US announces Pfizer vaccine donation for Thailand - but no mention of its own nationals

[John Drake]

4 hours ago, Wuvu2 said:

If only the US really knew what it's citizens abroad really think of them....

It's very clear that the State Department and the Biden administration hate American expats. But that's okay, because I hate them right back.

[John Drake]

2 hours ago, Thomas J said:

You are being treated identically to every other U.S. citizen. 

No, we are not. The American citizens at the US Embassy received Pfizer. Why weren't they made to go back to some Walgreens in Chicago?

[Heng]

2 minutes ago, John Drake said:

No, we are not. The American citizens at the US Embassy received Pfizer. Why weren't they made to go back to some Walgreens in Chicago?

Well, they're on the job for one.   The same way US service members don't have to cycle home to get vaccinated either.   

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, Wuvu2 said:

And of course - where the heck is MY vaccine. I'm American, paid taxes, over 60, and getting nothing but total BS from my Embassy.  

MedPark and Phayathai 2 were taking bookings for a couple of weeks and providing vaccination appointments, didn't you register on those?

[John Drake]

2 hours ago, LazySlipper said:

screw Canada and the US... I am really peed at my two countries... neither of which seems to give a hilt for us...

As much irritation as I feel with the Thai government's decision on how to deal with Covid, it doesn't begin to compare to the hatred (yes, hatred!) I have come to feel towards my own country. Sucking up all the vaccine, so much so that it's going to ruin because they can't find people willing to take it back in the US. But they refuse to follow a program as commonsense minded as what China and France did. 

[John Drake]

3 minutes ago, Heng said:

Well, they're on the job for one.   The same way US service members don't have to cycle home to get vaccinated either.   

Lots of citizens are "on the job." After all, the operative criterium people keep citing is that we all chose to come here. Well, guess what, so did the people in the embassy. They chose to work in the foreign service. (BTW, goes for "service members, too. They volunteered, remember?) So why are they so special? Did someone bestow on them feudal privileges not granted to commoners?

[Liverpool Lou]

5 hours ago, Wuvu2 said:

on Biden's first international trip he promised..

That's how liars operate.

[The Hammer2021]

4 hours ago, WineOh said:

Why should America donate anything to Thailand?

 

I thought Thais like everything to be made in Thailand.

 

isn't a jab made in a farang country considered voodoo potion here???

 

I'm confused.

Yes you are.

[PuaSai]

5 hours ago, Wuvu2 said:

Wait a second -  on Biden's first international trip he promised to gift 500 million does worldwide with 80 million delivered by the end of JUNE 2021  (7Million of the June allotment designated for South East Asia).  Those were never delivered right?  How many PR stunts in a row can the US pull without delivering any vaccines?

 

And of course - where the heck is MY vaccine. I'm American, paid taxes, over 60, and getting nothing but total BS from my Embassy.  

Just a reminder:  "Remember Benghazi"...........  They offer only limited citizen services.

[kamahele]

The embassy has already stated they the US government wouldn't be providing vaccines to Americans who have decided to live abroad. No reason to state it every time they donate vaccines or medical supplies to Thailand 

[John Drake]

3 minutes ago, kamahele said:

The embassy has already stated they the US government wouldn't be providing vaccines to Americans who have decided to live abroad. No reason to state it every time they donate vaccines or medical supplies to Thailand 

I will not duck my head and say, "yes, boss," just because the US government/embassy and some other people want the issue to disappear. I will continue to shame them and criticize them every opportunity I get.

[jmccarty]

5 hours ago, Mango Bob said:

How many Americans are in Thailand?  Also is the Thai government going to charge their people for getting the vaccine?

+/- 30k

[jmccarty]

5 hours ago, Wuvu2 said:

Wait a second -  on Biden's first international trip he promised to gift 500 million does worldwide with 80 million delivered by the end of JUNE 2021  (7Million of the June allotment designated for South East Asia).  Those were never delivered right?  How many PR stunts in a row can the US pull without delivering any vaccines?

 

And of course - where the heck is MY vaccine. I'm American, paid taxes, over 60, and getting nothing but total BS from my Embassy.  

I think you are in luck.  Check out the over 60 expat Bang Sue Grand Station thread.  An over 75 friend of mine got his there 2 weeks ago without a hitch. 

 

Link added: 

 

Edited July 21, 2021 by jmccarty

[sucit]

The people who paid for the shots don’t get them. Makes perfect sense. Nothing to see here. Move on

[phetphet]

6 hours ago, LazySlipper said:

God Bless America...

Same as Canada... we are left to our own devises... 

 

The idiom 'clean your own house first' will never apply to these countries...

But they still want your taxes. Even though you might not be living there.

[sqwakvfr]

In the past I used to defend the US Embassy in Bangkok and the Consulate in CM.  Not anymore, especially after the MIchael Heath letter on June 22, 2021.  Mr. Heath, the Charges De Affaire( acting ambassador) indicated we Americans in Thailand do have the option to go back to the US and get vaccinated.  As Gomer Pyle used to say "Shazam, Golly and Surprise", I booked my flight from BKK to LAX.  Thank you Mr. Heath for your recommendation(cue the sarcastic music).  

 

But now I have hit a major roadblock:  Getting to BKK from Chiang Mai when inter-provincial travel is restricted and domestic flights from CNX to BKK are non-existent.  For grins I emailed the embassy and asked how do I get to BKK.  I got a brilliant  reply: "you can go by car".  I replied "no problem, it will only cost me an additional $300 USD".  To me it seems rather odd that the country where my passport is issued from donates millions of doses of Covid 19 Vaccine to Thailand but I have to take on a long and expensive journey at the same time these vaccines are arriving???  I guess truth is stranger than fiction?

 

This time getting out of Thailand might be just as challenging to get back in?  Now I am wondering if I should try and come back after all to this?  Maybe it is no longer worth it?  

Edited July 21, 2021 by sqwakvfr

[PETERTHEEATER]

5 hours ago, SooKee said:

Jeez, how many times is this story going to be repeated over and over over again and presented as news?

Just winding you up in preparation for the photoshoot at the airport as the consignment is unloaded. In attendance there will be the US Ambassador to Thailand and a nut in the Ministry of Health. Please bring your own trumpet.

[brommers]

You come from the land of the free and you are free leave for greener pastures which is what you have done. You dont want socialism but you expect the nanny state to wipe your backsides. I thought that Brits were champion whiners and cry babies but you guys are far worse. Grow up.

[Thomas J]

1 hour ago, John Drake said:

No, we are not. The American citizens at the US Embassy received Pfizer. Why weren't they made to go back to some Walgreens in Chicago?

LOL now my dog could eat the wooden squares from a scrabble board game and leave a sentence in my yard that makes more common sense that what you have just said. 

The American Citizens at the US embassy are assigned to that location.  That is no different than our armed forces that are stationed overseas.  The government selected them to serve in those locations.  I am also guessing that the U.S. provides those it assigns to overseas assignments with health insurance as well.  They certainly provide the military with medical treatment. 

You are being treated absolutely identically to every other American Citizen who did not choose to live overseas.  You are in a position to get your "free vaccine" in the USA at most hospitals, clinics and pharmacies.  The fact that it is inconvenient is the result of "your" decision not the governments.  This is a picture of a cabin in remote Alaska.  Should the U.S. government send a dogsled team with vaccine their because it is "inconvenient" to travel to an area where the U.S. government has vaccine available. 

[John Drake]

1 minute ago, Thomas J said:

LOL now my dog could eat the wooden squares from a scrabble board game and leave a sentence in my yard that makes more common sense that what you have just said. 

The American Citizens at the US embassy are assigned to that location.  That is no different than our armed forces that are stationed overseas.  The government selected them to serve in those locations.  I am also guessing that the U.S. provides those it assigns to overseas assignments with health insurance as well.  They certainly provide the military with medical treatment. 

You are being treated absolutely identically to every other American Citizen who did not choose to live overseas.  You are in a position to get your "free vaccine" in the USA at most hospitals, clinics and pharmacies.  The fact that it is inconvenient is the result of "your" decision not the governments.  This is a picture of a cabin in remote Alaska.  Should the U.S. government send a dogsled team with vaccine their because it is "inconvenient" to travel to an area where the U.S. government has vaccine available. 

Sorry, I'm not a bootlicker like some people.

[CANSIAM]

4 hours ago, LazySlipper said:

 

Well said... and Canada is even worst... we are a floodgate for welfare asylum seekers and5the generation Canadians like me cannot get the time of day... 

Lol my call to the Canadian Embassy months ago was  "follow Government guidelines or keep in touch with your own private hospital" thanks and I hung up.........

Edited July 21, 2021 by CANSIAM

[Thomas J]

Just now, John Drake said:

Sorry, I'm not a bootlicker like some people.

No I would call you more of a ingrate who expects others to make it convenient due to the inconvenience caused by your personal decision.  If you are that concerned, hop on a plane and travel back to the USA and get your free vaccine.  That is no different than if you had a medical condition and wanted the U.S. government to cover you under Medicare.  Consequence of a personal decision.  

 

[Isaan sailor]

I believe the reason the US Embassy Bangkok and the Department of State did not step up for American expats--because they didn't want to create feelings of jealousy from the Thai people.  Now if the Thai Government, benevolently offers a portion of their gifted Pfizer shots to foreigners--we'll most likely accept the offer.

I also believe the reason US Embassy has alerted us to free vaccinations today for over 60 year-old Americans (AstraZeneca, the un-approved vaccine in America)--is to wash their hands of this Pfizer donation debacle.

Edited July 21, 2021 by Isaan sailor

[metisdead]

Some off topic posts trolling about the ads on the forum have been removed. 

[sucit]

Since I do t use any of the roads, or even one service I can think of that I pay for,I realize it’s way to much to ask for them to post a vaccine over here for me for $10

[Isaan sailor]

9 minutes ago, Thomas J said:

No I would call you more of a ingrate who expects others to make it convenient due to the inconvenience caused by your personal decision.  If you are that concerned, hop on a plane and travel back to the USA and get your free vaccine.  That is no different than if you had a medical condition and wanted the U.S. government to cover you under Medicare.  Consequence of a personal decision.  

 

Not so easy to just hop on a plane for America.  Remember the quarantine?  How about Covid Testing prior to flying?  If you don't live near BKK, you could have a very long drive to the airport--domestic flights now shut down.  And to get two free shots of Pfizer or Moderna--you need to wait a few weeks.  If things go belly up here by October, I will take my Thai wife to America for the long stay.

[Thomas J]

14 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

Not so easy to just hop on a plane for America.  Remember the quarantine?  How about Covid Testing prior to flying?  If you don't live near BKK, you could have a very long drive to the airport--domestic flights now shut down.  And to get two free shots of Pfizer or Moderna--you need to wait a few weeks.  If things go belly up here by October, I will take my Thai wife to America for the long stay.

You are correct.  However that is caused by our decision to live overseas.  That is not the fault of the U.S. government.  To somehow suggest that they should "make things convenient" for U.S. citizens to get the vaccine is this  I am entitled mentality that has gripped society.  

I don't like the fact that I can't get the Pfizer vaccine.  However I fully recognize that the difficulty is caused by my decision to live in Thailand.  If I had a heart condition and needed an operation, do I expect that the U.S. government will fly over a medical team to take care of me?  No, if I want to be covered by my USA Medicare I have to fly back to the USA.  Inconvenient, of course.  But there are numerous inconveniences caused by living overseas.   Life is filled with decisions and the consequences for those decisions.  If a person so dislikes the inconvenience of living in Thailand then they should reconsider and move back to the USA.  If they like living here and are willing to tolerate the things not provided back in the USA, then they should just make their own personal accommodations, and not expect the USA government to shield them from the negative aspects of living abroad. 

[rwill]

So Pfizer is $20/dose based on the article statement.  

Sinovac is $30/dose

[chilly07]

Original announcement  said 20pc for foreigners  NOT American  nationals.  This must have  annoyed Thais so it has been  kept quiet.  Guess the Thai 'government '   are offsetting the foreigners  against Myanmar Laos Cambodia Phillipine French and even Wufluland already vaccinated in Thailand 

[wwest5829]

7 hours ago, Wuvu2 said:

Wait a second -  on Biden's first international trip he promised to gift 500 million does worldwide with 80 million delivered by the end of JUNE 2021  (7Million of the June allotment designated for South East Asia).  Those were never delivered right?  How many PR stunts in a row can the US pull without delivering any vaccines?

 

And of course - where the heck is MY vaccine. I'm American, paid taxes, over 60, and getting nothing but total BS from my Embassy.  

Your analysis is astounding ... due to its lack of critical thinking.