Prominent doctor suggests one week lockdown of Bangkok to curb COVID-19 spread

[chang1]

54 minutes ago, chang1 said:

Depends on what you mean by work. 

Any fool can see they do work so why anyone would say they don't is hard to understand. They do bring down the infection rate which in turn saves lives. This is a fact. The problem is how good a lockdown can be imposed. China did it very well but would Thailand go to the same extremes? The Delta (Indian) variant is extremely contagious. It is getting out of control in the UK even with an effective vaccination programme. Luckily the vaccines are working and keeping most of us alive and out of hospitals. It's the young and unvaccinated who are dying now but at a much lower rate.

Until more people are vaccinated, lockdowns are the only option to give Thailand more time. Unfortunately a week is far too short to make much difference. Of course, if you think lockdowns are nonsense and lives are expendable, then Brazil shows us how bad it can get - .25% of the whole population dead and growing. Doesn't sound too bad until you realise that that is over half a million people but still not as bad as the US thanks to another leader who thought weak people are worthless. 

 

 

18 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

 

I guess it depends on your definition of "work"?

 

 

Lockdowns are like fire-breaks. They're meant to slow the progress of a fire, so that it is easier to fight.

 

Lockdowns require foresight, data and courage.

 

Lockdowns reduce the strain on the healthcare systems and its workers.

 

Lockdowns save lives.

 

With a new variant upon us, a seven day lockdown for Bangkok seems prudent.

 

Any idiot can claim something doesn't work. Just one of the definitions of an idiot I guess?

 

I think you can say we agree!

[Nanaplaza666]

14 hours ago, ukrules said:

Too late, far too late, it's already in the wild.

 

The only way out of it now is to vaccinate the entire population which will likely take the best part of a full year.

 

Totally treu at the tempo it's going at this moment . 

[BestB]

Finally a doctor with a brain .should have been done 2 months ago but doing it now will most certainly help . Bkk numbers not falling for over 2 months already 

[the green light]

I like that

[Nanaplaza666]

31 minutes ago, British Bulldog said:

I'm sorry my friend but lock-downs DO work ! Here in Laos, as soon as we had one or two people infected we locked down, within weeks, no more infections, we held a maximum of 42 virus cases and no deaths for over a year until several illegal entry Thai people with the virus crossed the Mekong and started our worst wave ... we ran into hundreds of cases per day ... so ... we locked down ... within weeks our cases dropped to 1 or 2 a day with '0' being recorded n Sunday ... we now opening up again ... of course, lock downs only work if you have the cooperation of the people !

Lockdowns work because people have almost no contact with others . You realy think that Laos people bring the virus to Thailand and Thai people bring the virus to Laos and whatever combination you think of or you think the virus is already everywhere and just mutating ?? Delta variant , Indian variant , Brazilian variant , i myself prefer the Columbian or Jamaican or Tegridy variant . Joking aside , Thai say Laos brought it , Laos say Thai brought it . It's here (and there) they have to deal with it and vaccinating is the way to go and a week of lockdown will only slowdown but not solve anything so they need to vaccinate and stop filling their pockets and spouting B.S . 

[johnnybangkok]

16 hours ago, RandolphGB said:

Seven days, then seven weeks then seven months. 
 

Lockdowns don’t work. 

 

Stop this nonsense now and open the world.

Talking of nonsense, lets start with your statement 'Lockdowns don’t work'.

 

There are plenty of studies around modelling the huge amounts of deaths that would have occured without lockdowns, with the enclosed estimating some 3 million more deaths in just 11 European countries. 

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/06/09/872441984/modelers-suggest-pandemic-lockdowns-saved-millions-from-dying-of-covid-19

 

Worldwide the numbers increase dramatically with some models predicting 40 million dead. That's Spanish Flu numbers. 

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/covid19-model-predicts-40-million-people-could-die-without-interventions-2020-3

 

So no, lockdowns do work. Obviously.

 

[Madeline Thompson]

That is ridiculous, profoundly stupid, the city - the country! - is already nearly dead for lack of gainful employment, lack of community, endless dictatorship,  and the never-ending feeling no citizen has a right to build a life, only follow the rules of a very few people.  One week lockdown would do absolutely nothing to change the pandemic situation.

[brewsterbudgen]

13 minutes ago, BestB said:

Finally a doctor with a brain .should have been done 2 months ago but doing it now will most certainly help . Bkk numbers not falling for over 2 months already 

Anyway according to reports in the last hour, the COVID-19 committee have rejected the idea.

[A Los for words]

'Prominent' - Adjective.

 

Underqualified and largely ignored 'expert' who does not care about the repercussions of sticking his/her head above the parapet wearing a silly hat and offering usually very sensible/obvious solutions.

 

[Taco]

This doctor hasn’t been laid in months and he is trying to put other people through his normal 7 day hand grind. Boo hoo on you. How about pushing your government to get vaccines that actually work. 

[BestB]

25 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Anyway according to reports in the last hour, the COVID-19 committee have rejected the idea.

Not surprising. Anything that is logical and rational gets rejected but all stupidity normally goes ahead. 

[Henryford]

The UK has been locked down for 15 months, and now vaccinated. Still has 11,000 cases a day.

[bkk6060]

It is probably more like 10,000 a day, several hundred on ventilators, still people are free to travel and it will spread further.

Bangkok is a dead city now anyway, lock it down.

 

[SuwadeeS]

Too many "experts" Talk top much.

Nobody News empty wird's.

What Thailand really needs is fast vaccination through the while country. ... And that with less burocracy.

E.g. Look a Germany. Stupid politicians, but then the logistics Tool place. By now, over 65 Million Injections were made.

Don't say, Thailand has no Money. They have it, but must ask the right people.

 

Edited June 24, 2021 by SuwadeeS

[nomadinuk]

17 hours ago, RandolphGB said:

Seven days, then seven weeks then seven months. 
 

Lockdowns don’t work. 

 

Stop this nonsense now and open the world.

March 2020 England said the same thing. Although that was meant to be just a 2 week curcuit breaker to save the NHS. 

 

15 months later its pretty much the norm now to either be in lockdown. Extend a lockdown or prepare for another lockdown.

 

New variants every few weeks will mean all this is here to stay. 2020 was just the opening act.

[British Bulldog]

1 hour ago, Nanaplaza666 said:

Lockdowns work because people have almost no contact with others . You realy think that Laos people bring the virus to Thailand and Thai people bring the virus to Laos and whatever combination you think of or you think the virus is already everywhere and just mutating ?? Delta variant , Indian variant , Brazilian variant , i myself prefer the Columbian or Jamaican or Tegridy variant . Joking aside , Thai say Laos brought it , Laos say Thai brought it . It's here (and there) they have to deal with it and vaccinating is the way to go and a week of lockdown will only slowdown but not solve anything so they need to vaccinate and stop filling their pockets and spouting B.S . 

Ha ! The writings on the walls so to speak (and the media of course) ... we in Laos simply locked down, and the Thai Government didn't now see the difference ... funny though, I cannot ever recall anybody media or otherwise, saying the virus came from Laos ... especially with such low numbers that we had !

[peleid]

Should have done that one month ago, all cases in my city are from people going on a jolly, selling lottery tickets. Thai people love to travel, lock the place down!!!

[jack71]

18 hours ago, RandolphGB said:

Seven days, then seven weeks then seven months. 
 

Lockdowns don’t work. 

 

Stop this nonsense now and open the world.

When you are in ICU with the dreaded chinese virus on death row please log on and update us on your changing views

[newnative]

   And, still no sense of urgency whatsoever in securing large numbers of vaccines immediately.  Just more thinking about maybe mulling a plan to set up a committee to discuss possibly getting some vaccines perhaps later sometime in the future this year or next year.  

[jack71]

1 week will not achieve much. Need longer time

[Kaopad999]

17 hours ago, ukrules said:

Too late, far too late, it's already in the wild.

 

The only way out of it now is to vaccinate the entire population which will likely take the best part of a full year.

 

They will never be able to vaccinate 'the whole population' there will  always be people who do not feel the need to be vaccinated. 
All they need to do, is vaccinate those who wish to do so. Once complete, then  open things back up and continue and normal. 

Edited June 24, 2021 by Kaopad999

[Lazybones]

18 hours ago, RandolphGB said:

Seven days, then seven weeks then seven months. 
 

Lockdowns don’t work. 

 

Stop this nonsense now and open the world.

Been working very effectively in Australia

[Kwaibill]

13 minutes ago, Lazybones said:

Been working very effectively in Australia

And in NZ, and China.

Lockdowns are not intended to "stop" the virus, but to slow the spread and hopefully gain a breathing space (deliberate word choice) to vaccinate, disinfect, clear ICU units, etc.

[fleccer]

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Anyway according to reports in the last hour, the COVID-19 committee have rejected the idea.

Well done ,common sense finally prevails

[Thomas J]

Lets assume for a moment that this action comes with no adverse economic consequences which of course is ludicrous.  Exactly what does the doctor propose after 1 week?  Even if the lockdown was effective which is questionable, you have just kicked the can down the street and delayed whatever spread of Covid there is until next week 

[VBF]

6 hours ago, Tarteso said:

Prominent doctor suggests one week lockdown of Bangkok to curb COVID-19 spread.

 

Tourism Authority Aims to Ease Quarantine Requirements in Thailand and Visitors’ Countries

 

Or Gilbert or Sullivan…. Clarify!!????

More like Laurel or Hardy!

[DjSilver]

Thai doctors have to be one of rhe worst in the world. There ain't even that much covid-19 in Bangkok or Thailand to even have any restrictions. 

[VBF]

2 hours ago, nomadinuk said:

March 2020 England said the same thing. Although that was meant to be just a 2 week curcuit breaker to save the NHS. 

 

15 months later its pretty much the norm now to either be in lockdown. Extend a lockdown or prepare for another lockdown.

 

New variants every few weeks will mean all this is here to stay. 2020 was just the opening act.

Except....... now we in UK have vaccines which make the essential difference. England is slowly, cautiously, coming out of lockdown, too cautiously for some, but I feel the Govt is aware of the errors made in 2020 and is slowing it down to ensure that they don't make the same errors in 2021.

[samtam]

4 hours ago, British Bulldog said:

I'm sorry my friend but lock-downs DO work ! Here in Laos, as soon as we had one or two people infected we locked down, within weeks, no more infections, we held a maximum of 42 virus cases and no deaths for over a year until several illegal entry Thai people with the virus crossed the Mekong and started our worst wave ... we ran into hundreds of cases per day ... so ... we locked down ... within weeks our cases dropped to 1 or 2 a day with '0' being recorded n Sunday ... we now opening up again ... of course, lock downs only work if you have the cooperation of the people !

 

Lockdowns only work if they are properly defined, and the measures implemented are critically thought through. Has anyone in the CCSA ever said what they mean by lockdown?

 

Closing parks, opening shopping malls. Closing condo exercise facilities, opening nail salons, closing massages, allowing foot massages. Hospitalising asymptomatic people, not testing unless symptomatic. It's all completely illogical. With no intelligent, well thought out policy by experts, not politicians, this mess will roll on and on, unlike a properly sourced vaccination programme, which has barely rolled out.

[Harry Om]

Those saying "look at Australia, lockdown works" need to consider the whole picture.

 

The long lockdowns in Australia only "worked" (if you ignore all the ongoing mental health issues/domestic violence that arose) because the Government threw MILLIONS of dollars at the people.

 

The unemployment payment was more than doubled and made easy to get, and all those on standby with their workplace shut down were given more than the unemployment payment. These payments were unconditional.

 

Everyone got money to live. Despite this many businesses still closed permanently.

 

People didn't starve and could still pay rent, and if they couldn't pay the rent it was made illegal to evict. 

 

Do you think these Govt payments will happen in Thailand?