Royal academy seeks 1 million vaccines as Thailand approves Sinopharm

[snoop1130]

FILE PHOTO: A signage of Sinopharm is seen at the 2020 China International Fair for Trade in Services (CIFTIS), following the COVID-19 outbreak, in Beijing, China September 5, 2020. REUTERS/Tingshu Wang/File Photo

 

BANGKOK (Reuters) - A royal academy chaired by Princess Chulabhorn, the youngest sibling of Thailand's king, on Friday said it would import 1 million doses of Sinopharm's COVID-19 vaccine next month, after the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) authorised its use.

 

"We want to help plug in the gaps for business, schools, so they can move forward," Nithi Mahanonda, secretary-general of the Chulabhorn Royal Academy told a news briefing.

 

Earlier this week, the academy announced it would import "alternative vaccines" to supplement the government campaign.

 

The government's chaotic and widely criticised mass vaccinations programme is due to start next month, using mainly AstraZeneca vaccines made locally by Siam Bioscience, a company owned by King Maha Vajiralongkorn.

 

The government says it will have 6 million AstraZenaca doses and 3 million Sinovac doses available in June.

 

The FDA on Friday approved the Sinopharm coronavirus vaccine for emergency use, making it the fifth authorised by Thailand after AstraZenaca, Sinovac's CoronaVac, Johnson & Johnson's Janssen and Moderna.

 

The royal academy procurement comes after Thailand was hit by its worst COVID-19 outbreak so far, with over 80% of its 144,976 cases and 954 deaths occurring in the past two months, driven by the highly transmissible B.1.1.7 variant first detected in Britain.

 

Just a over 1 million of Thailand's more than 66 million people are fully vaccinated.

 

The announcement in the official Royal Gazette susprised some members of the government, which had until now insisted on being the sole importer of COVID-19 vaccines.

 

Nithi said other organisations would be able to buy from the academy's 1 million Sinopharm doses, adding that it did not seek profit.

 

The Federation of Thai Industries and the energy firm PTT Group Pcl have shown interest as potential buyers and the academy would continue to negotiate for more doses after June based on demand, Nithi said.

 

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[sammieuk1]

A ringing endorsement for the local AZ production then ???? 

[bdenner]

Happy days, ask the Seychelles what they think about this "witch doctors" brew!!!

[mtls2005]

6 minutes ago, bdenner said:

Happy days, ask the Seychelles what they think about this "witch doctors" brew!!!

 

 

Maybe it's an experiment/research, to test for efficacy and side-effects.

 

Seems a bit slap-dash, but with no real plan or vaccines, why not roll the dice.

 

 

[gearbox]

20 minutes ago, bdenner said:

Happy days, ask the Seychelles what they think about this "witch doctors" brew!!!

Ask the Seychelles about what....there is nothing clear yet there.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/seychelles-e2-80-99s-covid-mysteries-pit-anti-vaxxers-against-scientists/ar-AAKqFfe

 

"Still, more answers are needed. The government hasn’t disclosed what vaccine was administered in the breakthrough cases that make up a third of the total count. No agency has done any genomic sequencing to determine which variant is dominant on the islands, though the one first identified in South Africa, B.1.351, was detected in Seychelles in February."

 

57% Sinopharm, 43% AstraZeneca...the South African variant in circulation. The results will be interesting.

 

However what is more important is this:

 

"What’s also apparent, so far, is that though there’s been a surge in cases in Seychelles, very few people are getting seriously ill. “We have only a few people needing intensive care. Two out of 40” in hospitals, said Seychelles President Wavel Ramkalawan in a May 10 interview. “The vaccine will protect people from getting serious symptoms.”"

[herfiehandbag]

Yes OK, whatever...

[Patong2021]

2 hours ago, gearbox said:

Ask the Seychelles about what....there is nothing clear yet there.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/seychelles-e2-80-99s-covid-mysteries-pit-anti-vaxxers-against-scientists/ar-AAKqFfe

 

"Still, more answers are needed. The government hasn’t disclosed what vaccine was administered in the breakthrough cases that make up a third of the total count. No agency has done any genomic sequencing to determine which variant is dominant on the islands, though the one first identified in South Africa, B.1.351, was detected in Seychelles in February."

 

57% Sinopharm, 43% AstraZeneca...the South African variant in circulation. The results will be interesting.

 

However what is more important is this:

 

"What’s also apparent, so far, is that though there’s been a surge in cases in Seychelles, very few people are getting seriously ill. “We have only a few people needing intensive care. Two out of 40” in hospitals, said Seychelles President Wavel Ramkalawan in a May 10 interview. “The vaccine will protect people from getting serious symptoms.”"

 

To date there is  a large amount of data for the efficacy of the Oxford Astra Zeneca vaccine on the original Wuhan strain and the  variants..  The data is either not complete or not available for the China vaccines.  If you have confidence in China quality, please take China vaccine. I hope all the China supporters take the product many times.

 

[John Drake]

I don't think anybody is going to be criticizing this vaccine.

[holy cow cm]

More bowing down to the makers of the gift that keeps on mutating and giving. I am so disappointed in their decision to support them and also for this to be fast tracked for where Modena and Pfizer should be put on the number one priority list. Sputnik is supposedly good but then It just supports another commie dictator based regime. So sad in a sense. 

[CALSinCM]

5 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The government says it will have 6 million AstraZenaca doses and 3 million Sinovac doses available in June.

 

The FDA on Friday approved the Sinopharm coronavirus vaccine for emergency use, making it the fifth authorised by Thailand after AstraZenaca, Sinovac's CoronaVac, Johnson & Johnson's Janssen and Moderna.

 

The royal academy procurement comes after Thailand was hit by its worst COVID-19 outbreak so far, with over 80% of its 144,976 cases and 954 deaths occurring in the past two months, driven by the highly transmissible B.1.1.7 variant first detected in Britain.

 

Just a over 1 million of Thailand's more than 66 million people are fully vaccinated.

What a freaking mess.

[metisdead]

A post with a reference to the King has been removed.  ANY discussion of the Royal family, even disguised reference can result in a permanent ban from the forum.  
 

[gearbox]

9 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

To date there is  a large amount of data for the efficacy of the Oxford Astra Zeneca vaccine on the original Wuhan strain and the  variants..  The data is either not complete or not available for the China vaccines.  If you have confidence in China quality, please take China vaccine. I hope all the China supporters take the product many times.

 

 

China supporters? Do you think the vaccination is a soccer match, where one needs to shout support for one of the teams?

By the way if you don't have any confidence in anything Chinese don't forget to check the ingredients of your daily medicine intake, or better replace them with Lipton tea.

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-the-u-s-ceded-control-of-drug-supplies-to-china-11596634936

[Danderman123]

The bad news is that this million doses is mostly symbolic, able to provide some photo ops, but not much more.

 

But as a symbol, it does show that the current official vaccination program is weak. If only there were more organizations capable of independent procurement of vaccines.

[sirineou]

18 minutes ago, gearbox said:

 

China supporters? Do you think the vaccination is a soccer match, where one needs to shout support for one of the teams?

By the way if you don't have any confidence in anything Chinese don't forget to check the ingredients of your daily medicine intake, or better replace them with Lipton tea.

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-the-u-s-ceded-control-of-drug-supplies-to-china-11596634936

The amount of ignorance in the general populating is incredible, especially in the information era. In fact it is frightening.

Imagine if there was a medicine with low side affects that would render Covid 19 as harmless as the common cold. 

  Well there is such a medicine, it is called Sinovac.  According to real world data , reported on Bloomberg financial news and other reputable publications, after administered to millions of people the results were that it reduced deaths' from Covid 19 by 98%  and Hospitalization by 96% , in essence rendering Covid 19 as harmless as the common cold in those vaccinated. 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-11/china-s-sinovac-shot-found-highly-effective-in-real-world-study 

 

How much are you willing to bet that with in three replies some Yahoo will post that Sinovac is only 52% affective 

Edited May 29, 2021 by sirineou

[Nojohndoe]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

The bad news is that this million doses is mostly symbolic, able to provide some photo ops, but not much more.

 

But as a symbol, it does show that the current official vaccination program is weak. If only there were more organizations capable of independent procurement of vaccines.

More than symbolic only. It has set a justifiable precedent in defying "control" of vaccine options and/or supply. There is nothing in that that removes verification of standards .

It also does not eliminate the basic problem of a shortage of  available supply.

[mtls2005]

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The bad news is that this million doses is mostly symbolic

 

Maybe it could be tried on prisoners, given the virus' massive outbreak in Thai jails?

 

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Nithi said other organisations would be able to buy from the academy's 1 million Sinopharm doses, adding that it did not seek profit.

 

The Federation of Thai Industries and the energy firm PTT Group Pcl have shown interest as potential buyers and the academy would continue to negotiate for more doses after June based on demand, Nithi said.

 

This is a bit confusing.

 

No clue why there isn't any clarity or transparency on this?

 

This could be spun into a massively positive development.

 

Instead it's a bit shrouded and open to interpretation.

 

 

 

[Danderman123]

2 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Maybe it could be tried on prisoners, given the virus' massive outbreak in Thai jails?

 

 

It could be, but I suspect it will be used for more high visibility recipients.

[gearbox]

15 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The bad news is that this million doses is mostly symbolic, able to provide some photo ops, but not much more.

 

But as a symbol, it does show that the current official vaccination program is weak. If only there were more organizations capable of independent procurement of vaccines.

When I read carefully this article I can't find anything definitive there. It "seeks" to procure, but there is no confirmation that the vaccines are paid, or when they are going to be delivered.

 

Currently there are delivery delays of any type of vaccine in many countries.

 

[mark5335]

9 hours ago, John Drake said:

I don't think anybody is going to be criticizing this vaccine.

other than the fine netizens of ThaiVisa. 

[mtls2005]

9 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

It could be, but I suspect it will be used for more high visibility recipients.

 

Waves hand...

 

"These aren't the vaccines you're looking for..."

 

 

 

 

[newnative]

So, why couldn't the government procure this?  And much sooner?  I was going to say 'feet dragging' but to drag your feet they first have to be moving.  

[hotchilli]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

We want to help plug in the gaps for business, schools, so they can move forward," Nithi Mahanonda, secretary-general of the Chulabhorn Royal Academy told a news briefing.

You mean help an ineffective government who have failed in their duty to protect the nation?

[Rimmer]

A post has been removed:

 

Also, just as a reminder, ANY discussion of the Royal family, even disguised reference can result in a permanent ban from the forum.  

[Litlos]

I know someone who had the Sinopharm and then got Covid, but a very mild case and only a couple of days at home.. So yes the Sinopharm and even Sinovac are somewhat effective, just they are chinese and not the gold standard. Will I take either of them. no. But that is because at some point I need to travel and the chinese vaccines are not recognised by most western countries. So would be either quarantine or another vaccine, and there has been no research to indicate it is safe to mix vaccines.

The funny part about this was the announcement appeared in the royal gazette to satisfy some legal requirement. Apparently neither the covid czar or A Nut in knew it was coming, but they cannot say anything as that will be Lesse Majeste, the very same article they have been using to supress any questioning of the current rollout. Karma, lol.

 

Cheers

[Disparate Dan]

41 minutes ago, newnative said:

So, why couldn't the government procure this?  And much sooner?  I was going to say 'feet dragging' but to drag your feet they first have to be moving.  

Simple: TIT. Seems no-one is giving a bung to do it. So they don't.

[smutcakes]

To me like the tax payer buys the vaccine, it is then sold it to state institutions (tax payer funded) for a profit. Tax payers will pay twice and a few people working for PTT will get their jabs courtesy of tax payer whilst the rest of the tax paying population have to wait.

[Caldera]

Those who seek shall find... the only question that remains is, when will these one million doses be available?

[nightfox]

Another useless vaccine that nobody wants.........Thailand must be getting them at penny's at the dollar. Whats the next round of good news, Thailand imports Russian Spunik.

[Emdog]

Any mention as to where and when shots will be available? I signed up on their site last week just to see if I could do it.

[rupert the bear]

ohdear they dont get it do they.the china vacc has not been ppassed by any int board so far as i know and theres strong resistance to it,so what do they do?keep stopping the effective vaccs entering shovel up this <deleted> and wait till the scam op starts banging out vaccs in large nos,im still very suprised the ox uni and AZ entered into an obviously flawed entity,bioscience.they really should not have done that from a medical or moral perspective.plenty of other places produce that arnt up to their ears in corruption racism and feudalism,surely ox uni knows what goes on here and to associate your self with P and A ,well i wouldnt especially if located overseas and supposedly in possession of an intellect