Are you wearing a face mask in your car?

[ConnectionNotGuaranteed]

1 hour ago, Skallywag said:

No one needs a car in Pattaya.  Plenty of traffic and pollution from all the food and package delivery people already (people with jobs who have to drive)

Just walk around and if you see a motorcycle police coming, put the mask on quickly. 

Works for me 

☮️

 

Don't know who voted you in as decider of people's needs but just because something works for you doesn't mean it works for everyone.

 

To answer the op. Never when I'm in the car on my own but have the mask handy if in the car with wife and/or daughter

[Surelynot]

As there is only me and the wife and the windows are 60/40.........no.

 

We keep them ready to put on for toll booths, fuel stops etc.

[giddyup]

13 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Read and educate your viewpoint.

https://the-car-wash.com/how-window-tint-can-improve-driving-safety/

You said your windscreen was so dark that no one can see inside, that limits visibility especially at night. I can see that just from my side windows, and that's only with a very light tint. Read what the regs are in the UK with tinted windscreens. People get away with all kinds of illegal mods in Thailand.

Edited June 28, 2021 by giddyup

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, giddyup said:

You said your windscreen was so dark that no one can see inside, that limits visibility especially at night. I can see that just from my side windows, and that's only with a very light tint. Read what the regs are in the UK with tinted windscreens. People get away with all kinds of illegal mods in Thailand.

Try again. I never said my windscreen was so dark you can not see out. You better educate yourself some more. Looking in is not the same as looking out.  

[Surelynot]

5 minutes ago, giddyup said:

You said your windscreen was so dark that no one can see inside, that limits visibility especially at night. I can see that just from my side windows, and that's only with a very light tint. Read what the regs are in the UK with tinted windscreens. People get away with all kinds of illegal mods in Thailand.

Pretty sure the UK reg's are there for security/surveillance reasons more than night visibility.

 

Anyway Thais rarely look where they are going......so a 40% tint won't change things much.

[papa al]

1 hour ago, peter0017 said:

When I am alone in my car, I make sure to wear not only a face mask but also a face shield. Cant be too careful.

Same same here.

Also m/c helmet.

[ikke1959]

1 hour ago, peter0017 said:

When I am alone in my car, I make sure to wear not only a face mask but also a face shield. Cant be too careful.

maybe better wear a helmet ????

[Andy from Kent]

59 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Really, care to explain your viewpoint.  

 

 

Don't mean to speak for the poster but I think he's saying if a person cannot see into a car during the day because of tint darkness, how can the person driving  the car see out well at night?

 

 

[Kinnock]

Always ..... my passenger too ....

 

[Skallywag]

1 hour ago, giddyup said:

I'm not going to walk from the Dark Side to Pattaya beach.

Bolt taxi, about 62 baht.  Help out a Thai who needs income.

[The Cipher]

Re: window tinting - although it's true that there's some level of tint that's dark enough to be unsafe at night, it's absolutely possible to apply a tint level that makes the car look good and mean while still being safe to drive at night. Usually 15-20%.

[richard_smith237]

In Bangkok..... In my own in the car - No, not at all. 

 

In Bangkok.... In my car with my Wife and Son in the Car - No, but have the mask hanging round my neck.

(the mask makes my sun-glasses mist up - and I don’t want to wear it). 

 

In Bangkok... In my Car with anyone else other than Wife and Son - Always. 

 

In Bangkok.... On a Motorcycle - No, not at all (I have a full face helmet). 

 

In Bangkok.... In a Taxi - Always.

 

 

IF I were in Pattaya, I would re-think my choices. I get the impression the Police in Pattaya just love these opportunities as nothing more than an opportunity to make money, whereas in Bangkok the BiB seem a lot less hypocritical. 

 

 

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, Skallywag said:

No one needs a car in Pattaya.  Plenty of traffic and pollution from all the food and package delivery people already (people with jobs who have to drive)

Just walk around and if you see a motorcycle police coming, put the mask on quickly. 

Works for me 

☮️

 

speak for yourself, not me.

 

I most definitely need a car.

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, Skallywag said:

No one needs a car in Pattaya.  Plenty of traffic and pollution from all the food and package delivery people already (people with jobs who have to drive)

Just walk around and if you see a motorcycle police coming, put the mask on quickly. 

Works for me 

☮️

 

Child in a car seat, vs child in a Baht Bus....    obviously the back of moto-taxi is not an option with a child. 

 

So...  Car not needed ??  

 

Some people lack the capacity to think beyond their own individual situation.

 

 

 

 

Edited June 28, 2021 by richard_smith237

[ThailandRyan]

21 minutes ago, Andy from Kent said:

 

 

Don't mean to speak for the poster but I think he's saying if a person cannot see into a car during the day because of tint darkness, how can the person driving  the car see out well at night?

 

 

Easily.  The tint cuts down the glare coming in from approaching lights, it does not diminish your ability to see out when its dark, in fact if you turned the lights on inside the car and then stood outside you could see into the car during darkness.  It has always been more of a security issue with police and cameras not being able to see inside, just like putting a reflective clear tape on your license plates so the cameras can not photo them as the flash is returned back to the camera and the plate unreadable.  When you sit in the car with the windows tinted during the day you can still see out but someone looking in can not see inside because of the blocking of the suns rays going into the vehicle.

Edited June 28, 2021 by ThailandRyan

[richard_smith237]

53 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Read and educate your viewpoint.

https://the-car-wash.com/how-window-tint-can-improve-driving-safety/

 

.....And in another thread ThailandRyan will forward a link from the Pernod Rickard Group on the benefits of driving under the influence of Alcohol....????

 

 

While the sentiment of educating ones self, understanding an opposing viewpoint and developing a balanced opinion is well advised - using a single source, private business as a singular point of ‘education’ seems somewhat flawed, particularly when that source does not contain any information backed up by any expert testing, nor any expert information - the source is simply a ’single business car-wash website’ and carries no legitimacy whatsoever. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ThailandRyan]

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

.....And in another thread ThailandRyan will forward a link from the Pernod Rickard Group on the benefits of driving under the influence of Alcohol....????

 

 

While the sentiment of educating ones self, understanding an opposing viewpoint and developing a balanced opinion is well advised - using a single source, private business as a singular point of ‘education’ seems somewhat flawed, particularly when that source does not contain any information backed up by any expert testing, nor any expert information - the source is simply a ’single business car-wash website’ and carries no legitimacy whatsoever. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nicely done, but that's why I said to educate oneself.  There are plenty of study's done and I just enjoyed the one I posted from the Carwash...lol.  30+ years in Law enforcement and I have seen the reasons not to have it, while at the same time why it is needed.  However I am way off topic here.  

 

Wearing a mask while driving can also be hazardous for those wearing glasses as the glasses can tend to fog up as well.  I have to pull my mask down under my nose so my spectacles do not fog up which is even more dangerous than tint can ever be.

[richard_smith237]

17 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Nicely done, but that's why I said to educate oneself.  There are plenty of study's done and I just enjoyed the one I posted from the Carwash...lol.  30+ years in Law enforcement and I have seen the reasons not to have it, while at the same time why it is needed.  However I am way off topic here.  

 

Wearing a mask while driving can also be hazardous for those wearing glasses as the glasses can tend to fog up as well.  I have to pull my mask down under my nose so my spectacles do not fog up which is even more dangerous than tint can ever be.

 

Fair enough....   I think the ‘enforced’ laws in Western countries protect from the degree of tint that would prevent the Police from seeing into a car.

 

Advantages of window tint in the daytime and benefits of ‘anti-glare’ at night time from mild tint are soon out balanced by fools who put a greater degree of tint on their vehicles such at there is little argument from anyone that it impacts nighttime visibility.

 

There is a ‘balance point’ in this argument beyond which the vast majority of people would agree. In law in Thailand this balance point is 30% (i.e. the tint cannot block more than 30% of visible light - but that law is never enforced and ultimately, I can’t find a direct link to that law, but 30% is the cut off I’ve always understood in Thailand). 

 

 

IF the Police cannot see inside the car to see if you are wearing a mask, its likely the tint is too high for safe night time driving. Unless of course the ‘reflection’ off the windscreen etc at the checkpoint is also too strong to see inside, then that comes down to shade and positioning etc. 

 

 

 

The ‘more on topic’ facet of this discussion - is..... is it really necessary to wear a mask in a car ?

 

In your own transport with family, no of course not. 

In someone else’s transport, yes, wear a mask. 

 

The issue we have here is that some politician feels the need to police for common sense and provides the police with an opportunity to profit from absurdity. 

 

 

So, do taxi’s wipe / disinfect the passenger section of their car between every passenger ?? (rhetorical) - of course not. 

 

But, are we ALL not educated enough to just wear a mask inside someones else car or when there is ’someone else’ from outside the family in our car ??? (rhetorical) - of course we are. 

 

The need for this to be policed does not exist - IF there is one regulation that is followed and conformed with to a degree of conformity that is astonishing for a society which usually shows a flagrant disregard for the law, it is mask wearing !!!! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 28, 2021 by richard_smith237

[Pravda]

is this a poll? I will only answer a poll.

[Kinnock]

18 minutes ago, Pravda said:

is this a poll? I will only answer a poll.

Do you:

 

1. Wear a mask in your own car when driving alone

2. Wear a mask when driving with passengers

3. Wear a gimp mask in bed

4. Have windscreen tint so dark only radar could see if you're wearing a mask

5. Think cars are for poseurs

6. Wear a matching mask and Mankini set on Pattaya Beach

 

 

 

[IvorBiggun2]

Do you have to wear it if you are sitting on the back of a pickup? Or whilst driving a motorcycle?

[giddyup]

2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Try again. I never said my windscreen was so dark you can not see out. You better educate yourself some more. Looking in is not the same as looking out.  

Oh, you have some of that one-way tint?

[giddyup]

2 hours ago, Andy from Kent said:

 

 

Don't mean to speak for the poster but I think he's saying if a person cannot see into a car during the day because of tint darkness, how can the person driving  the car see out well at night?

 

 

Short answer is they can't.

[ThailandRyan]

38 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Short answer is they can't.

Again your view, and not the real deal. However, I will agree to disagree with you on that point.  Enjoy your day.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Do you have to wear it if you are sitting on the back of a pickup? Or whilst driving a motorcycle?

I have a mirror full face helmet ........ they can't see under it so it doesn't matter.

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Do you have to wear it if you are sitting on the back of a pickup? Or whilst driving a motorcycle?

 

There are no specific regulations: 

 

But, as being on a motorcycle is ‘outside’ then the regs say anyone outside has to wear a face-mask.

 

Thus:

Open faced helmet, wear a facemask, just to avoid being stopped. 

Closed face helmet, no need, they can’t see it.

 

I have never worn a face mask with my closed faced helmet. But, as soon as I get to a public carpark etc when the helmet comes off, a face mask goes on.

[Ralf001]

3 hours ago, Pravda said:

is this a poll? I will only answer a poll.

 

Girlie watching around town has become a lot more exciting, defo has an effect on my poll.

[Denim]

Now would be a good time to learn the Thai for :

 

' Do you know who I am ? '

[newnative]

No.

[bert bloggs]

9 hours ago, Skallywag said:

No one needs a car in Pattaya.  Plenty of traffic and pollution from all the food and package delivery people already (people with jobs who have to drive)

Just walk around and if you see a motorcycle police coming, put the mask on quickly. 

Works for me 

☮️

Cant afford to run a car eh,? Well thats a good excuse,mind you as we live out near Chochan its a hell of a walk to big c south Pattaya ,????