falsified? 

 

Or, is it possible that Thailand is slowly containing the outbreak? 

 

Which is the more reasonable explanation? 

[meltonpie]

21 minutes ago, rabas said:

Some here understandably don't know how epidemiologists and medical professionals run testing. Thailand conducts many kinds of testing depending on what they want to know. This all runs concurrently. The total number of tests must be well over 100,000 by now but reported totals lag by a week or more.

 

Here is a recent graph. By April 24 it hit ~70000/day. Note the graph is per 1000 people. Also note testing divided by the entire population does not show what is happening in hot spots like Bangkok.

 

 

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing

 

So help me out please.

What does the the total number of laboratory test in this data released daily refer to?

 

[Bkk Brian]

28 minutes ago, rabas said:

Some here understandably don't know how epidemiologists and medical professionals run testing. Thailand conducts many kinds of testing depending on what they want to know. This all runs concurrently. The total number of tests must be well over 100,000 by now but reported totals lag by a week or more.

 

Here is a recent graph. By April 24 it hit ~70000/day. Note the graph is per 1000 people. Also note testing divided by the entire population does not show what is happening in hot spots like Bangkok.

 

 

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing

While thats a correct indication on the data of the total tests Thailand carries out, the source for their data is the raw data base which includes repeat tests., if you follow the link from where they get their source it takes you to that. https://service.dmsc.moph.go.th/labscovid19/

 

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing#thailand

 

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Daily list of new COVID cases reported by province. If a province is not listed below, that means it did not have any official COVID cases reported for the day:

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157997310657050

 

[rabas]

15 minutes ago, meltonpie said:

 

So help me out please.

What does the the total number of laboratory test in this data released daily refer to?

 

These are numbers from one surveillance program.  To make conclusions you need data from all the various screening and testing programs. 

 

 

 

Edited May 6, 2021 by rabas

[Bkk Brian]

20 minutes ago, meltonpie said:

 

So help me out please.

What does the the total number of laboratory test in this data released daily refer to?

 

They are the PUI (person under investigation) tests in other words the per person tests and they are the important ones, as highlighted in the github suppository. The raw data is the total amount of repeat tests. 

https://djay.github.io/covidthailand/

 

Anyone who waits for a test result is classified as a PUI if its as a result of getting a test for covid from them suspecting they may have it

 

 

Edited May 6, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[anchadian]

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40000592

 

Published : May 06, 2021

By : THE NATION

 

BMA inoculates 3,000 Klong Toei residents in bid to control cluster

 

Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) dispatched two mobile vaccination units to Tesco Lotus Rama IV and Wat Klong Toei School on Tuesday after 304 people residing in or near Klong Toei slums tested positive for Covid-19 recently.

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

From a Thai language Facebook post from the government's COVID Information account, sounds like there are plans in the works to develop a COVID field hospital at the enormous IMPACT Muang Thong Thani commplex in Nonthaburi:

 

English translation:

 

"Acknowledge the action of the field hospital setting at Impact Challenger Muang Thong Thani, province. Nonthaburi will be a field hospital to support yellow covids, patients with symptoms, but not severe and tired, fast breathing."

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/319865192965145

 

During the daily English language COVID news briefing earlier today, a government spokeswoman said they are looking as possibly needing an additional 1,300+ new field hospital beds per week, based on the expanded COVID testing that's begun in Khlong Toei and other suspected COVID cluster areas around Bangkok.

 

The spokeswoman said the current COVID testing rate of residents in the Khlong Toei and Pathum Wan areas of Bangkok is about 26,850 people per week. The 1,300+ new beds per week estimate is based on the projection that perhaps five percent of those tested will come back as COVID positive.

 

Edited May 6, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[sungod]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Government spokeswoman Pensom Lertsithichai full statement appearing to reiterate that foreign residents will be included in the Thai government's second phase COVID vaccinations program during the second half of 2021

 

Who bets that will change by tea time ????

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

7 minutes ago, sungod said:

 

Who bets that will change by tea time ????

 

Can't ever rule out that possibility here...

 

But, I believe the announcement they made today.... which is consistent with what the government has been saying all along. The comments by one spokesman, as reported in the Bangkok Post the other day, were portrayed as an entirely different message.... But that message, whether reported correctly or not, was basically disavowed by the government today.  So they're back to what they've been saying all along..that foreigners will be included in the vaccinations program.

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

35 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The vast majority of new cases in Thailand come from hospital walk-ins and close contacts of the infected. Those numbers are flatlining. 

 

Do you think there is some large number of new cases that are being hidden? Do you think that there is some large effort to make the published numbers consistent, local reports of infections, hospital occupancy, testing, everything that is reported, do you think all of those numbers are falsified? 

There is a very good possibility these numbers are being suppressed, not by design but by default due to many hospital stopping testing, others limiting tests to a small number per day, labs stopping testing etc, these problems have all been highlighted in the media. 

[sapson]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Nobody says that only 10,000 tests are performed in Thailand per day. 

 

Maybe the guy who provided the figures on here a few days back got it wrong?

 

So as you are quite sure its wrong, perhaps you could provide a link to the daily figures of testing nationwide for the last few days, weeks or year!

 

This would provide a clearer picture of the covid situation and put the daily positives figures into perspective.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Wrap-up of today's various COVID statistics in English:

 

Case fatality rate for Thailand now stands at 0.44 percent, 336 deaths out of 76,811 total official COVID cases:

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/OICDDC/posts/3928959570557940

[meltonpie]

29 minutes ago, rabas said:

These are numbers from one surveillance program.  To make conclusions you need data from all the various screening and testing programs. 

 

 

 

Thanks.

So where do I find that data?

Is it here?

https://service.dmsc.moph.go.th/labscovid19/

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

"A shipment of one million doses of Sinovac vaccine arrived in Thailand Thursday morning.

 

The shipment, which arrived at Suvarnabhumi Airport, was transported in envirotainers in which the temperature was maintained at between 2 and 8 degrees Celsius.

 

As of Thursday, the country received 3.5 million doses of Sinovac vaccine imported from China, and on May 14, another 500,000 doses will arrive in Thailand."

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157997413992050

 

 

Vaccines Status in Thailand right now:

 

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, meltonpie said:

Thanks.

So where do I find that data?

Is it here?

https://service.dmsc.moph.go.th/labscovid19/

The screenshot you posted before is the correct one for getting the data of the tests carried out per person, those are the relevant ones. The link you've posted now takes you to the raw data file of all tests across all categories including all the repeated tests, this is not filtered so its impossible to know how many actual people were tested, only the amount of tests.

 

Opening the excel file in the raw data takes you to where they state it includes repeat tests, so useless for us.

 

Note
1. cannot specify date	There are 11 laboratories cannot provide the information per day from starting date to the 3th of April, 2020.
2. Pos	Total number of SARS-CoV-2 detected results from both confirm  and repeat testing
3. Total	Total number of test

 

However what none of us have is the number of rapid test reagents that are used in Thailand and we do know they are using them, this would add to the tests per day they do but without that data we just do not know how many.

[RichardColeman]

4 hours ago, jonclark said:

Without being cynical does is it possible that the number of tests is also flat lining as well? 

Way I'd look at it is  UK doing something like 400,000 tests a day and finding the same amount of infections as Thailand doing limited 20,000  a day. If Thailand flatlines its due to that i think - it has no room for high spikes above a maximum.

 

 

[AndyFoxy]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Which is the more reasonable explanation? 

 

That they are covering up.

[Cake Monster]

5 hours ago, jonclark said:

This obviously is great news. Does anyone have any update in the number of serious cases / ventilators - These two data sets have not followed the flat lining pattern seen recently and have steadily increased. 

 

Without being cynical does is it possible that the number of tests is also flat lining as well? 

I dont think you are being cynical at all.

The testing has been flat lined somewhere between 15,000 - 20,000 tests per Day, with an assumed positivity rate of between 7 - 9 % ( Ish figures only )

Reasons

Plenty. Not enough test kits, or staff to use them. Laboratories not able to cope with the volume, or just plain stupid and incompetent

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

 

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, meltonpie said:

 

So help me out please.

What does the the total number of laboratory test in this data released daily refer to?

 

There are several mislabeled fields, and some wrong data.

 

As mentioned before, the "PUI" criteria field is the number of total tests, but it's not just for hospital walk-ins.

 

And the "active case finding" field has not been updated in months.

[Rhacsyn]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

I dunno,  Dubai has been in the same range for months. 

 

The vast majority of new cases in Thailand come from hospital walk-ins and close contacts of the infected. Those numbers are flatlining. 

 

Do you think there is some large number of new cases that are being hidden? Do you think that there is some large effort to make the published numbers consistent, local reports of infections, hospital occupancy, testing, everything that is reported, do you think all of those numbers are falsified? 

 

Or, is it possible that Thailand is slowly containing the outbreak? 

 

Which is the more reasonable explanation? 

 

UAE, which includes Dubai, has reported circa 2,000 new cases a day for over two months, even with mass testing and a decent vaccination programme. There, the belief is that the outbreak is now under control. Following on from above post, and accepting the statistical and potential health benefits of more testing in Thailand, I, for one, would like to believe that it is under control here too. I really hope so......