Thailand begins massive vaccination drive despite shortages, concerns

[kiwiaussie]

15 hours ago, atpeace said:

Risky post! The Thais are incompetent crowd is going to crucify you.  Wouldn't want to be you!

It was actually 412,000 odd vaccines in the end.

 

The Thai bashers sucking on a few lemons this morning but will no doubt predict further disaster.

[richard_smith237]

8 minutes ago, kiwiaussie said:

It was actually 412,000 odd vaccines in the end.

 

The Thai bashers sucking on a few lemons this morning but will no doubt predict further disaster.

 

Which is excellent... But Thailand still needs to step up the vaccination rates. 

 

At 412,000 vaccines per day it will still take 167 days to administer the first dose to the 69 million Thai population.

 

Thailand needs to be targeting 1-2 million administered doses per day (if that is physically possible).

 

 

[sawadee1947]

18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Thailand starts long awaited COVID-19 vaccination drive

 

People wait to receive the first dose of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine against the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) as Thailand start a mass inoculation at a gymnasium inside the Siam paragon Shopping center, Bangkok, Thailand June 7, 2021. REUTERS/Soe Zeya Tun

 

BANGKOK (Reuters) -Thailand kicked off a long-awaited mass vaccination campaign on Monday as the country battles its third and worst wave of the coronavirus epidemic.

 

The government aims to administer 6 million doses this month, hoping to ease worries over the highly anticipated roll-out and concerns about supply shortages.

 

"The government will ensure that everyone is vaccinated," Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha said in televised comments after he visited an inoculation centre in Bangkok.

 

There were, however, early hiccups as some vaccine centres registered more than their quota, leading to postponements, senior health official Opas Karnkawinpong told a news conference.

 

"We apologise if your vaccination appointment was postponed, but will make sure you are registered at the earliest," Opas said.

 

Hospitals last week delayed vaccinations for nearly 40,000 people, citing a limited supply.

 

Thailand escaped the worst of the coronavirus pandemic as it hit other countries hard last year, but is now grappling with its deadliest outbreak. Officials have scrambled to source more vaccines amid the third wave, which so far accounts for more than 80% of its 179,886 total infections and 1,269 fatalities.

 

Authorities on Monday said 235 cases of the B.1.617.2 variant, which ravaged India, had spread to nine provinces since it was first detected in Bangkok last month.

 

The outbreaks has highlighted criticisms of the country's vaccine programme for an over-reliance on AstraZeneca shots produced by royal-owned Siam Bioscience, a slow roll-out and a confusing registration system.

 

On Monday morning, 986 vaccination centres reported a total of 143,116 people received shots. That adds to 2.8 million people deemed vulnerable, including frontline health and transport workers.

 

"My feeling is that no matter what, we will need to go outside of home for the littlest things, so getting the vaccine gives us a sense of relief," said Praepawee Lertpongkijja, 38, at a Bangkok vaccination centre.

 

VACCINE SUPPLIES

 

The 6 million doses to be administered this month will be a mix of AstraZeneca and imported Sinovac vaccines.

 

Concerns were raised last week over local production of the AstraZeneca vaccine by Siam Bioscience's after the Philippines said its order had been reduced and delayed.

 

The health ministry on Monday said it will receive an additional 3.42 million doses from AstraZeneca after mid-June said, did not specify how much would be locally made.

 

It received 1.8 million locally-produced AstraZeneca shots on Friday. Another 200,000 doses from South Korea, a health ministry source told Reuters.

 

The country expects to sign contracts this week for 20 million shots of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine and five million doses from Johnson & Johnson

 

Private hospitals will offer two shots of the Moderna vaccine for 3,800 baht ($121.91) after October, an industry group said, adding 10 million doses had been ordered.

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2021-06-07

 

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Some days ago they were bragging to have 1 million people get their vaccine per day. Now only 6 millions a month. 

Will PM apologise for this little mistake? ????

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, sawadee1947 said:

Will PM apologise for this little mistake?

If they have been watching Bunter, Hancock and the rest of Tory Government.....no chance.

[Tanoshi]

18 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

Some days ago they were bragging to have 1 million people get their vaccine per day. Now only 6 millions a month. 

Will PM apologise for this little mistake? ????

Why, he doesn't care.

Anutin, Prayut and the rest of their cronies were first to receive the jabs, even before medical staff treating Covid patients. That tells you all you need to know.

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22 hours ago, friendofthai said:

Let's thank China for making this possible. Thanks to the uninterrupted supply of the highly effective Sinovac vaccine, Thailand has accumulated enough vaccine to start mass vaccinations.

Actually, in epidemiological terms, it's not highly effective. Effective in this context means preventing infections. Pfizer and Moderna, are far more effective. That said, Coronavac does provide excellent protection against severe, critical, and fatal outcomes.

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22 hours ago, friendofthai said:

Looks like there will be very little amounts of western vaccines there. Why? This is the explanation - 
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-china-are-beating-u-s-vaccine-diplomacy-experts-say-n1262742

One of the advantages of not being a democracy is that you can do take actions that would get you voted out of office otherwise. So, it's political suicide for a leader of a democracy to send vaccines abroad while domestic demand for the vaccine outstrips supply. Both China and Russia send vaccines abroad at the expense of vaccinating less citizens. In the case of China, that was okay since, as a totalitarian police state, it's able to control its population's movements and suppress the spread of the disease. But for Russian, with its disastrous response to Covid, it's a disgrace.

[unblocktheplanet]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Which is excellent... But Thailand still needs to step up the vaccination rates. 

 

At 412,000 vaccines per day it will still take 167 days to administer the first dose to the 69 million Thai population.

 

Thailand needs to be targeting 1-2 million administered doses per day (if that is physically possible).

OF COURSE, that's within reach. Any Grab driver could vaccinate their customers. It should only take an hour to learn IM injections but let's say it's a full day. Start training everybody now!

[friendofthai]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

One of the advantages of not being a democracy is that you can do take actions that would get you voted out of office otherwise. So, it's political suicide for a leader of a democracy to send vaccines abroad while domestic demand for the vaccine outstrips supply. Both China and Russia send vaccines abroad at the expense of vaccinating less citizens. In the case of China, that was okay since, as a totalitarian police state, it's able to control its population's movements and suppress the spread of the disease. But for Russian, with its disastrous response to Covid, it's a disgrace.

You misunderstand the real situation. Russia has very few vaccine factories which lead to production problems :
https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-struggles-to-meet-demand-for-its-covid-19-vaccine-11620993601
And the country can't solve this problems in the nearest future. So Russia is trying to involve all countries of the world (including China) into the production of Sputnik V vaccine. That will help Russian people to get enough Sputnik V for themselves in the nearest future.

[poohy]

Registration at Prachuap hospital failed no pink card cannot was told only for Thais at moment and no one being injected today so seemingly no vaccines of any brand

Told to try market village in hua hin instead

in the end they took a photocopy of passport and phone number What complete mess

[GroveHillWanderer]

On 6/7/2021 at 7:46 AM, WineOh said:

it's bound to end in disaster.

 

Farangs will be lucky if we get our vaccines before 2025!

My wife got her first vaccine dose (AstraZeneca) yesterday in Hua Hin. She is Thai but we saw at least 10 farang getting their jabs in the time we were there (nearly 2 hours).

 

I have an appointment for my first dose July 6. 

[GroveHillWanderer]

On 6/7/2021 at 12:44 PM, WineOh said:

Why is it not relevant?

 

you said there is lots of evidence that many farangs have already received their vaccine. Where is it?

 

and im telling you that i dont know any foreigners in thailand that have had theirs. So i only see evidence pointing to the contrary of what you claim.

 

get it????

There are a number of posts on the Hua Hin CoVid-19 Community Support Facebook page, from farang who got their vaccinations yesterday, some including photos.

[GroveHillWanderer]

On 6/7/2021 at 12:44 PM, WineOh said:

you said there is lots of evidence that many farangs have already received their vaccine. Where is it?

 

and im telling you that i dont know any foreigners in thailand that have had theirs. So i only see evidence pointing to the contrary of what you claim.

In addition to my post above, there are photos on the link below from this forum, showing farang in Hua Hin among those getting their vaccinations.

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1219834-prachuap-13000-receive-astra-zeneca-jabs-on-lively-first-day-officials-even-burst-into-song/

Edited June 8, 2021 by GroveHillWanderer

[sawadee1947]

6 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

Why, he doesn't care.

Anutin, Prayut and the rest of their cronies were first to receive the jabs, even before medical staff treating Covid patients. That tells you all you need to know.

I knew it from the first moment I saw him in TV. 

I wouldn't buy a second hand car from him ????

[richard_smith237]

6 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

OF COURSE, that's within reach. Any Grab driver could vaccinate their customers. It should only take an hour to learn IM injections but let's say it's a full day. Start training everybody now!

 

If the vaccines could survive the temperatures they could be posted out and everyone self administers....  However, guidelines suggest the AZ (as an example) has to be used within an hour if at room temperature. 

But, it can be stored at 2-8 deg for 6 months. 

 

Administering an ‘intramuscular vaccine’ is incredibly easy, anyone can do it. 

 

 

Its clear the issue is not with actually administering the vaccine itself, but the amount of vaccine available. 

 

 

[Marvin Hagler]

8 hours ago, kiwiaussie said:

It was actually 412,000 odd vaccines in the end.

 

The Thai bashers sucking on a few lemons this morning but will no doubt predict further disaster.

For 7 years they lied about everything and anything.

 

Why would they suddenly start telling the truth now? How do you know it really was 412,000?

It’s about trust, and over the past 7 years this regime have proven they cannot be trusted.

[friendofthai]

On 6/8/2021 at 12:26 PM, placeholder said:

One of the advantages of not being a democracy is that you can do take actions that would get you voted out of office otherwise. So, it's political suicide for a leader of a democracy to send vaccines abroad while domestic demand for the vaccine outstrips supply.

You should know more about democracy. People of China and Russia can teach you. It was invented in ancient Rome. The entire society was divided into 2 groups - "the elite" and "the folks". Only people from the elite group had the right to vote while ordinary folks can get only meal'n'real. Centuries have passed and the democratic system has evolved. The modern democracy provide meal'n'real in the field of elections to make an illusion of participation in elections for folks. But of course we know that all the candidates must be given at least 1`000`000`000$ to pay for the campaign. And only people from the elite group can give such a huge amount of money. So the elite people are those who really make a choice while the folks are getting meal'n'real only  - exactly the same as in the ancient Rome.

The Chinese system is totally different. Ordinary people are those who really determine the future of the country. That is why China has become the world leader in fighting COVID.

[Surelynot]

2 minutes ago, friendofthai said:

You should know more about democracy. People of China and Russia can teach you. It was invented in ancient Rome. The entire society was divided into 2 groups - "the elite" and "the folks". Only people from the elite group had the right to vote while ordinary folks can get only meal'n'real. Centuries have passed and the democratic system has evolved. The modern democracy provide meal'n'real in the field of elections to make an illusion of participation in elections for folks. But of course we know that all the candidates must be given at least 1`000`000`000$ to pay for the campaign. And only people from the elite group can give such a huge amount of money. So the elite people are those who really make a choice while the folks are getting meal'n'real only  - exactly the same as in the ancient Rome.

The Chinese system is totally different. Ordinary people are those who really determine the future of the country. That is why China has become the world leader in fighting COVID.

Thought the Greeks were first

[Gandtee]

1 hour ago, Surelynot said:

Thought the Greeks were first

Nah. Thailand is the hub of democracy.????

[Surelynot]

Just now, Gandtee said:

Nah. Thailand is the hub of democracy.????

Silly me......

[Tanoshi]

19 minutes ago, Gandtee said:

Nah. Thailand is the hub of democracy.????

Run by Greeks Geeks.

[AJR3RD]

3 hours ago, friendofthai said:

It was invented in ancient Rome.

FYI, Democracy is derived from two Greek words, "Demos," and "Kratos," meaning rule. They are Greek because Democracy originated in Athens (Athenian Democracy) around the 8th century B.C.  The Roman Republic made some changes, but only a few few Romans were considered citizens and thus able to participate. 

[friendofthai]

17 minutes ago, AJR3RD said:

FYI, Democracy is derived from two Greek words, "Demos," and "Kratos," meaning rule. They are Greek because Democracy originated in Athens (Athenian Democracy) around the 8th century B.C.  The Roman Republic made some changes, but only a few few Romans were considered citizens and thus able to participate. 

You are right. It was invented in Greece.

[placeholder]

6 hours ago, friendofthai said:

You should know more about democracy. People of China and Russia can teach you. It was invented in ancient Rome. The entire society was divided into 2 groups - "the elite" and "the folks". Only people from the elite group had the right to vote while ordinary folks can get only meal'n'real. Centuries have passed and the democratic system has evolved. The modern democracy provide meal'n'real in the field of elections to make an illusion of participation in elections for folks. But of course we know that all the candidates must be given at least 1`000`000`000$ to pay for the campaign. And only people from the elite group can give such a huge amount of money. So the elite people are those who really make a choice while the folks are getting meal'n'real only  - exactly the same as in the ancient Rome.

The Chinese system is totally different. Ordinary people are those who really determine the future of the country. That is why China has become the world leader in fighting COVID.

Which is why the children of people who run China's "democracy" somehow manage to gain great wealth. And why income inequality in China is far greater than in developed economies of the WEst. The NY Times got banned in China for reporting on how the little princes and little princesses, the children of the Chinese apparatchiks,  have prospered under the system. And how these same officials have their own separate food supply because they know how unsafe the food generally available to the public is.

[Jeffr2]

11 hours ago, placeholder said:

Which is why the children of people who run China's "democracy" somehow manage to gain great wealth. And why income inequality in China is far greater than in developed economies of the WEst. The NY Times got banned in China for reporting on how the little princes and little princesses, the children of the Chinese apparatchiks,  have prospered under the system. And how these same officials have their own separate food supply because they know how unsafe the food generally available to the public is.

Don't forget he's a Russian troll.  Pushing Russian and Chinese jabs over ones from the west, and trolling with posts like this.  Sad.

[jacko45k]

On 6/7/2021 at 11:13 AM, Raphael Hythlodaeus said:

Except if you want to travel.

Exactly.... but will there be a time in the future this can all be forgotten.... our future?

Edited June 11, 2021 by jacko45k

[GroveHillWanderer]

On 6/9/2021 at 4:50 PM, AJR3RD said:

FYI, Democracy is derived from two Greek words, "Demos," and "Kratos," meaning rule. They are Greek because Democracy originated in Athens (Athenian Democracy) around the 8th century B.C.  The Roman Republic made some changes, but only a few few Romans were considered citizens and thus able to participate. 

You missed out part of the definition. Kratos does indeed mean rule or power but Demos means citizen.

 

So taken together it means "rule by the citizens."

[phills2k1]

On 6/8/2021 at 12:00 AM, kiwiaussie said:

It was actually 412,000 odd vaccines in the end.

 

The Thai bashers sucking on a few lemons this morning but will no doubt predict further disaster.

Well this aged well