Leading Chula professor criticizes government’s Sinovac obsession

[Rhacsyn]

2 hours ago, Jajazazajaja said:

Deliberately misleading people

 

“AstraZeneca is known to be over 90 per cent effective against hospitalization from the latest strain spreading throughout the globe, the Delta variant. Sinovac’s efficacy, on the other hand, is only at around 50”
 

They compare the effectiveness against hospitalization for AZ against overall efficacy against Sinovac. Which makes no sense 

 

the data from Indonesia suggests that Sinovac is over 90% effective against hospitalization 

 

 

why don’t people actually read what’s in the article?

On a slight tangent, the report states that she is head of the faculty of "science", whereas she is, more correctly, the head of the faculty of "political science"

 

https://www.research.chula.ac.th/researcher-/siripan-nogsuan-sawasdee/

[tifino]

the Sinovac might not have the equivalent potent effectiveness in avoiding IntensiveCare/Deaths as those other concoctions

- but when compared against the opposition; has Sinovac (being the only actual vaccine)  ITSELF killed or caused Stroke/HeartAttacks? like those reported on the competition

[Sakeopete]

Prayuth's master Emperor Pooh make the decisions for him, he is only the tyrant governor of China's territory Siam.

 

[Jajazazajaja]

1 hour ago, Rhacsyn said:

On a slight tangent, the report states that she is head of the faculty of "science", whereas she is, more correctly, the head of the faculty of "political science"

 

https://www.research.chula.ac.th/researcher-/siripan-nogsuan-sawasdee/

 

the plot thickens, thanks for that.

 

there is a definite misinformation campaign going on with Sinovac and people here are falling for it.

 

these are very serious matters and peoples lives are at stake.

[BusyB]

It has more vitamin 'C' than the other jabs ...

[John Drake]

6 hours ago, smedly said:

very brave for speaking up

 

she will be contacted soon and threatened like the one reported last week

 

Or more likely receive a research endowment from CP.

[CrunchWrapSupreme]

5 hours ago, sapson said:

You have to wonder how much these guys need?

"How many mansions? How many yachts? How much is enough, while there are children going to bed hungry in this country?" - US Senator Bernie Sanders, during his 8 hour filibuster of Congress in 2010.

[CrunchWrapSupreme]

4 hours ago, Geoffggi said:

Maybe it has something to do with the Chinese Government

Yes. A certain branch of the Chinese govt.

https://www.thebigchilli.com/feature-stories/thailands-six-pack-the-powerful-thai-chinese-families-who-dominate-the-countrys-business-scene

????????????????

 

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Professor Siripan told us the main question she has for the government is why they are still choosing Sinovac over other vaccine alternatives when it’s clear that it is more expensive and has a much lower efficacy rate?

Tunnel vision?

[Eric Loh]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Professor Siripan told us the main question she has for the government is why they are still choosing Sinovac over other vaccine alternatives

The JFCCT covid-19 vaccination plan on 6th May gave a different picture.

At least 100 million doses will be procured within this year of which 63 million doses will be supplied by AZ, 2 million doses from Sonovac and 37 million doses will be aquired from other manufacturers such as Pfizer. J&J and Moderna. 

Sinovac is popular with the developing countries because it is the cheapest of the other available vaccines. Don't understand the rationale behind the professor criticism. 

[sawadee1947]

Leading Chula professor criticizes government’s Sinovac obsession

 

 

He's not the only one, for sure. Me too

[kynikoi]

7 hours ago, smedly said:

buy one get one free

But billed 2x @ 125% and kickback 225%

 

Besides, just servile subjects...

[JamieM]

7 hours ago, rodknock said:

some times it is better to keep my mouth shut, then to really say what i want to say!!!!!!

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men / women to say nothing.

[JamieM]

5 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

This is a matter of prestige/face for China, they just want as many countries as possible to order and use their vaccine. So my bet is that they’re throwing around quite a bit of money as an ‘incentive’ to persuade the powers that be to order the vaccine. And we all know the one and only true god that the Thai generals and their cronies pray to.

It's called vaccine diplomacy the Chinese are trying to use the vaccine to gain power over other countries.

 

Sadly for them their vaccine is of poor quality.

[lavender19]

Probably because.

https://www.kaohoon.com/news/international/413496

[Artisi]

8 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Childish question. 

Maybe childish, but out of the mouths of babe's.......... 

[DavisH]

19 minutes ago, Artisi said:

Maybe childish, but out of the mouths of babe's.......... 

...comes lots of rancid vomit????

[Redline]

Milk from mommy's tit

[Redline]

8 hours ago, Osthos said:

She's right. If Thailand is going to be battling the Delta variant, then we have no actual data on how effective it is.

 

As I posted elsewhere, both the Pfizer/Biontech and AZ vaccine are over 90% effective in preventing people from needing hospital treatment, as per a UK Government report yesterday.

 

Vaccines highly effective against hospitalisation from Delta variant - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

https://healthpolicy-watch.news/are-chinese-vaccines-underperforming-a-dearth-of-real-life-studies-on-covid-vaccine-performance-leaves-question-unanswered/

[Redline]

3 hours ago, Jajazazajaja said:

 

the plot thickens, thanks for that.

 

there is a definite misinformation campaign going on with Sinovac and people here are falling for it.

 

these are very serious matters and peoples lives are at stake.

https://healthpolicy-watch.news/are-chinese-vaccines-underperforming-a-dearth-of-real-life-studies-on-covid-vaccine-performance-leaves-question-unanswered/

[Redline]

8 hours ago, Jajazazajaja said:

Deliberately misleading people

 

“AstraZeneca is known to be over 90 per cent effective against hospitalization from the latest strain spreading throughout the globe, the Delta variant. Sinovac’s efficacy, on the other hand, is only at around 50”
 

They compare the effectiveness against hospitalization for AZ against overall efficacy against Sinovac. Which makes no sense 

 

the data from Indonesia suggests that Sinovac is over 90% effective against hospitalization 

 

 

why don’t people actually read what’s in the article?

https://healthpolicy-watch.news/are-chinese-vaccines-underperforming-a-dearth-of-real-life-studies-on-covid-vaccine-performance-leaves-question-unanswered/

 

[Redline]

 The WHO EUL’s for those two vaccines were unique in that unlike the Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, and Jonhson & Johonson vaccines that it had also approved, neither had undergone review and approval by a strict national or regional regulatory authority such as the US Food and Drug Administration or the European Medicines Agency. Nor have Phase 3 results of the Sinopharm and Sinovac trials been published in a peer-reviewed medical journal. 

More to the point, post-approval, any large-scale tracking of the efficacy of the Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccine rollouts by WHO or national authorities seems to be missing.

In contrast, rollouts of other vaccines have seen careful monitoring and assessment by the regulatory agencies of the US, UK, Europe, as well as independent researchers. The massive Israeli rollout of Pfizer’s vaccine by countries, for instance, saw the detailed reporting of dataon illness, hospitalizations, and among hundreds of thousands of people who were vaccinated as compared to similar groups of people who had not received their jabs.

 

https://healthpolicy-watch.news/are-chinese-vaccines-underperforming-a-dearth-of-real-life-studies-on-covid-vaccine-performance-leaves-question-unanswered/

[RichardColeman]

Proof if the pudding will be in the coming months if certain people start being hospitalised with only certain vaccines

[soalbundy]

8 hours ago, Salerno said:

 

He?

 

In these 'woke' days confusion is allowed  (but not forgiven)

Edited June 23, 2021 by soalbundy

[soalbundy]

3 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Proof if the pudding will be in the coming months if certain people start being hospitalised with only certain vaccines

You won't know these details.

[JamieM]

9 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Proof if the pudding will be in the coming months if certain people start being hospitalised with only certain vaccines

That will be the start of the trouble, the Thai people are already wary of the Chinese if this happens can you imagine how angry the Thai people will be?

[connda]

I wonder when she gets her new grant money from a Western institution?  ????

[Jajazazajaja]

40 minutes ago, Redline said:

https://healthpolicy-watch.news/are-chinese-vaccines-underperforming-a-dearth-of-real-life-studies-on-covid-vaccine-performance-leaves-question-unanswered/

 

did you even read the article?

 

According to the WHO, which recently granted both vaccines “Emergency Use Listings”, Sinovac’s vaccine efficacy stands at 51% against symptomatic disease and 100% against severe disease.

 

100% is not bad, is it?

[Jajazazajaja]

1 hour ago, JamieM said:

It's called vaccine diplomacy the Chinese are trying to use the vaccine to gain power over other countries.

 

Sadly for them their vaccine is of poor quality.

 

poor quality? Well the WHO disagreed 

 

According to the WHO, which recently granted both vaccines “Emergency Use Listings”, Sinovac’s vaccine efficacy stands at 51% against symptomatic disease and 100% against severe disease.

 

If we can 100% eliminate severe COVID then this pandemic is over

 

do you understand?

[JamieM]

3 minutes ago, Jajazazajaja said:

do you understand?

I understand that the WHO organisations word is not to be trusted, nor in the best interests of the Thai people.

 

NEVER FORGET