anchadian Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Three more Covid clusters found in Bangkok Bangkok found three more clusters of Covid-19 infections in the past 24 hours, the Center for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) said on Friday. “The new clusters are the Minburi Market in Thung Khru, a private company in Bang Khae and an embassy in Watthana,” Dr Apisamai Srirangsan, CCSAs’ deputy spokeswoman. The number of cases that were found at the market, the company and the embassy were 36, 89 and five respectively. Apisamai did not say which embassy it was. More: https://www.thaienquirer.com/28018/three-more-covid-clusters-found-in-bangkok/ 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 6 hours ago, darksidedog said: It seems the approach for prisoners is the herd immunity one i.e. letting them all catch it. As a percentage of population these figures are astronomical. If they had any real plan to contain it in there, the numbers should have been reducing, not going through the roof. Must be very scary times for prisoners. This was always going to be the plan. prisoners are considered to be a burden upon the Nation, and therefore will not receive the proper Care or Medical attention that is required to quell the outbreaks in the Prisons. Prisoners are also locked away from Society, so therefore pose no threat of being carriers or spreaders of the Virus I hope that the Death rates in the Prisons are kept low, and published daily, as these are people who are really in harms way. 4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: You nailed it exactly. Locked down and being fed food and getting medical treatment as needed. Out of sight out of mind. On another tack. The Immigrant Labour locked inside the Factory of Cal Comp, are saying they have very little Electric, and that the Food being given to them is not what they eat, and want to cook their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Emdog said: Maybe give them the antibody test: may have already had Covid so now have natural immunity? My point is that some people may have innate immunity. It would be good to identify them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Excel said: And look how that turned out !! Yep. It could have gone like India, but the growth in new infections tailed off, primarily due to Thailand’s policy of isolating anyone who tests positive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Excel said: Which statistical dream world are you living in ? In Real Life, the number of new infections per day peaked at about 2800 last month (outside of the prisons), and has not exceeded that by 10% since then. New infections move in a narrow band in a random walk, and have for the last month. You can try to gaslight people about an imminent catastrophe but not many will believe you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: My point is that some people may have innate immunity. It would be good to identify them. Innate immunity? Please show just 1, that's right just 1 piece of evidence that supports this. If you can't then mate you've either lost the plot or you're just trolling. Which one is it? 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: Yes, the number of new infections has remained fairly stable for the last month. So much so that some people complain about it. You must be looking at the wrong country.... even a 7 day moving average shows it trending up. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: In Real Life, the number of new infections per day peaked at about 2800 last month (outside of the prisons), and has not exceeded that by 10% since then. New infections move in a narrow band in a random walk, and have for the last month. Sorry thats just your real life, not anybody else's. Edited May 28, 2021 by Bkk Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieinThaiJim Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: What can be done to change the way we see Covid 19 statistics recorded day in, day out. Personally I prefer it this way, it's so uplifting and sends positivity. ???? The CCSA should stop patting themselves on the back. Just because more people recover than get the disease in one day is totally misleading! Between the CCSA and the BMA they have mismanaged the whole situation let alone the DPM Anutin who publically encouraged people to travel for Songkran! Now the focus is on vaccinations however there seems to be little doubt there is not enough to go round. So now we are between a hard place and infection! <Deleted> if your a farang hope and pray there is enough Moderna imported by private hospitals and queue up and pay. Edited May 28, 2021 by blackcab One sentence referring to the Monarchy deleted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, Cake Monster said: This was always going to be the plan. prisoners are considered to be a burden upon the Nation, and therefore will not receive the proper Care or Medical attention that is required to quell the outbreaks in the Prisons. Prisoners are also locked away from Society, so therefore pose no threat of being carriers or spreaders of the Virus I hope that the Death rates in the Prisons are kept low, and published daily, as these are people who are really in harms way. On another tack. The Immigrant Labour locked inside the Factory of Cal Comp, are saying they have very little Electric, and that the Food being given to them is not what they eat, and want to cook their own. Agreed and do you remember Taweesilp Visanuyothin CCSA spokesman saying in Feb the tail end of the last outbreak and referring to the migrants locked in camps: "They were waiting for these well workers to develop herd immunity, because they might get mild levels of infection from their ill colleagues" This is Thailand's disease control measures that some laud. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Excel Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: In Real Life, the number of new infections per day peaked at about 2800 last month (outside of the prisons), and has not exceeded that by 10% since then. New infections move in a narrow band in a random walk, and have for the last month. You can try to gaslight people about an imminent catastrophe but not many will believe you. Prisoners are still part of the population yet you choose to ignore them because it makes your assumptions a total nonsense. So who else should we ignore. The people who died over 60 because they would have died anyway at sometime, or perhaps should we ignore the migrant workers in Thailand because they are not Thai ? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 What's going on with the government's supposed COVID vaccine registration program for foreign nationals in Bangkok remains pretty much a mystery, with silence from both the government and the two designated vaccination centers throughout this week. One of the two designated centers, Vimut Hospital, posted online last Saturday inviting pre-registrations for the official government program that's supposed to start June 7. But by Wednesday, the hospital shut down its online pre-registrations system, and hasn't said if or when those who managed to pre-register will get their vaccines. The other designated center in Bangkok, the Bangrak Vaccination and Health Center run by the Ministry of Public Health, has not responded to public inquiries and has not posted any information at all online on its newly created Facebook page -- although the site reportedly is operating and dispensing vaccinations to Chinese nationals with vaccines donated by the Chinese government. Vimut Hospital, for its part, originally told those pre-registering that they should expect an SMS message within four or five days telling them about their scheduling. But as of Friday, a week after their pre-registration system opened briefly, comments on their Facebook page suggest pretty much no one thus far has received any scheduling messages from the hospital. Instead, Vimut Hospital during the week posted the following update to their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/vimuthospital/posts/181697367196166 As of Friday, it remained unclear what if anything either of the two designated vaccination locations for foreign nationals will be doing come the June 7 official start of the government's supposed vaccination program for foreign nationals, and whether Vimut Hospital has any plans to reopen registrations at any point. On Friday, all phone calls to Vimut Hospital went to recorded voicemail messages. Elsewhere, for example, despite the government telling foreign nationals they could register for the government's vaccine program at the local hospital where they have medical records, a representative at Bumrungrad Hospital in Bangkok said they have yet to receive any guidance on if/how the hospital will participate in the government vaccine registration program for foreign nationals. Separately, Bumrungrad has been keeping an informal contacts list of patients interesting in receiving a Moderna or Pfizer vaccine that might ultimately become available through Thailand's Private Hospitals Association. But as of Friday, the hospital said it also had no update or details on that prospect either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 I really think it's time to start ignoring someone. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 Sinopharm jab to cost max 1000 baht, Chulabhorn Royal Academy says. The first 1 million are expected in June. https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1398202885171679233 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sametboy2019 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 6 hours ago, Susco said: Is herd immunity another word for "don't give a toss"? Anyway, from what I have read over the past 18 months, my understanding is that herd immunity doesn't exist. There are reports of people getting infected twice, even getting infected after vaccination, so what resembles herd immunity? Vaccinations do not stop you catching it just stops you getting very sick or dying. Maybe catching it gives you a better chance of surviving if you are reinfected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) This is just so far.................. "More than 22,000 inmates were infected with covid in the third wave. Of that, more than 6,400 have recovered while 8 have died from the infection" https://twitter.com/erich_parpart/status/1398201189255192578 Edited May 28, 2021 by Bkk Brian 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: This is just so far.................. "More than 22,000 inmates were infected with covid in the third wave. Of that, more than 6,400 have recovered while 8 have died from the infection" https://twitter.com/erich_parpart/status/1398201189255192578 I might be wrong but these seem to be figures we are not seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 An off topic post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Macrohistory Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: In Real Life, the number of new infections per day peaked at about 2800 last month (outside of the prisons), and has not exceeded that by 10% since then. New infections move in a narrow band in a random walk, and have for the last month. You can try to gaslight people about an imminent catastrophe but not many will believe you. The catastrophe is unfolding as we speak. A slow-motion catastrophe is still a catastrophe. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riparian Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 4 hours ago, anchadian said: You must fly direct to Phuket. Attached are some examples of airlines doing direct flights. Please note, all flights are subject to change or cancellation. There was talk originally of being able to fly Bangkok and then being escorted to Phuket. But no confirmation of this yet https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1398146769863602177 For those wishing to travel from Tel Aviv there is 1 flight / week (except Friday) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Excel said: Prisoners are still part of the population yet you choose to ignore them because it makes your assumptions a total nonsense. So who else should we ignore. The people who died over 60 because they would have died anyway at sometime, or perhaps should we ignore the migrant workers in Thailand because they are not Thai ? Thousands of those infected inmates are also on remand, waiting trial with many innocent among them languishing away in the hell holes with covid as an added nightmare. Edited May 28, 2021 by Bkk Brian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Hagler Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 hour ago, dinsdale said: Innate immunity? Please show just 1, that's right just 1 piece of evidence that supports this. If you can't then mate you've either lost the plot or you're just trolling. Which one is it? The guy is just trolling...it’s a wind up, 100%. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realfunster Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 4 hours ago, anchadian said: Today there are 34 deaths in #Thailand: 18 males and 16 females Median age is 69 (33-92 years) Most deaths in Bangkok (24), Samut Prakan (3), Nakhon Si Thammarat (2), plus 5 provinces with one each. 18 infected from family 5 had no underlying diseases https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1398152830259580933 Why do they present the median age of victims ? Would seem a less than helpful statistical analysis. What's wrong with a simple average ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dogmatix Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 Someone should go on trial in the International Criminal Court in the Hague for crimes against humanity for getting all those prisioners infected. They don't derserve biological torture as well as incarceration. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril sneer Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 7 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: What can be done to change the way we see Covid 19 statistics recorded day in, day out. Personally I prefer it this way, it's so uplifting and sends positivity. ???? people are less interested in positive news such articles get less clicks, therefore less money for the media outlets 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey11 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Danderman123 said: In Real Life, the number of new infections per day peaked at about 2800 last month (outside of the prisons), and has not exceeded that by 10% since then. New infections move in a narrow band in a random walk, and have for the last month. You can try to gaslight people about an imminent catastrophe but not many will believe you. So I ask you a question if you can answer it. How many new people are been tested everyday. Is it 10000, 20000, 30000? This is crucial to understanding the situation. If I test 10000 and get 3000 positives, that is a high rate. If I test 50000 people and get 3000, gives a much lower rate. And I don't mean number of tests, number of new people. Edited May 28, 2021 by Petey11 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 9 hours ago, darksidedog said: It seems the approach for prisoners is the herd immunity one i.e. letting them all catch it. As a percentage of population these figures are astronomical. If they had any real plan to contain it in there, the numbers should have been reducing, not going through the roof. Must be very scary times for prisoners. I wonder if they are carrying out mass testing in the military. Conditions there are not as bad as in prisons but soldiers also live and work in cross proximity to each other. I am sure they would not want anyone to know, in case an enemy decided to invade knowing the defenders were incapacitated by pestilence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Various posts have been moved to the Support Forum. If you wish to ignore another member please do so, but do not repeatedly post about doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Petey11 said: So I ask you a question if you can answer it. How many new people are been tested everyday. Is it 10000, 20000, 30000? This is crucial to understanding the situation. If I test 10000 and get 3000 positives, that is a high rate. If I test 50000 people and get 3000, gives a much lower rate. And I don't mean number of tests, number of new people. This is the very question I was asking earlier. In last 24 hours Victoria (au) did 47,500 tests. 4 positives. That's not important. What is important is that the # of tests is accurate and disclosed. Don't feel same way about Test numbers here in Thailand. Edited May 28, 2021 by DrJack54 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrobay Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Danderman123 said: My point is that some people may have innate immunity. It would be good to identify them. There is natural cellular T cell immunity in some individuals. Scroll down to: CD8+T cell response in covid 19, ' A higher proportion of CD8+Tcell responses was observed in patients who only developed mild disease. Also see section on those who have cross immunity from circulating common cold viruses. https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/what-is-the-role-of-t-cells-in-covid-19-infection-why-immunity-is-about-more-than-antibodies/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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