webfact Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 By Subhabhong Rarueysong BANGKOK (NNT) - The Thai government has mandated that COVID-19 patients who have never been vaccinated must receive one dose within three months of getting infected. Deputy government spokeswoman Traisuree Traisoranakul said there were doubts about the guidelines for vaccinating people who have been infected with COVID-19. There is a risk of being infected with the delta variant, even for those who had previously been infected with COVID-19. She said the Department of Disease Control (DDC) says that COVID-19 patients who have never been vaccinated, or have not completed the two dose course, are both advised to get one dose of any type of COVID-19 vaccine within 1-3 months of the onset of illness. Meanwhile, infected patients who have had two doses do not need a third. Ms. Traisuree said vaccination will be carried out in accordance with the guidelines set by the Department of Disease Control. Authorities have provided updated information, as COVID-19 is an emerging disease. Their team of doctors and experts analyze new information before publishing guidelines for vaccinating people for their utmost safety. -- © Copyright NNT 2021-09-06 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post timendres Posted September 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 Meanwhile, research out of Israel suggests that natural immunity is 13 times stronger than vaccinated immunity. Something tells me the Big Pharma Overlords are starting to panic... 20 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scrotobike Posted September 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, timendres said: Meanwhile, research out of Israel suggests that natural immunity is 13 times stronger than vaccinated immunity. Something tells me the Big Pharma Overlords are starting to panic... My understanding is.... For sure as all the vaccines do is to stimulate the production of antibodies etc - so if I have had Covid my body will respond to it when I get it again, so why do I need a (kaching there go some $$) vaccine? Some one educate me PLEASE! 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted September 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Scrotobike said: My understanding is.... For sure as all the vaccines do is to stimulate the production of antibodies etc - so if I have had Covid my body will respond to it when I get it again, so why do I need a (kaching there go some $$) vaccine? Some one educate me PLEASE! If you have already had Covid without having serious symptoms, likely you do not. (Perhaps) If you have not had it, you risk it killing you. 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scrotobike Posted September 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 1 minute ago, jacko45k said: If you have already had Covid without having serious symptoms, likely you do not. (Perhaps) If you have not had it, you risk it killing you. Sooo if you have had Covid - why are the Muppets giving a vaccine? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted September 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 Just now, Scrotobike said: Sooo if you have had Covid - why are the Muppets giving a vaccine? Apparently it does improve your antibody count and resistance. Natural immunity does also wane.... a jab might be a better idea than catching it again... Also unsure how a different strain might affect you. 3 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hayduke Posted September 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, webfact said: BANGKOK (NNT) - The Thai government has mandated that COVID-19 patients who have never been vaccinated must receive one dose within three months of getting infected. So….does the Thai government also mandate that all of these people will have open access to vaccination?.....or are they on their own? Edited September 6, 2021 by Hayduke 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TooMuchTime Posted September 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 20 minutes ago, timendres said: Meanwhile, research out of Israel suggests that natural immunity is 13 times stronger than vaccinated immunity. Something tells me the Big Pharma Overlords are starting to panic... Pretty much. I find it odd how trusting of Pharma companies and FDA/CDC people in the US have become. Past 10 years they hated everything about them from pesticides, Monsanto, depression meds, opiods, Pharma execs being in positions of power on FDA/CDC. Now they worship them. Odd. 12 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nurseynutcase Posted September 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, jacko45k said: If you have already had Covid without having serious symptoms, likely you do not. (Perhaps) If you have not had it, you risk it killing you. But then again, it does depend on your age and any other co-morbidities. there is a 99%+ likelihood of making a complete recovery. Recent figures from the MHRA(England), CDC(USA) show high death rates from the mrna therapy - take your pick and decide on what is best for you. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted September 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Nurseynutcase said: But then again, it does depend on your age and any other co-morbidities. there is a 99%+ likelihood of making a complete recovery. Recent figures from the MHRA(England), CDC(USA) show high death rates from the mrna therapy - take your pick and decide on what is best for you. You are using diversion away from the topic..... If you think death rates from vaccinations are in any way numerically comparable to those of Covid itself, you have your head way up in the dark. In one sentence you claim Covid deaths are small, yet next one try to make the miniscule vaccination deaths a big deal... somewhat disingenuous. Edited September 6, 2021 by jacko45k 2 2 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Scrotobike said: My understanding is.... For sure as all the vaccines do is to stimulate the production of antibodies etc - so if I have had Covid my body will respond to it when I get it again, so why do I need a (kaching there go some $$) vaccine? Some one educate me PLEASE! 1+1=2 2+2=4 4+4=8 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Srikcir Posted September 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 Article title: "must receive" vs Article reads: "advised to get" Any wonder unvaccinated are confused? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumbleweed Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Scrotobike said: Some one educate me PLEASE! You can't educate pork 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geistfunke Posted September 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 Never get tested. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted September 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Scrotobike said: Sooo if you have had Covid - why are the Muppets giving a vaccine? Money money money 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Tracy Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Nurseynutcase said: Recent figures from the MHRA(England), CDC(USA) show high death rates from the mrna therapy - take your pick and decide on what is best for you. Define 'high'... How many mi!lions, hundreds of thousands, tens of thousands.....directly attributable to the vaccines themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joinaman Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 4 hours ago, jacko45k said: Apparently it does improve your antibody count and resistance. Natural immunity does also wane.... a jab might be a better idea than catching it again... Also unsure how a different strain might affect you. does this apply to Sinovac too, and for how long ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zzaa09 Posted September 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 5 hours ago, timendres said: Meanwhile, research out of Israel suggests that natural immunity is 13 times stronger than vaccinated immunity. Something tells me the Big Pharma Overlords are starting to panic... The reality is beginning to seep through. Numerous things COVID related they don't want us to know about. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, hotchilli said: Money money money And nothing up their sleeves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 43 minutes ago, Joinaman said: does this apply to Sinovac too, and for how long ? I woulde expect so but have no real knowledge beyond that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trujillo Posted September 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 What "authorities" are the Thai overlords using as information sources? This is a serious question. Is it the USA's CDC? Is it the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control? Is it Bhutan's Royal Centre for Disease Control? Is it the Australian Centre for Disease Control? Or do they just throw darts at a bunch of handwritten Post-its? As far as I can glean, Thailand thinks that natural immunity isn't worth anything 3 months after infection, that requiring a vaccine "passport" in the "dark red zones" is a worthwhile idea for in-person dining when only about 11% of the entire population of the country has had two injections, where Chiang Mai Province (pop. 1.76 million) is still designated a "red zone" when, for example, yesterday there were a staggering 14 "cases" (read: positive tests) in the entire province, the Sunday walking street (held outside, remarkably) is still closed while all the shopping mall outdoor markets are open as usual, where you can buy beer at any 7-Eleven but not in a pub, and now this? When they look, say, at a place like Arizona State in the US, and see that they abandoned all covid restrictions (that means masks, too) in March of this year and see that yesterday they had about 3,000 "cases" and one death...do they think, "Oh, that's impossible. No way that could be true without total masking mandates and vaccine passports and "zones" and restrictions...that must be fake news! We know how to handle this, stand back and let us work!" This would be a hilarious sit-com were it not actually something we all have to suffer. ------------------------------------------------------------ -- When wearing a mask fogs up your glasses; what exactly do you think is happening? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Trujillo said: When they look, say, at a place like Arizona State in the US, and see that they abandoned all covid restrictions (that means masks, too) in March of this year and see that yesterday they had about 3,000 "cases" and one death...do they think, "Oh, that's impossible. No way that could be true without total masking mandates and vaccine passports and "zones" and restrictions...that must be fake news! We know how to handle this, stand back and let us work!" This would be a hilarious sit-com were it not actually something we all have to suffer. ------------------------------------------------------------ -- When wearing a mask fogs up your glasses; what exactly do you think is happening? You are using weekend data for Arizona. In reality, cases and deaths are ramping up in Arizona, and you won't be talking about it much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 8 hours ago, Scrotobike said: My understanding is.... For sure as all the vaccines do is to stimulate the production of antibodies etc - so if I have had Covid my body will respond to it when I get it again, so why do I need a (kaching there go some $$) vaccine? Some one educate me PLEASE! Vaccines direct the body's immune system to deal with the SARS2 spike protein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 8 hours ago, timendres said: Meanwhile, research out of Israel suggests that natural immunity is 13 times stronger than vaccinated immunity. Something tells me the Big Pharma Overlords are starting to panic... You are relying on a single study. I would hope by now that you would have learned not to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) If you have recovered from the real virus, you don't need to be vaccinated with the dead virus (Sinovac) or fake virus (Astrazeneca, Pfizer). It's your body that fights the virus and not the vaccine. It's medical school 101 However, it's good to have a booster shot against the delta variant if you didn't recover from the delta variant but earlier variants. But no current vaccines specifically target delta variant yet. Edited September 6, 2021 by EricTh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeijoshinCool Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 8 hours ago, Scrotobike said: Sooo if you have had Covid - why are the Muppets giving a vaccine? . Apparently they have a massive stockpile.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeijoshinCool Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 8 hours ago, TooMuchTime said: I find it odd how trusting of Pharma companies and FDA/CDC people in the US have become. . Conditioning, with a bombardment of images of beautiful, successful people.... 1 out of 5 ads on much of American TV are for pharmaceuticals. On evening news, almost every ad. Same with glossy magazines. Page after page of feel good ads. Now they even have a drug for ugly women with bulging eyes. (Ask your doctor if it's right for you, because he won't remember unless you bring it up.) Exercise, nah. Eat right, no need. Just give me a pill.... DISCLAIMER: I hate TV. But I'm in the States for a few months, staying in a motel. God help me..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post jak2002003 Posted September 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 8 hours ago, jacko45k said: You are using diversion away from the topic..... If you think death rates from vaccinations are in any way numerically comparable to those of Covid itself, you have your head way up in the dark. In one sentence you claim Covid deaths are small, yet next one try to make the miniscule vaccination deaths a big deal... somewhat disingenuous. Tell that to the families of healthy people who died after getting the vaccine. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 40 minutes ago, jak2002003 said: Tell that to the families of healthy people who died after getting the vaccine. Nice cheap shot. But if you want to go that route, what are you going to tell the families of the 99 percent of those who died from covid? Namely, the unvaccinated? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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