Thailand reports 6,166 new COVID-19 cases, 50 more deaths

[anchadian]

National Vaccination Rollout since 7 June

 

DAY 20: 74,075 <— Saturday

DAY 21: 93,577 <— Sunday

DAY 22: 269,459

DAY 23: 255,734

DAY 24: 254,992

DAY 25: 299,485

DAY 26: 345,109

DAY 27: 98,605 <— Saturday

DAY 28: 106,851 <— Sunday

 

TOTAL: 6,677,227 doses

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1411917987183927297

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

--New Thailand record for COVID patients in critical condition, 2,199.

 

--New Thailand record for total hospitalized patients, 63,520.

 

--Critical COVID cases on ventilators decline slightly from Sunday's record 616 number, down to 603 today.

 

 

 

Thailand new COVID cases exceed those in the U.S. once again today --  something that would have been unthinkable previously in the pandemic. Today wasn't the first time Thailand's daily case count has surpassed that in the U.S. lately, even though Thailand has less than one-quarter the population of the U.S.

 

 

Source: screen captures of televised government news briefing

[anchadian]

The number of people in ICU and on VENTILATORS:

 

26 June: 1,662/470 

27 June: 1,725/489

28 June: 1,806/510

29 June: 1,846/527

30 June: 1,911/556

1 July: 1,971/566

2 July: 2,002/579

3 July: 2,045/589

4 July: 2,147/616

5 July: 2,199/603 <— Today #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1411922086939881477

 

 

Edited July 5, 2021 by anchadian

[anchadian]

From the total 6,166 cases that were found in the past 24 hours:

 

- 3,961 via tests at medical facilities

- 2,109 via proactive tests at known clusters

- 84 via proactive in prisons

- 12 imported cases

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1411922765565681664

 

[peter48]

There is only one way forward? Thailand urgently needs more of  these vaccinations urgently.  1. Pfizer 2. Moderna 3. AstraZeneca and then roll out quickly to population starting with over 6os first and then come down age ranges to 18yrs old. Medics & People with co-morbidities too would be a priority. This is based on the fact that seniors are most infected by this plague which can for some hit the lungs most by around day 6 of the disease. Many people of course only have a fever, headache, cough for a few days - its what happens by second week which is crucial. 

 

This has been successful in UK, USA, Canada, Germany, Scandinavia, in fact across all Europe.  The China vaccines are mostly not recognised in the West by the regulators.  These countries had much higher death rates than Thailand so maybe there is less testing here. Even in the most advanced cities like London, New York, Paris with large scale ICU facilities you had ambulances  queuing around the block at the worst times of the first and third waves. 

 

Thailand must learn from other advanced nations.

Edited July 5, 2021 by peter48

[bkk6060]

19 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

10,000 cases per day by year’s end not out of the question, senior doctor says

 

 

Only 10000?

Yes, according to historical asymptomatic information about this virus, it is way over that now.

Could easily be 10,000 reported in a few weeks.

[jerrymahoney]

This was in yesterdays now locked "Thailand Reports ..." topic  but rather than the entire plane being urged to test, they now have a more detailed seat reference.:

 

Those sitting in the seats highlighted on Thai Smile flight WE201 last Thursday have been requested to present themselves for testing. Photo: Phuket Official Info Center

 

https://www.thephuketnews.com/covid-alert-issued-for-domestic-fight-passengers-and-cafe-customers-80558.php

Edited July 5, 2021 by jerrymahoney

[anchadian]

Today there are 50 deaths in #Thailand

 

34 males & 16 females

Median age is 69 (28-91 years)

Most deaths in Bangkok (17), Nonthaburi (9), Samut Prakan (6), Chachoengsao (3), plus 5 provinces with 2 each and 5 provinces with 1 each

9 with no underlying conditions

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1411922981866020865

 

[dinsdale]

48 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Fine. If you want to pretend that there will be zero beds available for the 6,000 new cases tomorrow, up to you.

 

But, in Real Life, there will be about 3,000 beds available in what will be a bit of a scramble.

 

For the nitpickers, I am not stating that 6,000 new cases and 3,000 discharges tomorrow are a certainty, it’s just an estimate.

Let me get this right. 6000 new cases. 3000 discharged. Surplus 3000 cases with no bed. You are seeing this as good news? Of course this is one day so the next day 6000 cases, 3000 discharged, 3000 accrues from day before now 6000 surplus cases with no beds etc. Numbers aren't really relevant other than cases are double (or more than double as it is) than that of vacated beds.

[anchadian]

Out of 6,070 local cases (outside of prison) most in

 

Bangkok - 1,729

Samut Prakan - 411

Samut Sakhon - 389

Pathum Thani - 352

Songkhla - 318

Chonburi - 279

Nonthaburi - 270

Ayutthaya - 212

Nakhon Pathom - 143

Pattani - 133

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1411924667279966210

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Typical of a weekend day, Sunday results being reported today, total vaccine doses administered less than 110,000, whereas they need to be doing more than 500,000 per day to stay on track to their goal:

 

 

Source: screen capture of televised government news briefing

 

Cumulative vaccination totals thus far:

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/358150542469943

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[anchadian]

Statistics showing new cases in Phuket since the start of the #PhuketSandbox on 1st July. There have been 15 new local cases in the last four days and zero imported cases. At the moment, there are 48 people in hospitals #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1411926666717253637

 

[ABCbangkok]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Before drawing conclusions, I would also ask Indonesia how many vaccinations have been administered. And I would be told about 55 million. Indonesia has a population of 275 million. Ya think if all those who were vaccinated with Coronavac instead were vaccinated instead with the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine, the numbers would have looked very different? 

Once again, most, if not all other vaccines do a better job. But that doesn't make Coronavac crappy. Unless you think drastically cutting the odds of going to the hospital or dying means a vaccine is crappy.

 

 

Your defense of the Chinese vaccines is illogical, because we are talking about the efficacy of the vaccines not about the percentage of population vaccinated. 

Here are a quotes from reports (easily found) on how the Chinese vaccines are doing in the field - 

“At least 10 out of 26 Indonesian doctors who have died from Covid-19 this month had been fully vaccinated with Sinovac, prompting health experts to consider whether medics should receive alternative doses to boost immunity.”

“…. several countries that have vaccinated a large proportion of their population and used the Chinese-made Sinovac or Sinopharm vaccines as part of their inoculation campaigns have reported recent outbreaks. These include Mongolia, Seychelles, Bahrain and Chile.“

 

“Mongolia was a beneficiary, jumping at the chance to score millions of Sinopharm shots. The small country quickly rolled out an inoculation program and eased restrictions. It has now vaccinated 52 percent of its population. But on Sunday, it recorded 2,400 new infections, a quadrupling from a month before.”

 

Geez, do you think had those doctors received a better vaccine they’d be alive today? Do you think had those populations received a better vaccine they’d have lower infections?
 

But perhaps we shouldn’t jump to conclusions.

 

 

[wensiensheng]

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

 

I don’t quite understand this doctors prediction.

 

2k cases per day to 6k cases per day in what, a month. But he thinks Thailand will go from 6k cases a day to 10k cases a day over the course of the next 6 months.

 

that’s a drastic slowdown in the rate of increase. Almost equivalent to the virus putting on the brakes. I wonder why he thinks there will be such a slowing of the current increase?

Edited July 5, 2021 by wensiensheng

[Danderman123]

23 minutes ago, anchadian said:

From the total 6,166 cases that were found in the past 24 hours:

 

- 3,961 via tests at medical facilities

- 2,109 via proactive tests at known clusters

- 84 via proactive in prisons

- 12 imported cases

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1411922765565681664

 

It sure looks like 4,000 hospital admissions is a hard cap. 

[wensiensheng]

21 minutes ago, peter48 said:

There is only one way forward? Thailand urgently needs more of  these vaccinations urgently.  1. Pfizer 2. Moderna 3. AstraZeneca and then roll out quickly to population starting with over 6os first and then come down age ranges to 18yrs old. Medics & People with co-morbidities too would be a priority. This is based on the fact that seniors are most infected by this plague which can for some hit the lungs most by around day 6 of the disease. Many people of course only have a fever, headache, cough for a few days - its what happens by second week which is crucial. 

 

This has been successful in UK, USA, Canada, Germany, Scandinavia, in fact across all Europe.  The China vaccines are mostly not recognised in the West by the regulators.  These countries had much higher death rates than Thailand so maybe there is less testing here. Even in the most advanced cities like London, New York, Paris with large scale ICU facilities you had ambulances  queuing around the block at the worst times of the first and third waves. 

 

Thailand must learn from other advanced nations.

It’s easy to say now. It was easy to say on 7th June. It was easy to say in April.

 

You outline exactly what should be done. But Thailand didn’t do it before, won’t do it now. Frankly, the authorities make themselves look very foolish indeed.

[placeholder]

3 minutes ago, ABCbangkok said:

 

Your defense of the Chinese vaccines is illogical, because we are talking about the efficacy of the vaccines not about the percentage of population vaccinated. 

Here are a quotes from reports (easily found) on how the Chinese vaccines are doing in the field - 

“At least 10 out of 26 Indonesian doctors who have died from Covid-19 this month had been fully vaccinated with Sinovac, prompting health experts to consider whether medics should receive alternative doses to boost immunity.”

“…. several countries that have vaccinated a large proportion of their population and used the Chinese-made Sinovac or Sinopharm vaccines as part of their inoculation campaigns have reported recent outbreaks. These include Mongolia, Seychelles, Bahrain and Chile.“

 

“Mongolia was a beneficiary, jumping at the chance to score millions of Sinopharm shots. The small country quickly rolled out an inoculation program and eased restrictions. It has now vaccinated 52 percent of its population. But on Sunday, it recorded 2,400 new infections, a quadrupling from a month before.”

 

Geez, do you think had those doctors received a better vaccine they’d be alive today? Do you think had those populations received a better vaccine they’d have lower infections?
 

But perhaps we shouldn’t jump to conclusions.

And your quotes would be a lot easier to find and evaluate if you simply followed the rules and provided links for them. What's so difficult about that? I'm not going to report it, but someone might. Why take the chance?

 

 

Once again, you're focusing on the wrong thing. The question to ask is what would have been the number if those doctors hadn't been vaccinated at all?

As I've repeatedly noted, virtually all the other vaccines available are better. That doesn't make Sinovac crappy.

And these are health care workers. The group at the highest risk for contracting Covid.

 

 

[morrobay]

9 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Yes, according to historical asymptomatic information about this virus, it is way over that now.

Could easily be 10,000 reported in a few weeks.

Sure easily over that now. From the 3232 new cases  June 19 to todays total  new cases since June 19 of 78034. That works out to R0= 1.75 So tomorrow ,the 18th day/3day infection interval we have 3232(1.75)^6 =92,832 Then subtract 78034 and that's 14,798 new cases tomorrow.  Of course there are boo coo epidemic variables not considered with this number, but it still shows something.

[Danderman123]

11 minutes ago, ABCbangkok said:

 

Your defense of the Chinese vaccines is illogical, because we are talking about the efficacy of the vaccines not about the percentage of population vaccinated. 

Here are a quotes from reports (easily found) on how the Chinese vaccines are doing in the field - 

“At least 10 out of 26 Indonesian doctors who have died from Covid-19 this month had been fully vaccinated with Sinovac, prompting health experts to consider whether medics should receive alternative doses to boost immunity.”

“…. several countries that have vaccinated a large proportion of their population and used the Chinese-made Sinovac or Sinopharm vaccines as part of their inoculation campaigns have reported recent outbreaks. These include Mongolia, Seychelles, Bahrain and Chile.“

 

“Mongolia was a beneficiary, jumping at the chance to score millions of Sinopharm shots. The small country quickly rolled out an inoculation program and eased restrictions. It has now vaccinated 52 percent of its population. But on Sunday, it recorded 2,400 new infections, a quadrupling from a month before.”

 

Geez, do you think had those doctors received a better vaccine they’d be alive today? Do you think had those populations received a better vaccine they’d have lower infections?
 

But perhaps we shouldn’t jump to conclusions.

 

 

With such a low percent vaccinated, it's hard to blame an outbreak on the vaccine used. And the definition of an outbreak is vague enough to encompass what is happening in the UK. What vaccines do they use there? 

[anchadian]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

With such a low percent vaccinated, it's hard to blame an outbreak on the vaccine used. And the definition of an outbreak is vague enough to encompass what is happening in the UK. What vaccines do they use there? 

The UK has four vaccines approved for use: Pfizer-BioNTech, Oxford-AstraZeneca, Moderna and Janssen; three of which require two doses for maximum protection.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55274833

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Government spokeswoman says, in a televised news briefing, that the tide of new COVID cases has been rising outside of the Bangkok region as well because of the rise of the Delta/India variant of the virus, and called for the public to avoid all non-essential inter-provincial travel.

 

Says Bangkok hospital beds at present are 90% filled.

 

Acknowledges there are and will be vaccine shortages for the general public as the government once again begins to try to prioritize doses for the elderly and those with chronic conditions (but doesn't mention that elderly foreigners thus far have been excluded from that campaign).

 

You mean... all is NOT under control, and we have a publicly acknowledged vaccine shortage?

 

 

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Government spokeswoman Pensom Lertsithichai:

 

"The government is doing its utmost best and everything in its capacity to prevent further infections and fatalities...

 

The government has been aggressively pursuing its national vaccination program... However, with the spread of the Delta variant, the Ministry of Public Health is now focusing on innoculating vulnerable groups as fast as possible.

 

So 70% of the elderly and those who are medically vulnerable...residing in Bangkok metropolitan area will be administered innoculations and vaccinations within 2 weeks from now. While the vaccines to the high risk groups nationwide will be targeted for August.  And the reason is, Bangkok still continues to be the focus of the new Delta strain infections...

 

So, because of these adjustments and because of the overall shortage of supply of vaccines, the CCSA therefore acknowledges that there will be vaccine shortages for other age groups. And we understand that this might cause frustration as well  as confusion to many of you, particularly our foreign audience who are waiting for their vaccine appointments.

 

We'd like to assure you that the government's policy in providing assistance and vaccines for everyone residing in Thailand, everyone who is on Thai soil, will continue....

 

As soon as our vaccine supplies are replenished, we will see that more and more people will receive confirmations for their innoculation appointments."

 

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So yes, the government's policy is to provide vaccines to everyone, regardless of nationality. But they're not saying WHEN. And they're not saying that elderly and medically vulnerable foreign nationals basically are going to be left behind while older Thai nationals are vaccinated first...   Not taking a position on that... Just summarizing the actual situation.

 

 

[anchadian]

Of the 113 monitored clusters in Bangkok, 100 have reported cases in the past 14 days including 36 in worker camps & working sites, 29 at businesses & factories, 21 around markets & shopping centres, 10 at residential areas, 2 at care homes and 2 others.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1411931085651415044

 

[Kinnock]

I wonder when the UK will move Thailand to 'Red'?

 

Dr John - a UK GP Youtuber with a million followers did a special report on Thailand COVID situation last week.

 

(Written in bold font so other people my age can read the 'new' ASEAN font)

[ABCbangkok]

14 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Once again, you're focusing on the wrong thing. The question to ask is what would have been the number if those doctors hadn't been vaccinated at all?

As I've repeatedly noted, virtually all the other vaccines available are better. That doesn't make Sinovac crappy.

And these are health care workers. The group at the highest risk for contracting Covid.

 

 

That’s your question not mine. I posted about the Thai govt choosing something they shouldn’t have chosen, and being unwilling to allow other vaccines in.

 

You’ve been defending the Chinese vaccine, Sinovac.. Rah rah for you that Sinovac isn’t crappy. You are welcome to it. I left Thailand because quite frankly it’s not good enough for me and my family. 

Edited July 5, 2021 by ABCbangkok

[2 is 1]

7 minutes ago, morrobay said:

Sure easily over that now. From the 3232 new cases  June 19 to todays total  new cases since June 19 of 78034. That works out to R0= 1.75 So tomorrow ,the 18th day/3day infection interval we have 3232(1.75)^6 =92,832 Then subtract 78034 and that's 14,798 new cases tomorrow.  Of course there are boo coo epidemic variables not considered with this number, but it still shows something.

You cant pull R0 number from hat like rabbit!Nobody cant count Thailands R0 number. And definetly it cant use like that.

[wensiensheng]

1 hour ago, Cake Monster said:

And yet again we see that the number of people who have received a second dose of Vaccine is just about stagnant at 2.25 Million.

The figure has been around this number for several Days now, which I believe is proof enough , that the Government has  a One shot to fix all policy with Vaccination

One shot of any Vaccine will do nothing to protect the person receiving it, specially if it is Sinovac with its really low efficacy rate of 3 % after just One shot.

More words fail me, except that I feel so sorry for the Thai people .

 

Hmm, you may well be right. But don’t forget that a big mass of vaccinations (below target but still a mass) took place on June 7th, 8th and 9th. Those people aren’t scheduled for their second jab yet. 
 

the sinovaccers should be in a couple of weeks, the AZ’ers, much later. You should see a bigger movement in second jabs in the latter half of this month.

[ABCbangkok]

7 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

With such a low percent vaccinated, it's hard to blame an outbreak on the vaccine used. And the definition of an outbreak is vague enough to encompass what is happening in the UK. What vaccines do they use there? 

They’re using AZ. UK is still opening up. 

[anchadian]

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158123106767050

[Danderman123]

34 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Let me get this right. 6000 new cases. 3000 discharged. Surplus 3000 cases with no bed. You are seeing this as good news? Of course this is one day so the next day 6000 cases, 3000 discharged, 3000 accrues from day before now 6000 surplus cases with no beds etc. Numbers aren't really relevant other than cases are double (or more than double as it is) than that of vacated beds.

I only alluded to good news yesterday in the sense that 3,000 available beds is better than 0 available beds, which was the scuttlebutt yesterday. 

[Danderman123]

10 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Of the 113 monitored clusters in Bangkok, 100 have reported cases in the past 14 days including 36 in worker camps & working sites, 29 at businesses & factories, 21 around markets & shopping centres, 10 at residential areas, 2 at care homes and 2 others.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1411931085651415044

 

That doesn't make sense. 113 monitored clusters have had less than 1 case over the last 2 weeks? 

 

That's an implied positivity rate of close to zero.